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To: DoughtyOne
Your problem is that it's a requirement that anybody who actually likes Bush come on FR and declare everything they disagree with him about, day after day.

I have said a thousand times I don't agree with everything he does -- but I never expected him to do everything single thing I wanted him to do.

Evidently you all did; if you had paid attention, you would have known he wasn't an extreme right wing conservative like you guys wish he would be -- and now you'll all up in arms because he doesn't do what "your guy" would do IF he could get elected, which, of course IS your problem -- you have no candidate.

I will say again that George W. Bush is NOT just the president of the conservative wing of the GOP, he's the president of ALL the people now.

And I most certainly do remember your hoping that Bush would lose in 2000.
42 posted on 07/01/2003 4:54:09 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Howlin
Your problem is that it's a requirement that anybody who actually likes Bush come on FR and declare everything they disagree with him about, day after day.

Howlin, I believe you meant:
Your problem is that it's not a requirement that anybody who actually dislikes Bush come on FR and declare everything they disagree with him about, day after day.
So I'll respond to that.

Howlin, I don't think it's a good idea to come on the forum and dump on Bush every day.  But on the other hand I'm not going to dump on someone for continuing to say the truth even if I don't like it.  If it's the truth, it's the truth.  I would avoid this person if I disagreed with him.  I stay off many of the Bush threads for this very reason, because I don't agree with you folks all the time, and I think it best to avoid scrapping.  Here is a thread that you disagree with.  Perhaps you could implement the same type of policy.  I don't think you're about to, but I think you do appreciate me staying off the 'praise Bush' threads and I don't mind.

I have said a thousand times I don't agree with everything he does -- but I never expected him to do everything single thing I wanted him to do.

Do you really think that we expect Bush to do everything our way?  I don't criticize him for things that aren't significant.  I take him to task on immigration, Israel and now the Medicare Medicine proposal.  I have criticized a few other things on occassion, but I don't come here every day to damn Bush.

Evidently you all did; if you had paid attention, you would have known he wasn't an extreme right wing conservative like you guys wish he would be -- and now you'll all up in arms because he doesn't do what "your guy" would do IF he could get elected, which, of course IS your problem -- you have no candidate. 

Howlin raising the red haring "EXTREME RIGHT WING CONSERVATIVE" ploy isn't going to work with me.  The issues I have touched on here are not extreme right wing issues by any stretch of the imagination.  The issue with Rush on this thread is not one of EXTREMISM and I believe you realize that.

I will say again that George W. Bush is NOT just the president of the conservative wing of the GOP, he's the president of ALL the people now. 

Yes that's right.  He is the President of all the people, so why would you say I have no candidate and that is my problem?  As long as Bush is the President he is the person whose actions I will address.  The same went for Clinton.  Did you think that because I voted for Bush Sr. and Dole I couldn't address the problems with Clinton?  Did you refrain from talking about Clinton's foibles while he was President?

And I most certainly do remember your hoping that Bush would lose in 2000.

Despite what your reference says there in the fine print, this is not only uncalled for, but not exactly accurate either.  We have already touched on the reason why it's appropriate for me to address political issues and Bush's positions on them.  So even if your short statement was entirely factual, what difference would it make?

I supported a different candidate.  Well escuse me for hoping he would win instead of Bush.  What has that to do with my right to address issues nearly three years after the campaign?

You stated that I hoped Bush would lose.  That implies against all comers.  It's a blanket unqualified statement.  For the record, after election day I organized rallies in Los Angeles that supported Bush's candidacy and installation as President.

We were discussing the Rush article and TBLSHOW's right to post it.  Would you care to return to that issue?

47 posted on 07/01/2003 5:30:16 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: Howlin
Absolutely correct, Bush must represent all the people. There is a need for medicare; I expect there will be privatization. I don't always approve of Bush's plans, but I would not vote for a Democrat. National Security alone is a good reason to vote for President Bush. Also, does anyone believe President Dean or President Kerry would be better? I have no doubt that more Americans would be slaughtered if a Democrat were to be elected.
57 posted on 07/01/2003 6:48:07 PM PDT by nyconse
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