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Polygamists see open door for acceptance
WorldNetDaily.com ^ | Friday, July 4, 2003 | Ron Strom

Posted on 07/04/2003 12:12:36 AM PDT by JohnHuang2

"Polygamy is the next civil-rights battle."

That's the new battle cry of proponents of "Christian polygamy" who say their lifestyle is one step closer to being accepted after the Supreme Court's controversial decision last week invalidating state sodomy laws.

A website set up for media to get information about the pro-polygamy movement enthusiastically hails the Lawrence v. Texas decision, quoting from the majority opinion that Americans now have "... the full right to engage in private conduct without government intervention."

As WorldNetDaily reported, critics of the decision believe the court has usurped the role of lawmakers, establishing a far-reaching precedent that threatens any law based on moral choices, including incest and polygamy.

Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia includes examples of non-traditional marriages in his dissenting opinion, saying laws against the practice are now open to review.

Scalia talks of "state laws against bigamy, same-sex marriage, adult incest, prostitution, masturbation, adultery, fornication, bestiality and obscenity," saying "every single one of these laws is called into question by [the Lawrence] decision."

Said the polygamy website: "Obviously, this [decision] means enormous ramifications for the civil rights of adult, freely-consenting, marriage-committed polygamists."

The site links to a much more extensive site called TruthBearer.org, a page dedicated to promoting "Christian polygamy."

It's introductory page states, "As preached here at this ministry, Christian polygamy is only about life-long-committed (hence, NONpromiscuous), consensual, NONabusive, loving Christian marriage. The only educational matter here is that this is about men ever-growing in other-centered, ministerial, giving, selfless love in marriage to more than one woman (as Christ so selflessly and givingly loves the Churches)."

The organizers say their aim is not to legalize polygamy, but merely to decriminalize it. They don't believe government has any role whatsoever in regulating marriage.

A link to biblicalpolygamy.com presents what its creators claim are reasons that "polygamy really is biblical."

Another site on "Christian polygamy" (which appears to have been created by those who established TruthBearer.org) states:

"Only a few short years ago, the mere suggestion of putting the words 'Christian' and 'polygamy' beside each other as one term would have been laughed at. It would have been called a 'contradiction in terms' and an 'oxymoron.'

"But no one is laughing anymore.

"After much patient prayer, love, and work by committed Christ-centered, Spirit-led, Scripture-believing evangelical conservative Christians, from all kinds of different denominational backgrounds, the Truth is being believed and spread to others! Christian polygamy has become a reality and is now being taken very seriously in a number of spheres of influence."

The Rev. Jerry Falwell, WorldNetDaily columnist and nationally known Christian minister, spoke strongly against the practice of having multiple wives, telling WND: "Christian polygamy is an oxymoron." Falwell condemned the Lawrence ruling, saying it opened the door to "bestiality, pedophilia, even drug use" in the privacy of one's home.

TruthBearer.org, based in Old Orchard Beach, Maine, was founded by Mark Henkel in 1994.

"You are speaking to a diehard constitutional conservative," Henkel told WorldNetDaily, saying his support for the Lawrence v. Texas decision and polygamy is in line with the framers of the Constitution.

"My fellow conservatives are making a terrible mistake" by condemning the ruling, he said. "They are reacting like knee-jerk liberals."

Henkel compared marriage to Social Security, citing some conservatives' desire to privatize the government retirement program.

"Why not privatize marriage?" he asked rhetorically. "Why is big government a part of marriage?"

Henkel says marriage in the Bible is never linked to government and that today, the feds should not be able to dictate to Americans: "You're only allowed one wife."

Christians who believe the state should regulate marriage, he says, "are trusting in the false god of socialist government."

Referring to the sodomy case, Henkel told WND: "Lawrence v. Texas has kicked open a whole new door for us."

He says the ruling effectively voided every anti-polygamy law on the books, assuring that "whatever consenting adults choose to do" is permissible.

TruthBearer.org's strategy, says Henkel, is to persuade "conservative, Bible-believing Christians" of the appropriateness and superiority of polygamy. When they are won over, Henkel says the liberal "tolerance-oriented" people will then come into line.

