What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?

It is heartbreaking to see what is happening to our country. We are plunging into decadence at an alarming rate and it seems that it may already be too late to turn back. Let's face it, we are fast becoming a country that our forefathers wouldn't recognize. Judges have, by and large, become activists for the socialist state. The president is dragged through the mud publicly at every opportunity by members of the opposing party, instead of being honored as our leader as he should be. Lying is as common as breathing no matter whose reputation or career might be damaged and more and more the media we once looked to for information reports only propagnada, half-truths and sometimes blatant lies. We no longer have any real security, neither as a sovreign nation with well-defined and protected borders, nor in our homes where the simple act of defending ourselves or our family can now cost us everything and even land us in prison. Our children are no longer our own to raise, but subjects of the state to be indoctrinated in the ways of "tolerance". The rights of criminals trump those of victims and of society as a whole. Marriage between a man and a woman is considered antiquated and to make a furthur mockery of a sacred institution, it is deemed desirable for the perverse practitioners of homosexuality. The evil doctrine of Islam and prayer to its false god is considered acceptable to impose upon school children, but the sacred scriptures are deemed offensive and prayer to the true God forbidden. The same people who will celebrate the slaughter of 85,000,000 innocents in the womb, will rally to spare the life of a serial murderer. We labor under an increasingly intolerable tax burden and we seem unable to do so much as get a handle on the fraud that keeps putting individuals in public office that work against the interests of the people.

When black has become white, murder is a right, lies are declared to be truth, the wrong word or even expression of belief can cost a job or even land you in jail, where do we turn? Do we continue to accept the increasing weight of the chains of political correctness and liberal tyranny? Do we keep going along with the status quo in hopes of a brighter tomorrow? Are we completely helpless to rise up and take charge of our country or are our chains already so well-forged that fighting them is futile and all we can do is moan under the weight of their burden? Is there any hope of restoring decency and common sense? Can our Republic be resurrected?

If the answer is yes, then how? It seems to matter little whether democrats or Republicans are in power, the wheels of a socialist state seem to have already been set in motion and are gaining momentum all the time. It seems that conservatives, patriots and Christians have only stayed the tide by putting a finger in the dike, but we can only hold back the flood for so long without reinforcements. Will they ever come? And if not, what then? Do we just give up, living the best we can till we die, clinging to what liberty we think we have? Or do we seek alternatives? How much do we value our liberty? Do we move away, find a deserted island somewhere? Do we secede even at the risk of another civil war? Do we challenge the government by passive resistance and noncompliance to force its collapse that we might start over? What is the answer?

I know many FReepers have given this a lot of thought and have ideas about how to cope if/when the current climate becomes unbearable. Desperate times call for desperate measures and it seems we are fast approaching desperation. The liberals would call this progress. I would call it a perilous plunge into the wells of decadence, with the glory of our past fast becoming nothing more than an echo in the ruins of a once great nation. < /rant >

The only rightful claim of any lawful authority of our federal government is printed within our Constitution. This social contract binds "public servants" as well as We the People to the exact terms of that contract, otherwise each party shall be in breach and outlaw to the Law of the Land.

Our 1st Amendment puts our federal government on notice that we'll talk with whom we please about what we please - especially about our 2nd, which affirms only our God given rights to keep and bear arms in this our free state. On to our 9th, not all by any means of our rights are enumerated as are the powers of government so limited as per enumeration. Our 10th tells the federal government designed by our Constitution that we and our several states damn sure make it plain that we shall remain in control of everything not therein enumerated for government.

Our 14th puts all states and their inferior jurisdictions under the People'e control so that our Bill of Rights is enforcible against all of the several states as well as the federal government.

We the people consent to be governed temporarily by the limited terms specified by our Constitution. We the people reserve the right and power for change of the governing, much less the ruling.

Those high officials who mock their sworn oath of office to play out their view of utopia are in jeopardy of being replaced before their full term of office expires.

To protect and defend our Constitution against all enemies foreign and domestic means what it says. Those enemies may know who they are themselves, but We the People know well.

High officials through blackrobe tyranny and mob rule have abused the powers granted by consent of the governed. To claim that citizens are acting unlawfully without legal protection of our Constitution by our objections and actions flies in the face of those very facts that people in office who have violated our Constitution void their lawful authority. Rogue case/bench, aka "controlling legal authority", law or court orders falling from them are not superior to our Law of the Land.

Nullification of our Constitution by announcing "compelling State interest" does not convey upon blackrobes or their accomplices authority by position or preserve their doctrine of "sovereign immunity", not granted in our Constitution, as they pillory the only contract providing their terms of employment. It makes them Outlaws of the Land.

One SCOTUS justice declared that the Constitution is not a suicide pact, but neither is it a contract hit on citizens' rights.

With no lawful authority, they only have power. Forceful police powers of the State. Generations of High office outlaws have gone before, damaging our Republic's Rule of Law. The Clintonazis demonstrated their willingness to abuse power at Mt. Carmel and on and on. Submit or face ruin or simply die. Little matter.

Rules of Engagement understood.

55 - The fight will not begin until we are not allowed to worship Christ.
In PA a bill was recently passed that makes it illegal to speak in public certain parts of the Bible (parts referring negatively to homosexuality). Therefore, your comment is a current reality, not a future concern. The Bible HAS become outlawed in one of our states which supposedly follows the Constitution. Anyone outraged?!

62 - You asked if a major collapse would cause a kind of despair that would lead people to repentance and a return to God or at least their own common sense.
IMO, NO, because the Bible says that in the end times, tribulation will come, and people will curse God more and more (not turn to Him).

81 - You still can demand a warrant before your house is searched. You still can get a trial if you're arrested.
With the passing of the Patriot Act II, both of these will no longer be true. In fact, I think the first one was done away with w/the 1st Patriot Act.

