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Saudi leaders agonize: Where did Wahabism go wrong?
WORLD TRIBUNE.COM ^ | July 3, 2003 | unknown

Posted on 07/03/2003 12:11:39 PM PDT by joesnuffy

Saudi leaders agonize: Where did Wahabism go wrong?

SPECIAL TO WORLD TRIBUNE.COM Thursday, July 3, 2003

ABU DHABI — Saudi leaders are planning to revise the ruling Wahabi ideology said to have spawned Al Qaida and related insurgency movements.

On Tuesday, Saudi Interior Minister Prince Nayef Bin Abdul Aziz cited what he termed extremist ideas among young Saudis for the emergence of the Al Qaida network in the kingdom. Prince Nayef said these ideas have deviated from mainstream Islam and led to the attacks in Saudi Arabia, Middle East Newsline reported.

"Why are these things happenings?" Prince Nayef told the Shura Council on Tuesday. "What are the motives behind them? We need to ask: Did the source of this ideology come from this land or was it imported from outside?

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Was it the result of fanatical ideas from people who have been brainwashed? Or is it a combination of factors, inside and out? But above all, how powerful is this ideology and how widespread is it?"

"They blame us for being Wahabis," Saudi Defense Minister Prince Sultan Bin Abdul Aziz told military commanders on Tuesday. "Everybody knows who was Mohammed Bin Abdul Wahab. He was a worldly man who studied Islamic culture in India, Pakistan and Egypt."

Nayef said the kingdom must focus on the beliefs and behavior of young Saudis. He said a government priority is to return these youngsters to what he termed the straight path of the Muslim nation.

"We have witnessed the criminal acts of some of our youth, who are citizens of this country," Nayef said. "They have killed people, destroyed property and terrorized families. If a person does something wrong and is convinced it is right, then we have to look at the root causes."

Saudi leaders said Al Qaida and related insurgency groups have distorted Wahabi beliefs and focused only on jihad. They said this has hurt both the domestic and foreign interests of the kingdom.

Western diplomatic sources said the Saudi royal family have discussed the prospect of removing elements of Wahabi doctrine taught in mosques and schools around the kingdom. They said Saudi security and intelligence agencies have concluded that Wahabi teachings were exploited to launch insurgency operations against the kingdom.

So far, up to 1,000 Saudi clerics regarded as being linked to Al Qaida have been either dismissed or restricted in their activities, the sources said. They said Riyad has also drafted regulations that would restrict the references to jihad, or holy war, in radio and television broadcasts.

Saudi officials, who have not denied the report, said at least 124 people were arrested in the kingdom since the May 12 suicide strikes by Al Qaida in Riyad. The suicide bombings against Western compounds killed 35 people, eight of them Americans.

Many of those arrested, the officials said, were minors who had been recruited by Al Qaida. They said in many cases the parents were either uninformed or pressured into allowing their children to help carry weapons or relay messages within the Al Qaida network.

Nayef said the recent crackdown of Al Qaida suspects included many foreign nationals. He said many of the suspects were under age 25 and appeared to have been brainwashed.

Saudi Arabia has also bolstered its security and intelligence apparatus. King Fahd appointed Prince Faisal Ibn Abdullah Bin Mohammed Al Saud as deputy national intelligence chief. The Saudi Royal Court said in a statement that Al Saud will be responsible to Prince Nawaf, appointed chief of domestic intelligence in August 2001.


TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: saudiarabia; saudiworldview; snowjob; wahabism; whatwouldmohammeddo

1 posted on 07/03/2003 12:11:40 PM PDT by joesnuffy
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To: joesnuffy
Wahabism went wrong, oh, about five seconds after being invented.

}:-)4
2 posted on 07/03/2003 12:16:17 PM PDT by Moose4 (I'm feeling one of THOSE days coming on...)
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To: joesnuffy
what did the Saudis think the young were learning at those infamous madrassas financed by them?
3 posted on 07/03/2003 12:16:31 PM PDT by cajungirl (no)
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To: joesnuffy
German leaders ask - when did nazism go wrong.
4 posted on 07/03/2003 12:21:44 PM PDT by stop_fascism
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To: Moose4
Wahabism went wrong, oh, about five seconds after being invented.

I think it was long before that. Interesting that if you yank the financial chain, the perps start asking where they went wrong. Even more interesting if Iraq's oil goes online in a big way.

5 posted on 07/03/2003 12:24:36 PM PDT by js1138
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To: joesnuffy
Gee, I dunno - could it have anything to do with teaching children to hate from the time they are born? /sarcasm
6 posted on 07/03/2003 12:24:49 PM PDT by Let's Roll (And those that cried Appease! Appease! are hanged by those they tried to please!")
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To: Moose4
You can't preach intolerance, death to everyone who doesn't strictly adhere to your rules and edicts; you can't finance it... teach it... preach it... publish it... appease it... and give in to time and time again; you can't make it the religion of the land and set official government policy to answer to it; You can't use it to counteract the threat of the Hashemites, Nasserism, and the Mullahs of Iran and then question where it went wrong.

Wahhabbism hasn't changed one iota since Abd al Wahhab decided that he and he alone understood the mind of the Prophet.

The Saudi's agony is for show. They bred, fed, and empowered this monster. They've always kept it as a little pet and unleashed it to protect themselves from "outside" threats.

7 posted on 07/03/2003 12:25:06 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: joesnuffy
LOL, this is like Lenin asking 'Where did communism go wrong???'

How amusing.
8 posted on 07/03/2003 12:25:54 PM PDT by Monty22
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To: cajungirl
methinks we should get our hip waders, it's getting a little deep in here.....
9 posted on 07/03/2003 12:27:15 PM PDT by richardtavor (Pray for the peace of Jerusalem in the name of the G-d of Jacob)
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To: richardtavor
It is definitely too late to save the shoes.
10 posted on 07/03/2003 2:40:43 PM PDT by Whispering Smith
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To: joesnuffy
Saudi leaders agonize: Where did Wahabism go wrong?

Not enough time or bandwidth to even scratch the surface.
Maybe it was when they called all other Muslims apostates and heretics.
11 posted on 07/03/2003 3:45:26 PM PDT by Valin (Humor is just another defense against the universe.)
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To: joesnuffy
" If a person does something wrong and is convinced it is right, then we have to look at the root causes."

Did Mohammed pass the test of being a prophet laid down by Moses some 2700 years before Mohammed ever showed up? No

Does the Koran contradict the prior scriptures of the Old and New Testament. Yes

And there we have the root causes.

12 posted on 07/03/2003 3:50:47 PM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: carton253
I think you are right

Fanatics of ANY flavor , whether religous or political, scare the living h*ll out of me, because left long enough, this is the way it leads.

Every time

Tia

13 posted on 07/03/2003 5:48:16 PM PDT by tiamat ("Just a Bronze-Age Gal, Trapped in a Techno World!")
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To: joesnuffy
Wahabbism went wrong with Mohammed.


14 posted on 07/03/2003 5:51:04 PM PDT by Sabertooth
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