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George W. Bush--The First 30 Months
7-1-2003 | Justshe

Posted on 07/01/2003 8:46:22 AM PDT by justshe

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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
That's right - it is risky, but that's true of anything Rush does. If it works, he gains listeners and if it doesn't work, he loses some.

He knows that he has to say something provocative to keep it interesting. How many times will people listen to the same thing if it's not even controversial?

221 posted on 07/01/2003 12:01:34 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Summertime!)
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To: The Old Hoosier
Have added, to the second list, as per your request:

Take back his support for the SCOTUS AA Michigan decision

Do not award O'Connor with SCOTUS Chief Justice postion because of her sodomy vote



222 posted on 07/01/2003 12:02:32 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: tnlibertarian
If you could be a bit more specific it might be easier to figure out what you want me to add to the lists that are not currently listed ---- on either one list or the other.
223 posted on 07/01/2003 12:04:59 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: eyespysomething; SUSSA; Uncle Bill; Fred Mertz; Sabertooth
That needs a thread of its own just as this thread is a spin off, that Post should be made as its own thread of real truth.

Fantastic post.

224 posted on 07/01/2003 12:05:26 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Southflanknorthpawsis
Post #204 is the funniest thing I've read all day.


Well some people are easily impressed I suppose. What it shows to me is that the 'showboy' has no core values at all. He calls the President all those things from socialist, UN Man, Commie, Liberal, etc and professes to hate those things..... Yet he claims to be going to support the President for reelection come MAY 2004.... Now what does that say about his value system?

He has none because he's going to vote/support the person he claims that is all those things which he detest... You know, don't do as I do but only as I say do.

225 posted on 07/01/2003 12:05:39 PM PDT by deport ( BUSH/CHENEY 2004...... with or without the showboy)
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To: OWK
Ya got the executive branch, and both houses of congress.... and we're still hearing this "best we could hope for" hand-wringing nonsense.

The GOP must be thanking God for it's apologists...

This pretty much sums it up....

226 posted on 07/01/2003 12:05:55 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: justshe
Thank you for all your hard work - and for the ping !!


227 posted on 07/01/2003 12:06:39 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: deport
Now what does that say about his value system?

Much !!!!!

I am so disappointed that a person as ridiculous as he is is so prominent on FR (frequency-wise).

228 posted on 07/01/2003 12:08:49 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: MeeknMing
GREAT GRAPHIC !!!!!!!!!!
229 posted on 07/01/2003 12:09:30 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: Catspaw
I missed your earlier post on this thread. Without turning THIS thread into a discussion of the wisdom re: the Israel/Palestinian (as there are many threads on the board already addressing this issue), is there something more you would like me to add to this which is already on the list?

Stop all foreign aid to the Palestinians

230 posted on 07/01/2003 12:10:24 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: justshe
Signed a bill making it harder for poor and middle-class Americans to file for bankruptcy, even in the case of daunting medical bills.

Actually, he has not signed this bill, although he certainly intends to. It got hung up in the Senate last time.

231 posted on 07/01/2003 12:11:00 PM PDT by The Old Hoosier (Right makes might.)
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To: The Old Hoosier
More info which actually makes it clearer:

For example, the Senate last year attached an amendment to a massive defense authorization bill to repeal an existing ban on performing abortions in military medical facilities, except to save the life of the mother, or in cases of rape or incest. In a September 24 letter to members of the House-Senate conference committee on that bill, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld said, "The President's senior advisers would recommend that the President veto the bill if it changes current law" on the use of military facilites for abortion –– the traditional formula for a veto threat. The offensive provision was quietly dropped in conference, and the bill was signed into law on December 2.

NRLC

232 posted on 07/01/2003 12:11:13 PM PDT by ravingnutter
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To: winodog
Sounds like a good project. I give you permission (wink) to use the lists from this thread for your research. Be sure and ping me to it... :-)
233 posted on 07/01/2003 12:11:42 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: justshe
How about cancelling all aid to the Palestinians, direct and indirect.
234 posted on 07/01/2003 12:12:10 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: TLBSHOW
Thanks, I'll make sure the Mr. knows.