Anymore strawmen out there?

I'm confused, is this about states no longer being able to poke their noses into bedrooms or the MTV-ification, OPHRA-fication, and Springer-fication of our culture which, when coupled with a HUGE and unaccountable federal govt., has diversified, feminized, and freakisized a once-free and independent people?

If it's the latter, I'd say these are mere symptoms, while the 'disease' would be the 'living' document interpretations of our constitution.

Common sense and common decency, for instance, have declined at about the same rate as folks have abandoned the 2nd ammendment- their right to use lethal force in self defense anywhere and at anytime, against anyone, including all Saddam wannabes. Most states support this (though they'd be hesitant to prosecute you if you shot an intruder, and could prove that your life was in immediate danger, etc.) Unrestrained governments are comfortable with throwing their weight around. Your life would be pretty much worthless if someday you decided to take up arms over a particular tax increase.(see Tea)

I guarantee that were the 2nd ammendment fully respected as it was intended you would not witness parades being held in celebration of various forms of sexual deviation but rather closet space hard to come by.

Well, well, well. I figured sooner than later something would come along and piss just about everyone off. I DID always say it would be something unexpected. What I did not think was it would be two butt buddies whining at being caught doing the bunghole boogie that would wake up so many as to the real state of affair we are in right now. What is that state? OK, let's just see what is here on this very thread....

"Revolution."
What do you think it would take to actually push most of us to that point?
9 posted on 06/30/2003 7:45 PM CDT by sweetliberty

Here is the answer......I liked it from the first time I read it...I have dreamed for a long time of the Free and independent Republic of Texas....It was once....it can be again.
It's Time to Part Company
12 posted on 06/30/2003 7:46 PM CDT by B.O. Plenty

You are so right. This country has fought for independence and freedom before and probably would do so again.
20 posted on 06/30/2003 7:56 PM CDT by FloridaBoy

The answer is the the same as it was in 1861.
SECESSION....a very real alternative, and the only Constitutional remedy to the problem of a tyrannical and overbearing Federal Government, that unfairly taxes it's people, it's courts are abusive etc.
21 posted on 06/30/2003 7:56 PM CDT by TexConfederate1861

"What are our options...." Buy another box of ammo.
25 posted on 06/30/2003 8:02 PM CDT by caisson71

Question: "What Are Our Options When the Constitution No Longer Protects Us?"
Answer: Slavery or fight.
27 posted on 06/30/2003 8:04 PM CDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS

I've always believed the second civil war is a matter of when, not if. The more time passes, the more I think I'm right. It all depends, do YOU want to fight? If so, vote for democrats. Or, do you want your KIDS to fight? Then vote for republicans. You know, the whole tree of liberty thing...
35 posted on 06/30/2003 8:14 PM CDT by IYAAYAS

I've got a question. Back in the mid 18th century how many men got together and decided to "do" something. That something being the American revolution. Was it two or three conspirators, or maybe half a dozen? An idea whose time has come cannot be stopped. When or if the time is right it WILL happen. Once the ball starts to roll nothing will stop it. Is the time now? I doubt it. Our government can't be thrown off just because it pisses us off. The grievances must be insufferable, each man must choose that point for himself. Personally I don't think we're even close, but we're going there.
44 posted on 06/30/2003 8:29 PM CDT by IYAAYAS

But when a long Train of Abuses and Usurpations, pursuing invariably the same Object, evinces a Design to reduce them under absolute Despotism, it is their Right, it is their Duty, to throw off such Government, and to provide new Guards for their future Security."
With Chancellor Palapatine on this thread, I suppose this text would be labelled as seditious. I would have to agree, but from a different mindset.
45 posted on 06/30/2003 8:30 PM CDT by Tench_Coxe

Rest assured it was not only advanced, but kicked into warp drive. Even if that weren't the case, however, this decision is but one tiny element alongside a thousand others.
This society, this government, this country, is BROKEN, and it's broken beyond repair by conventional means. The notion that we voters have control of this country is a joke, pure illusion. We control nothing.
And like the original poster, I see the decadence and decay accelerating all around us.
MM
73 posted on 06/30/2003 9:12 PM CDT by MississippiMan

The danger in promoting a democracy, instead of a republic.
83 posted on 06/30/2003 9:26 PM CDT by Pan_Yans Wife

3% of 300 million = 9 million pissed off snipers. The US government even with it's weapons would be in deep kimchee.
99 posted on 06/30/2003 9:45 PM CDT by Centurion2000

But a lot of Jews died praying to God for salvation from the Nazis. Pray, but fight also. As Churchill said, never, never, never surrender! Anyone who is too cowardly to fight for their freedom doesn't deserve it.
Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!
111 posted on 06/30/2003 9:57 PM CDT by wku man

IOW, while most "Americans" shall be hailing the dictator of a new world order -- the One World Government, and saluting the total balkanization of America in the name of egalitarianism, others will be reacting appropriately...
148 posted on 06/30/2003 11:02 PM CDT by F16Fighter

etc, etc, etc . . .

So, very educational. Looks like the kettle is a lot closer to boiling over than the mid-stream media is letting on. And hardly anyone brought up the issue of California about to go under from the illegal border crossers, or the issue of the invasion from our South!

Judging from the review of posts on this ONE thread, the shooting war is only a matter of time, and not too much of that either. Fortunately, it is my best estimation that as soon as the pics of the collaborators hanging from tree branches are thick and fast on internet, the forward thinking, intellectually superior PC crowd will become as popular as skunks at breakfast. And they will surrender. And they will be dealt with. No PC here. I suggest we look to history for guidance on how to deal with traitors.

I for one am advising everyone that preparation is not something you do and complete, it is a daily chore.

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.