Barbaric Islam vs. Aryans (July 9 Protests)

Iranian ^ | 7/4/03 | Amil Imani

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[FairOpinion]

"So, I beseech you to come out on July 9th, 2003, in front of the Iranian consulates or the embassies of the Islamic Republic, in your respective countries, in solidarity with the people of Iran. "

The Iranian people held candle light vigils in support and sympathy of the US after 9-11. I think now that they need our support, we should show our solidarity with the Iranian people who are trying to get rid of the shakles of extremist Islam, which is a threat to us too.

[Becki]

The Iranian people held candle light vigils in support and sympathy of the US after 9-11. I think now that they need our support, we should show our solidarity with the Iranian people who are trying to get rid of the shakles of extremist Islam, which is a threat to us too.

Most **excellent** idea. I have been praying daily for the Iranians. We can also do something more constructive. How long will the media ignore Iran if we have vigils like the Support the Troops showings?

Becki

[Black Agnes]

Drat. I thought this was a protest/counter protest between Islamics and the Aryan Nation (the wackos, not Iran).

[FairOpinion]

I think something got lost in translation, that's how the "Aryans" got in there.

I think they meant the "crazy, evil, extremists Muslim Mullah" vs. normal Iranian people.

[freedom44]

Yeah it's often confusing.

What's meant by Aryan here is pre-Invasions of Persian Empire of Iran. King Cyrus was King of King--King of Aryans and praised in the Bible 22 times --mentioned as one of God's people and was the person who freed the Jews.
In fact, Iran literally means 'Land of the Aryans'.

Reza Khan--The First Pahlavi Shah remained the country from Persia to Iran to emphasize Iran's nationalism and mistrust and distance from Arabs and Arabic culture.

It's unfortunate that Hitler the deceptive beast destroyed everything the meaning originally stood for.
He destroyed that as he did everything else in the world.

[Migraine]

unparalleled poets, such as Rumi, Ferdowsi and Hafez

Yeah, right. Sorry, they somehow didn't make my short list.
Otherwise, this is a pretty good article.

[freedom44]

Omar Khayyam doesn't make your shortlist of poetry?

If he doesn't make your shortlist of Poets then you're missing out.. he's an exceptional poet of Persian history.

[truth_seeker]

"Similarly, people's liberty and freedom were not given to them simply because some ruler felt sorry for the masses. They were secured with many bloody revolutions, an inch at the time. That's how most countries have achieved their liberty and freedom. "

The Iranians that wish freedom must be ready to shed blood.

Maybe more than just a little, too. They need to be willing to shed as much as it takes.

The critical question: Are they, or will they be?

The facts in the region would argue that the cultures and religion do NOT poise them well, for the task at hand.

Will they pay the price of freedom, or wilt before yet another tyranical regime?

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[Andy from Beaverton]

It really drives me nuts when people call Iranians Arabs.

Ary·an adj.

Word History: It is one of the ironies of history that Aryan, a word nowadays referring to the blond-haired, blue-eyed physical ideal of Nazi Germany, originally referred to a people who looked vastly different. Its history starts with the ancient Indo-Iranians, Indo-European peoples who inhabited parts of what are now Iran, Afghanistan, and India. Their tribal self-designation was a word reconstructed as *arya- or *rya-. The first of these is the form found in Iranian, as ultimately in the name of Iran itself (from Middle Persian rn (ahr), “(Land) of the Iranians,” from the genitive plural of r, “Iranian”). The variant *rya- is found unchanged in Sanskrit, where it referred to the upper crust of ancient Indian society. These words became known to European scholars in the 18th century. The shifting of meaning that eventually led to the present-day sense started in the 1830s, when Friedrich Schlegel, a German scholar who was an important early Indo-Europeanist, came up with a theory that linked the Indo-Iranian words with the German word Ehre, “honor,” and older Germanic names containing the element ario-, such as the Swiss warrior Ariovistus who was written about by Julius Caesar. Schlegel theorized that far from being just a designation of the Indo-Iranians, the word *arya- had in fact been what the Indo-Europeans called themselves, meaning something like “the honorable people.” (This theory has since been called into question.) Thus “Aryan” came to be synonymous with “Indo-European,” and in this sense entered the general scholarly consciousness of the day. Not much later, it was proposed that the original homeland of the Indo-Europeans had been in northern Europe. From this theory, it was but a small leap to think of the Aryans as having had a northern European physiotype. While these theories were playing themselves out, certain anti-Semitic scholars in Germany took to viewing the Jews in Germany as the main non-Aryan people because of their Semitic roots; a distinction thus arose in their minds between Jews and the “true Aryan” Germans, a distinction that later furnished unfortunate fodder for the racial theories of the Nazis.

[illumini]

Thank you for your post on origins of the term "Aryan".

[Becki]

It's unfortunate that Hitler the deceptive beast destroyed everything the meaning originally stood for.

It's what evil does. Words, symbols, constitutions....

Becki

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