Posted on 07/02/2003 4:56:13 PM PDT by SamAdams76
And the thin people who have left a portion of salad with blue cheese dressing, asparagus and juicy steak on their plate are on Atkins. They may have tried endlessly to satiate themselves at the salad bar in their fat days, but thank goodness now they know better.
It is my understanding that all the "straight" hard liquor has zero carbs - bourbon, scotch, gin, vodka, rum, etc. Wine is next on the list, with a 4 oz. glass having around 4 grams. Beer is the worst, containing around 13-15 grams per 12-oz. serving.
Since the liquor has been distilled, the alcohol has been separated from any remaining unfermentable sugars. With wine and beer, the unfermentables stay in the final products, thus leaving the carbs in.
So, bottom's up with that glass of Maker's Mark on the rocks!
Please explain how the Eskimos were able to survive (before they adopted a Westernized diet).
Sorry - if you look at the Atkins on-line carb counter, the following contain zero carbs:
Bourbon
Brandy
Gin
Rum
Tequila
Vodka
Whiskey
Calories, yes. Carbs, no.
A few data point does not equal a close relationship between national average weight and national average high fructose corn syrup consumption. Actual detailed data would have shown that weight is going up in both corn syrup countries like the US and in sugar countries like most of Europe.
Also, empirically, here's something else you or anyone could do if you haven't already is check the ingredients on the packages in your pantry or at the supermarket. You will find High Fructose Corn Syrup in products that you would never think it needed to be in.
Yes, but in Europe the same products contain sugar, and diet soda, despite the lack of high fructose corn syrup, doesn't work to keep people thin. One way or another, most of this stuff has been sweetened for 50 years, just as so many of us have been TV watching couch potatoes for the past 50 years, but only in the past 15 is one seeing so many overweight kids.
I probably should not post these kinds of threads any more because I am just too negative on these issues. It seems that for most people, the idea that diet is a key factor in the health of well-fed people is simply immune to contrary evidence. Even those who believe in evolution seem unwilling to admit that people are constructed so as to achieve their three score and ten on a wide varieties of diets. Could it be that humanity is wired, in the brain, to believe that you are what you eat despite all contrary evidence, and I'm simply missing that gene?
This is a good point in that the Eskimos did seem to do well (when not starving) on an quite limited diet 100% meat diet. However, I don't think they ever lived a long as we do. And a vegetarian diet will result in approximately the same life expectancy as an Eskimo diet, everything else roughly equal. What does this tell us about the diet and heath thesis?
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Yes, but people obviously did not develop evolutionarily to survive all the additives found in today's diet - because they were not exposed to them until the last couple of generations. If you don't believe in garbage in, garbage out, do you also see no relation between excessive alcohol consumption and ruined livers or tobacco and emphysema and lung cancer. I believe there is pretty detailed research on those issues - especially tobacco.
Or you can just look at a family and see that all 4 grandparents smoked and then all 4 died of lung cancer or emphysema. And while we all have to die of something - why not just old age in our sleep or even a heart attack instead of being tethered to an oxygen tank for the last decade of ones life?
rumor has it that he did "Battlefield Earth" without any makeup...
Agreed. There is no comparison between the high quality of research on the life expectancy effects of tobacco and the low quality of diet and health reseach. The long version of what I think is in the book "The Rise and Fall of Modern Medicine" by James LeFanu of the London Telegraph.
Thursday afternoon I was looking out the window and saw two female small cardinals dipping their beaks and sitting on the ledge, pretty as you please.
They've been back three times now; never saw such a thing.
They've been back three times now; never saw such a thing.
The end days must be upon us.
I skipped over this sentence when I first replied, but, back from fireworks, it now catches my eye. Of course, old age is not a cause of death, but rather a facilitator of other causes. I do think there may be money to be made in a book titled "The Die in Your Sleep Diet." Of course, no one this side of the rightly imprisoned Dr. Kevorkian has a clue how to achieve this widely desired result, but that wouldn't stop someone from writing the book.
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