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Powell calls on Israel to pull back from West B. cities and towns, relinquish control of them to PA
Haaretz ^ | 6/30/2003

Posted on 06/30/2003 12:33:13 PM PDT by yonif

21:58 Powell calls on Israel to pull back from West Bank cities and towns, relinquish control of them to Palestinian Authority


TOPICS: Breaking News; Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; Israel; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: concessiontoterror; israel; pa; powell; roadmap; terrorists; waronterrorism
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1 posted on 06/30/2003 12:33:14 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Great plan, it is bound to work this time.
2 posted on 06/30/2003 12:34:33 PM PDT by Radix
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To: yonif
Next thing we know, Powell will be arguing that the United States needs to pull out of California, Arizona, Nevada, New Mexico and Texas in order to satisfy the Mexicans.
3 posted on 06/30/2003 12:35:21 PM PDT by xrp
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To: yonif
Same old same old same old same old...and so on.
4 posted on 06/30/2003 12:35:59 PM PDT by sarasota
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To: yonif
Where's the "idiot alert" for this post?

Powell saying anything like that definately calls for him being called an idiot.

5 posted on 06/30/2003 12:36:32 PM PDT by Bikers4Bush
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To: yonif
Perhaps Powell should call on the US to withdraw from New York City and let Al queda have it. That may appease them and stop the violence.
6 posted on 06/30/2003 12:36:51 PM PDT by week 71
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To: yonif
Perhaps Powell should call on the US to withdraw from New York City and let Al queda have it. That may appease them and stop the violence.
7 posted on 06/30/2003 12:36:51 PM PDT by week 71
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ReligionofMassDestruction; ...
I've already pinged you to many articles showing that the PA are terrorists and others including one from the Preventative Security leader of the PA WHO HE HIMSELF SAYS they do not intend on going after their terrorist buddies. It is all a ploy. Powell is telling Israel to trust its security in the hands of foreigners (in this case terrorists who have "proven" what they are during the Oslo Accords). Israel is going along with it like sheep to the slaughter and are putting themselves up for more deaths, more orphans, and more destruction. Terrorism works....and the US is supporting that notion though its roadmap.

Mr. Powell, what have the PA done to deserve this call from you to Israel? They only killed one person today? How many Israeli deaths will it take for you to take back your words? It took the US 3000 deaths on Sept. 11 to make our army go after the terrorists. It took 54 years for about 3000 deaths of Israelis to occur (which translates to over 10,000 deaths in the US proporation) and we still do not allow Israel to do the same. When will the madness end? Would you let the Taliban take over security in your country?

8 posted on 06/30/2003 12:38:18 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Powell must be working under the misconception that the West Bank belongs to the Palestinians, and Israel really is an occupier.

Powell must not have read UN Resolution 242 either.

9 posted on 06/30/2003 12:38:45 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: week 71
Perhaps Powell should call on the US to withdraw from New York City and let Al queda have it. That may appease them and stop the violence.

Better yet, let's let the Taliban take control and they will stop Al Queda.

10 posted on 06/30/2003 12:39:33 PM PDT by yonif
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To: yonif
Interviewed on the Arabic television station Al-Jazeera on June 23, 2003, Powell was asked, "Can you explain the difference you see between legitimate resistance and terrorism in the Middle East?" Powell replied by saying that the recent Palestinian Arab drive-by shooting in which a 7 year-old girl was murdered "is terrorism." He then added: "The same thing happens on the other side when the response comes and innocent people lose their lives, young people on the Palestinian side."

At one time I really liked Powell.  Over the years I have come to see a completely different side of the man.  He is unfit to hold the office of Secretary of State.

Does he also seek to equate collateral damage during our military efforts to be terrorism?  Mr. Powell, place your resignation on the desk by morning.

11 posted on 06/30/2003 12:41:44 PM PDT by DoughtyOne (Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
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To: yonif
He has morphed into Madaline Aldull..What technology can do now days. Amazing.
12 posted on 06/30/2003 12:43:52 PM PDT by Goreknowshowtocheat
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To: yonif
I would send Powell a simple answer! We will but the first bombing and we will turn that shit hole into dust. Then see if he believes his own press.
13 posted on 06/30/2003 12:50:31 PM PDT by cksharks
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To: xrp
It's on the tip of his tongue. He is just waiting for the right time. In his mind, once the Israeli's are gone then he can go after his own countrymen. repeat after me, reparations, reparations, reparations. Forget the fact that his background is fron the Carribbean. He and his State Department should just set sail and all go and live long and prosper in that new paradise called West Jordan, oops, Palestine!!
14 posted on 06/30/2003 12:57:53 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Napoleon Solo
Either this is the greatest trick played upon the world by a very pro Israel administration, looking to say one thing in public but winking to the Israeli's in private or they are just one stupid bunch of fools led unfortunately from the head down to the tail with people who have no clue.
15 posted on 06/30/2003 1:01:41 PM PDT by Napoleon Solo
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To: Radix
This just proves the point I've made over the past several days that the Bush Administration is acting as agents for the PLO. This is the same thing that Newt Gingrich said about Clinton. Bush is taking his orders from the Saudi despot. It isn't even subtle anymore.
16 posted on 06/30/2003 1:06:52 PM PDT by LarryM
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To: SJackson; Yehuda; Nachum; adam_az; LarryM; American in Israel; ReligionofMassDestruction; ...
(06-30) 11:52 PDT WASHINGTON (AP) --

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/article.cgi?f=/news/archive/2003/06/30/national1441EDT0596.DTL

Secretary of State Colin Powell called on Israel on Monday to pull back from cities and towns on the West Bank and relinquish control of them to the Palestinian Authority.