Maybe I'll start a thread later this evening when I have more time to spend on it!

235 posted on 07/01/2003 12:14:38 PM PDT by eyespysomething (Breaking down the stereotypes of soccer moms everyday!)
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To: deport
>>>You are comparing two different eras, apples and oranges, imo.

I'm glad you qualified those remarks.

You can be dismissive of the Reagan Era, as much as you like. The facts are the facts. Reagan was POTUS only 14 years ago. That's less then a generation. I didn't compare PresBush`s political agenda or his public tempermant with that of PresReagan, to slight GW Bush. It was done as a compliment. So don't get so defensive. Long ago George W.Bush said that he greatly admired PresReagan and the accomplishments of his Presidency. (And no, I don't have the exact quote, so don't ask for one.) PresBush has made similiar remarks on several occasions throughout the 2000 campaign and during his time in the WH. Most people think any comparisions of Bush to Reagan, are just fine.

I'll tell you one thing, if Ronald Reagan was POTUS in 2001, there would never have been a 9-11. IMO, of course.

236 posted on 07/01/2003 12:15:51 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Howlin
Then I wonder why it is that the "BushBots" are constantly called socialists?

"Constantly" might be a stretch. But, I can certainly identify with those who mourn the weakening and tearing down of our Constitution at the hands of Democrats and Republicans alike (not to mention their SCOTUS appointees).

I can't help but wonder how we'd be ranting non-stop about Campaign Finance Reform and The Patriot Act if they'd been passed and signed into law by Democrats.

It's just that, after a while, it becomes obvious that there will be no real reform until things get bad enough, or the slippery slope gets steep enough. Until then, vilifying the Republicans and Bush as socialists and casting third-party protest votes will accomplish nothing other than perhaps help get Democrats elected.

It's all a matter of perspective. Some see the glass as 2/3 full, others as 4/5 empty. Once there's a big enough hole in the bottom and/or there's only a few drops left, people will wake up and do something. Consider that Al Gore was one robe short of counting and recounting chads until he could manufacture enough votes to win Florida and the presidency. If the decision had gone in his favor, I was prepared to fly the flag upside down (the distress signal) or burn it in my driveway. On the one hand, I'm glad the Constitution prevailed, if only barely. But, the slow march of socialism continues. Revolution will wait for a darker day. To ensure its arrival, Dems will 'Bork' any and every even marginally-conservative SCOTUS appointee Bush might have occasion to throw at them, no matter what race or gender. If he manages to get a Clarence Thomas past them, it will be only by the grace of God. Let's hope Bush has what it takes to appoint a Clarence Thomas.

(Thanks for the kind words. Don't let my lengthy reply discourage you from complimenting others. ;O)

237 posted on 07/01/2003 12:16:14 PM PDT by newgeezer (Admit it; Amendment XIX is very much to blame.)
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To: Catspaw
List amended to: Stop all foreign aid to the Palestinians, direct and indirect

Thanks, Catspaw.
238 posted on 07/01/2003 12:16:43 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: newgeezer
>>>It's all a matter of perspective. Some see the glass as 2/3 full, others as 4/5 empty.

"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it. "Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything. "I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life

239 posted on 07/01/2003 12:25:24 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
I'll tell you one thing, if Ronald Reagan was POTUS in 2001, there would never have been a 9-11. IMO, of course.

Well, you mustn't forget that the terrorist types 'tried' President Reagan, too - remember Beirut?

President Reagan's response, IIRC, was swift and sure, and he wasn't too worried about what other countries thought of it.

President Reagan is my favorite president of my lifetime, so far anyway ;-), but we mustn't pretend that he was perfect, or that everything was 100% wonderful during those 8 years.

240 posted on 07/01/2003 12:26:00 PM PDT by Amelia (It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
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