While Henkel uses the polygamy of biblical patriarchs as part of his defense of the practice, Falwell says those Old Testament men were sinning by taking multiple wives.

"The Bible very clearly condemns Christian polygamy," he said. "[The Old Testament patriarchs] all did it in defiance of the Word of God. … God's plan was Adam and Eve – not Adam and Steve, and not Adam and several Eves."

Henkel's movement is clear to point out that its philosophy is not based on historic Mormon polygamy: "Christian polygamy is not Mormon polygamy. The two have two distinctly separate foundational reasons and two distinctly separate histories. They draw no basis from each other."


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To: breakem
follow the logic of lawrence. Consenting adults. Children are not adults. Animals are property.

It is an argument demonstrating absurdity with absurdity.

We adopt the Federal Marriage Amendment and everone goes home happy. Marriage is protected and the sodomites get to have fun with hampsters.
121 posted on 07/05/2003 12:34:18 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: Grig
"Yeah... and the LDS organization USED TO forbid BLACKS from priesthood, but has changed to suit the social mores."

Again you show how you love to attibute motives the same way the liberal media does to smear conservatives.
 
OK......

 
OFFICIAL DECLARATION—2

To Whom It May Concern:

On September 30, 1978, at the 148th Semiannual General Conference of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, the following was presented by President N. Eldon Tanner, First Counselor in the First Presidency of the Church:

In early June of this year, the First Presidency announced that a revelation had been received by President Spencer W. Kimball extending priesthood and temple blessings to all worthy male members of the Church. President Kimball has asked that I advise the conference that after he had received this revelation, which came to him after extended meditation and prayer in the sacred rooms of the holy temple, he presented it to his counselors, who accepted it and approved it. It was then presented to the Quorum of the Twelve Apostles, who unanimously approved it, and was subsequently presented to all other General Authorities, who likewise approved it unanimously.

President Kimball has asked that I now read this letter:

June 8, 1978
To all general and local priesthood officers of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints throughout the world:

Dear Brethren:

As we have witnessed the expansion of the work of the Lord over the earth, we have been grateful that people of many nations have responded to the message of the restored gospel, and have joined the Church in ever-increasing numbers. This, in turn, has inspired us with a desire to extend to every worthy member of the Church all of the privileges and blessings which the gospel affords.

Aware of the promises made by the prophets and presidents of the Church who have preceded us that at some time, in God’s eternal plan, all of our brethren who are worthy may receive the priesthood, and witnessing the faithfulness of those from whom the priesthood has been withheld, we have pleaded long and earnestly in behalf of these, our faithful brethren, spending many hours in the Upper Room of the Temple supplicating the Lord for divine guidance.

He has heard our prayers, and by revelation has confirmed that the long-promised day has come when every faithful, worthy man in the Church may receive the holy priesthood, with power to exercise its divine authority, and enjoy with his loved ones every blessing that flows therefrom, including the blessings of the temple. Accordingly, all worthy male members of the Church may be ordained to the priesthood without regard for race or color. Priesthood leaders are instructed to follow the policy of carefully interviewing all candidates for ordination to either the Aaronic or the Melchizedek Priesthood to insure that they meet the established standards for worthiness.

We declare with soberness that the Lord has now made known his will for the blessing of all his children throughout the earth who will hearken to the voice of his authorized servants, and prepare themselves to receive every blessing of the gospel.

Sincerely yours,

SPENCER W. KIMBALL
N. ELDON TANNER
MARION G. ROMNEY

The First Presidency

Recognizing Spencer W. Kimball as the prophet, seer, and revelator, and president of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, it is proposed that we as a constituent assembly accept this revelation as the word and will of the Lord. All in favor please signify by raising your right hand. Any opposed by the same sign.

The vote to sustain the foregoing motion was unanimous in the affirmative.

Salt Lake City, Utah, September 30, 1978.



a revelation had been received............

They just don't get 'em like in the Good Ol' Days: Thus sayeth the LORD!