In a round of television interviews after Israel pulled troops out of northern Gaza and agreed to withdraw from the West Bank town of Bethlehem, Powell expressed optimism for Mideast peace prospects and boosted Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas as a worthy leader.

Yeah, "PM" Mazen is a real worthy leader. I am not even going to bother writing up that partial list of all the terrorist and anti-Semitic crimes of terrorist Abu Mazen.

"We hope that with these actions, the Palestinian people will realize that Prime Minister Abbas is producing for them and thereby they will empower him even further," Powell said on CNN's American Morning.

Oh yeah, he is really producing for them alright. Because 80% of them support the destruction of Israel, he is doing them good by giving time to those terrorists (like himself) who are pursuing that goal. The Palestinian "people" will empower him in time, have no doubt about that!

A U.S.-backed peacemaking road map requires the Palestinian Authority to dismantle the terror groups that agreed last weekend to stop attacking Israelis for periods ranging from three to six months.

The problem is, for that to happen the PA would have to dismantle itself. It is a terror group too.

"We ultimately have to reach a point where the capability for terrorism that exists in these organizations is removed," Powell said on NBC's Today show.

So your saying that Hamas can stay put if they stop terrorism?

Powell said for Israel to keep backpedaling from land on which the Palestinians intend to build a state there must be no terror and violence from the areas turned over to the Palestinian Authority.

Israel will keep backpedaling to the sea.

"You can't have people with guns, armed militia, inside of a state," he said. "So if we are going to have a Palestinian state all the weapons, all the force within that state, has to be under the government and these terrorist organizations have to be dismantled."

So the government will be in charged of the armed "militia" (i.e. terrorist groups), and weapons, and "all the force." Wow a real democratic state we have here. So you dismantle the many terrorist groups and unite them under one. How nice.

Powell said the Palestinian Authority had committed itself to make sure no more terror comes from areas it is taking over. He said he hoped Israel would now pull out of Bethlehem "and as confidence and trust are developed, hopefully the other cities and towns in the West Bank."

The PA committed itself to do that? Really? They "committed" themselves to do that during the Oslo Accords. They did not. The US again does not learn from its mistakes.

An unarmed U.S. monitoring group, headed by Assistant Secretary of State John S. Wolf, is working with the two sides on security arrangements. But most of the progress is a result of direct discussions between the two sides, State Department spokesman Richard Boucher said.

Asked on ABC's "Good Morning America," if recent developments were encouraging, Powell replied, "I think we should be optimistic. We've seen positive developments over the weekend with the security agreement between Israel and (the) Palestinian Authority to turn over responsibility for the Gaza Strip from Israel to the Palestinian Authority."

1) 21:12 Security forces receive 51 terror warnings Monday evening, just one day after Palestinian factions declare truce. 2) 4 Shooting terrorist attacks. 3)One killed in Terrorist attack. 3) 2 explosive devices thrown at IDF positions.

"They worked very hard on this turnover over the last week or so. I'm glad it came to a successful conclusion and it didn't take them long to executive," he said.

Yeah, it was a real"success"

Meanwhile, on the campaign trail with President Bush, who is soliciting contributions and political support for a race for a second term, White House spokesman Ari Fleischer said the president was very optimistic that "we may, as a world community, be able to watch the birth of a new nation."

I KNEW IT HAD TO DO SOMETHING WITH THE ELECTION TRAIL.

"The president is hopeful but he's realistic," Fleischer said. "The Middle East is an area where on a good day they take two steps forward, one step backward."

Bush sent Condoleezza Rice, his national security adviser, to Israel and the West Bank last weekend for talks with Abbas and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon.

She renewed an invitation to Abbas for a meeting with the President, and reports surfaced that the Palestinian leader and Israeli Prime Minister Ariel Sharon would meet with Bush again.

But Palestinian and Israeli sources said no date for visits had been considered.

17 posted on 06/30/2003 1:14:48 PM PDT by yonif
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To: LarryM
The net result of all of this appeasement is the recognition that " Terrorism" works!

It is hypocritical for the Administration to force the Israelis to negotiate with these primitives as he simultaneously commands a so called "war on terror."
18 posted on 06/30/2003 1:17:13 PM PDT by Radix
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To: Radix
All hail the great and mightly leader, George Walker Bush. May he reign forever in glory. /sarcasm
19 posted on 06/30/2003 1:27:40 PM PDT by MatthewViti
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To: yonif
I thought the appeasement of the Palies under Clinton was bad. This is worse, nauseatingly worse.
20 posted on 06/30/2003 1:27:49 PM PDT by Catspaw
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