PRAISE NEW JERSEY: Bill to ban smoking is filtered some more. Assembly sponsor: It's now toothless

nj.com ^ | 06-17-03 | DAVID KINNEY

[CSM]

"let casinos set aside smoking areas accounting for 20 percent of their premises, and allow restaurants to allow smoking in 20 percent of their seats."

Why would they only allow 20 percent when they know the per capita smoking rate is 30 percent? This doesn't seam like a compromise to me. Would it allow for growth if the demand exists?

[cake_crumb]

The prominant description of each section seems to be "UNDEFINED"! The whole thing sounds less than half written! Looks like somebodies in the legislature are playing both sides of the fence.

[cake_crumb]

"don't forget Delaware - that war is definitely not over - not by a long shot."

Yes, and may Delaware succeed in returning some sanity to it's state government as well. Sorry.

[metesky]

Good rant.

[XRdsRev]

You watch too much TV. New Jersey is not like most people picture it. Yes there are horrible parts of it but the vast majority of the state is very nice. It is also either the first or second wealthiest state in the nation. It is basically the same as every other state, some good stuff, some bad stuff. I have travelled over many parts of the United States and there really isn't much difference between suburban areas. If you were dropped from space into an area and didn't know where you were, you probably couldn't tell the difference between suburban New Jersey, suburban Virginia or suburban Tennessee, or rural New Jersey from rural Kentucky.

It also is a very Conservative state in many ways and has one of the lowest "Federal taxes paid to Federal assistance received" ratios of any state in the US.

Finally, very, very few people actually say "Joisey" or "yooz" or have a cousin in the mafia.

[miss marmelstein]

Praise the Lord and pass the butts!

[Recovering_Democrat]

BWA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA!!!!!

MajorPING!
for FREEDOM!

[SouthParkRepublican]

”Gov. James E. McGreevey would prefer to let each town decide whether to ban smoking”.

What a jackass. How about preferring to let business owners decide what is in their best interests. I am a smoker, a NJ resident, and a social drinker; these three things combine to limit my life expectancy to about 45 years. If NJ wants, I can spend the my remaining days patronizing some of the restaurants ¾ of a mile away in PA.

[qam1]

Notice how according to this article the people fighting the ban are "Lobbyist" while the people who are promoting the ban are "Groups"

Who says the press ain't Liberal?

[qam1]

Oh yeah, I have been jumping up and down with joy since I heard the news. I was beginning to think it was inevitable.

Though I am still kind of skeptical, The whole legislative is up for reelection this year and I am still concerned that once the elections are over and they don't have to worry about reelection they will then pass a full ban in the lame duck session.

[ladyjane]

Sorry rev - don't have a TV. I do go to New Jersey a lot and you're right, it is beautiful. Not every last inch of it, but much of New Jersey is beautiful. Unfortunately it has some of the highest rates of cancer in the country. Doesn't mean it's environmental. It could be genetic. Could be any number of things.

[Mears]

A non-smoker with a brain! How refreshing!

[XRdsRev]

From the CDC website "Cancer Prevention & Control"

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
New Jersey: 216.5 National: 206.0
New Jersey ranks 17th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

Not really the same as number 1 is it ?

[XRdsRev]

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Massachusetts: 212.8 National: 206.0
Massachusetts ranks 23rd highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

You're not far behind.

[XRdsRev]

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Indiana: 218.4 National: 206.0
Indiana ranks 16th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Ohio: 218.5 National: 206.0
Ohio ranks 15th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Alabama: 218.9 National: 206.0
Alabama ranks 14th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Rhode Island: 219.1 National: 206.0
Rhode Island ranks 13th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
New Hampshire: 219.8 National: 206.0
New Hampshire ranks 12th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Arkansas: 219.8 National: 206.0
Arkansas ranks 11th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Nevada: 219.9 National: 206.0
Nevada ranks 10th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Maryland: 220.9 National: 206.0
Maryland ranks 9th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Tennessee: 222.8 National: 206.0
Tennessee ranks 8th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Maine: 224.5 National: 206.0
Maine ranks 7th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
West Virginia: 225.9 National: 206.0
West Virginia ranks 6th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Mississippi: 227.3 National: 206.0
Mississippi ranks 5th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Kentucky: 231.2 National: 206.0
Kentucky ranks 4th highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Delaware: 233.7 National: 206.0
Delaware ranks 3rd highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
Louisiana: 237.3 National: 206.0
Louisiana ranks 2nd highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

The average annual age-adjusted mortality rate for cancer
deaths per 100,000 persons2
District of Columbia: 245.8 National: 206.0
The District of Columbia ranks highest overall in cancer mortality rates among the 50 states and Washington, D.C.

[gtech]

A non-smoker with a brain! How refreshing!

Seriosly, I don't care if you smoke or not. And honestly, I really don't want you doing it near me. I hate the smell of it. But what I don't want even more is people using the government to nanny me and limit my choices. Smoking now... what next? I'm a big boy. If I'm near smoke and don't like it I have lots of options. Move, leave, spend my money somewhere else, or put my own time and money into a non-smoking establishment of my own. I don't need the government telling me I'm too stupid to make those choices and it must be done against a property owners will. This is a very big deal to me because of what it means for our future as a nation, especially just having gone through a change to the costitution here in FL on the subject.