 

122 posted on 07/05/2003 12:35:03 PM PDT by Elsie ("Don't believe every prophecy you hear" -- The Bible)
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To: Elsie
Elsie wrote:

"Squeal like a piggy!"

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SICK!

LOL!

Tia

123 posted on 07/05/2003 1:57:42 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: Elsie
No, it's only that others have told me that, and they live in one of the two towns. And, regardless of your sarcasm, the polygs are not Mormons nor am I.
124 posted on 07/05/2003 3:37:22 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus (Adieu a la France!)
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To: Elsie
I think today they get them through the Angel Mozilla.
125 posted on 07/05/2003 5:04:08 PM PDT by drstevej
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To: JohnHuang2
Well you know what this means?

Disney will have to change it's insurance policies. Just wait until 150 gay guys say they are all married to each other and all try to get in on the health insurance as domestic partners.
126 posted on 07/05/2003 5:09:38 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Paulus Invictus
No, it's only that others have told me that, and they live in one of the two towns. And, regardless of your sarcasm, the polygs are not Mormons nor am I.

They believe they are the only true Mormons as they are living true to their doctrine. Yes polygamy is still a doctrine of the LDS it is only suspended not revoked.

The polys live in and among the non poly LDS and are rarely reported because their is a double mind on this. It is still a doctrine of the church that there will be polygamy in the celestial kingdom and it just might become a observed doctrine at some point.

127 posted on 07/05/2003 5:09:50 PM PDT by RnMomof7
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To: RnMomof7; drstevej; P-Marlowe
Actually the Mormons suspended the "practice" (of polygamy) to get statehood for their little thocracy. They turn a blind eye to polygamists unless the polygamist becomes vocal. The Mormon polygamists know the doctrines of their faith far better than the average Mormon. So who is correct per the ever changing doctrine of Mormonism? Stay tuned folks!
129 posted on 07/05/2003 5:30:58 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: JohnHuang2
I think the best way to kill the polygamy movement is to just let them have what they want for a while. The law should never be used to blockade a man's search for common sense.
130 posted on 07/05/2003 5:37:17 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: CARepubGal
Let's be careful. The truth may hurt some folks' feelings. And we can't have that.
131 posted on 07/05/2003 5:39:28 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
Oh heaven forbid sensitive feeling may be hurted.... </ sarcasm>
132 posted on 07/05/2003 6:00:04 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
Too many proxy baptisms creates sensitive feelings.
133 posted on 07/05/2003 6:03:41 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: Wrigley
LOL! I thought it was the burning bosoms that caused that (or is that heartburn)?
134 posted on 07/05/2003 6:08:37 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: CARepubGal
It all works in combination. I'd like to think there is a balance that would not cause sensitive feelings. But I'm probably wrong.
135 posted on 07/05/2003 6:19:53 PM PDT by Wrigley
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To: longtermmemmory
I started by saying homosexuals having sex does not logically follow that beastiality will come next. You jumped into the mix to say that beastiality with your pets is already legal or a right because they are your property. Either logic beastiality does not result. Kewl, we came to the same conclusion.
136 posted on 07/05/2003 6:26:55 PM PDT by breakem
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To: Wrigley
I don't know the formula for that. I think you might be right actually!
137 posted on 07/05/2003 6:29:19 PM PDT by CARepubGal
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To: breakem
actually as long as you are in the privacy of your bedroom, what you do with your property is NOW LEGAL. Beastiality is now legal. Poor hampsters....
138 posted on 07/05/2003 7:07:32 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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To: DannyTN
Well you know what this means?

Disney will have to change it's insurance policies. Just wait until 150 gay guys say they are all married to each other and all try to get in on the health insurance as domestic partners.
** * * * *** ***

Are you listening Big Business? Stock holders? Walmart? Silicon Valley? Wall Street? Union Pension Funds?


Imagine the survivor benefit claims.....



Time for the FMA.
140 posted on 07/05/2003 7:15:25 PM PDT by longtermmemmory (Vote!)
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