Army Corps Approves Plan for Muslim Camp

Associated Press ^ | 06-30-03

[Brian S]

Army Corps Approves Plan for Muslim Youth Camp in Iowa, if Proposal Is Scaled Back

The Associated Press

IOWA CITY, Iowa June 30 —

The Army Corps of Engineers has approved a plan to build the nation's first summer camp for Muslims if organizers scale back their proposal.

Col. William J. Bayles, the corps' district engineer in Rock Island, Ill., issued a report Monday, saying there would be no significant impact from the Muslim Youth Camps of America's plans for 106 acres along Coralville Lake north of Iowa City.

But the ruling asks the group to submit a new plan with a 50 percent reduction in the project's use and size.

The proposal by the Cedar Rapids-based nonprofit group has drawn attention and criticism from a range of detractors since it was proposed in 1999.

Neighbors say it will alter their quiet, rural way of life and have a negative effect on the environment. Local government officials complained it would stress services, while a small group of others voiced distrust of Islamic groups.

The original plan calls for 10 overnight cabins to hold up to 136 campers, swimming and dock facilities, a paved parking lot and caretaker's residence.

The plan also features a 17,500-square-foot convention center. Organizers say the center would not be used for overnight stays, but would be open year-round for conferences, weddings and weekend retreats.

The Bayles' report said a scaled-back plan would provide for about 60 campers and staff for 10 weeks during the summer, and for intermittent recreational and educational use by up to 1,500 people the rest of the year.

Bayles said the corps will enter into lease negotiations once a reduced-use proposal is approved. The group also needs to obtain state permits.

"In general, we feel quite satisfied with their decision," said Manzoor Ali, the group's board chairman. "We will look at what they're proposing and get together as a team and see what we can do with our plan."

[Iowa Granny]

I will at least try to remember to freepmail you with my on the scene report. I'm not very good with computers and don't post threads here due to frustration levels going thru the roof when I try. I'm not old enough to qualify for free blood pressure pills from the gov't, so I try to limit my frustrating activities.

A fellow by the name of Blues for Golf notified the Iowa Freepers about this event via the Iowa Freeper page. I promised to let him know how it went, too.

[ThreePuttinDude]

Hold it right there mister....

[steplock]

Muslim GOOD - American Christian Boy Scouts EVIIIILLLLL!!!

Is there something wrong with this picture? As was cried out in the later part of the 18th century...

To Arms! To Arms!

[gypsy-joker]

hmmmm tricky question.......a persons rights to free assoseation and freedom of religion ......or........denial of those rights due to inflamed hatred.......and no im not a muslim.....(please excuse spelling errors...lol)

[steplock]

Something is VERY WRONG with this Picture!

Army Corps Approves Plan for Muslim Youth Camp in Iowa
http://abcnews.go.com/wire/US/ap20030630_1969.html

but

Boy Scouts' Moral stance clouds use of land
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/938153/posts

I am feeling very ILL

[Lijahsbubbe]

Yes, I'm sure this is really an excellent strategy in disguise. It's something we don't know about, something we can't figure out yet.

[RLK]

Is the government supposed to building facilities to enable these goofs? I know it violates the principle of separation of sanity and state, but doesn't it also violate the princple of church and state?

[Lijahsbubbe]

The face of evil:

[RLK]

And Iowans are going to put up with this in their midst?

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Coralville is a suburb of Iowa City and the University of Iowa. The school and the area make Berkley look like the John Birch Society.

[steplock]

I HAD to save that picture!

:>)

[Im Your Huckleberry]

I do smell a RAT. What the f--- business does any state entity have enabling a Junior Jihadi training camp in the middle of Iowa?!

Our enemies are running rampant in our midst, people, and very few seem to care...

[Lijahsbubbe]

http://www.muslimyouthcamp.org/index.shtml

At Muslim Youth Camp, we have a broad definition of “youth.” No one is too young or too old to attend, and we encourage whole families to experience an MYC week together, each finding their own “inner youth.” When families arrive at MYC together, each family member can find camaraderie with campers of his or her own peer group – whether in the craft cabin with other 7-year-olds, or in postgraduate classes with other parents.

MYC is also known for bringing together young Muslims from not only all over the United States and Canada, but also the entire world. An MYC camper is just as likely to make a new friend who lives just across town as one who lives halfway across the globe.

[Lijahsbubbe]

There are some neat ones here: http://users.scronline.com/troop77/scoutinghistory.htm

[Michael2001]

What a great idea. Nothing could go wrong (sarcasm)

[steplock]

But the problem is NOT as much as allowing the camp as it is with the blatant attacks on our own MORAL EHTICS and children by our left-wing radical extremists.

The fact that they are supporting you, in the eyes of most Americans, you cannot be on our side. Rightly or wrongly, If the enemy of our enemy is our friend, then the Friend of our Enemy is our Enemy.

Human nature and your religion agrees with that.

[Lijahsbubbe]

You've totally lost me. Speak slower and clearer, it's grandma.

[steplock]

I am getting worried - this country IS at war. With enemies from without AND from within. Some enemies are obvious, some are in "sheep's clothing".

Strategically, we destroy the obvious enemy while keeping our eye close on the not so obvious / questionable ones. If we blindly go forward, we will be attacked from behind. But if we cowardly sit back and cower, we will be simply destroyed from all sides. I have spent too many years in communist countries - I'm still alive - a lot of them aren't.

[DPB101]

I Seem to Remember a Constitutional Prohibition regarding "Separation of Church & State."

You recall wrong. You have been the victim of, as Ann Coulter would say, a "hegemonic" lie.

There is nothing in the constitution to prohibit this. Allowing Muslims, Christians or whoever to use public land is not establishing a religion. Congress once gave public land to Christian missionaries.

[pyx]

Gee ... what's all the fuss ?
I heard on radio today an advertisment for a MUSLIM FAMILY DAY at Canada's Wonderland Park located North of Toronto, Ontario, Canada.

I wonder if one of the events at the park planned on that day will be the march of the junior Al Aqsa Brigade of preteen homicide bombers.

[zarf]

How many credits do you get for completing Making Exploding Vests 101?