The Alliance for Marriage and the Federal Marriage Amendment

http://www.allianceformarriage.org/reports/030304/030304.htm

[PhiKapMom]

I'm just intrigued to find out the dimensions & outcome of this historic cultural battle.

That makes two of us. I am wondering if some of the people who have been part of the look-the-other way group are going to wake up finally.

When the Clintons came to power, the Gay (I hate the fact they use that word) movement started gaining strength. I think Schumers comments at the Gay Parade reflect the thinking of the very liberal part of the RAT Party.

Just read at NRSC that John Breaux may retire -- guess he is tired of what has happened to the Senate Democrats run by Hillary. I can remember when I disagreed with the DemocRATs (usually have), but I still respected some of them especially from the South. Former Senator David Boren is President of The University of Oklahoma but is a support of President Bush and an advisor on Intelligence and Foreign Affairs to him. He supported Clarence Thomas for the SCOTUS too! Those types don't seem to exist in the Clinton DemocRAT Party anymore!

After seeing Schumer's comments today at the Parade, I had to wonder how far left the RATs have gone!

[Coleus]

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[Antoninus]

The key hurdle will be the U.S. House & Senate.

Well, if the poll numbers don't change (a pretty big "if", I know), I suspect the vote whores in Congress will have serious trouble voting against this. Especially in districts where the loss of even 5-10% of the Black or Hispanic vote could swing things....

[Polycarp]

Unfortunately, we have finally entered the latter stage he describes here. But I'm going to die fighting.

[PhiKapMom]

Oklahoma has a RAT Governor but two of the most conservative Senators in the Senate -- Nickles and Inhofe. Believe even the DemocRATs in Oklahoma would support this amendment because they are not very liberal except for a few! A lot of Southern Baptist in the State and if the Legislature didn't pass it, they would be gone!

[Antoninus]

If the Supreme Court knew that it's decisions could be overturned by the collective actions of a supermajority of the states, there would be a greater incentive for moderation in the decisions of the Supreme Court.

Another major benefit. This is our only check on a rogue Supreme Court. Why not use it and teach them to knock of the extra-legal judicial activism?

[PhiKapMom]

Glad to meet a fellow half glass full person! You might use the word eternal optimist! If you believe in something, you need to go for it and don't quit just because the glass half empty folks say it won't work!

In 2000, if the naysayers had their way saying we were going to lose to Gore in Florida, then we might have. Instead we had a group of people that believed we were right and didn't quit fighting.

[Mo1]

It'll be one H#LL of a fight. I think it'll get real, real partisan.

I agree .. Something everyone needs to be prepared for

[Paleo Conservative]

"If this makes it out of the Congress, I've counted exactly 38 states [the required minimum] that I think likely to ratify."

It'll be one H#LL of a fight. I think it'll get real, real partisan. How many of those States that are likely are Demon controlled?

Just because a legislature has a DemocRAT majority doesn't mean it will support such radical measures as "gay marriage". I would suspect voting against a constitutional amendment protecting marriage, could be bad for one's political carrer in most places, even for DemocRATS.

[templar]

xcept that I would omit the involvement of the House and Senate; they are part of the problem

This would require some other binding governmental forum. How would you ever get 38 States, acting independantly of each other, the pass exactly the same legislation? Remember, if the legislation wasn't exactly the same, they would not be passing for the same legislation.

Proposing a change that would put Congress out of the picture in the States collective actions would fundamentally change our way of government. I doubt the change would be for the better (it would take, in effect, a new Constitutional convention)

[PhiKapMom]

I pinged as soon as I saw the article! We need to make our voices heard!

[Mo1]

Those types don't seem to exist in the Clinton DemocRAT Party anymore!

Exactly .. and that is why I think this is going to get real nasty

[Coleus]

Don't count on it.

Bush and the Republicans also promised a Human Life Amendment, I'm still waiting...

http://www.rnc.org/GOPInfo/Platform/2000platform4.htm

[longtermmemmory]

Horray, bump bump and more bump.

This needs some traction. How do we get involved? Petitions?

[templar]

If you believe in something, you need to go for it and don't quit just because the glass half empty folks say it won't work!

I prefer to think in terms of a half full gas tank. If you need 3/4 of a tank full to get where you're going you'd better make some plans for the other 1/4 if you start out with only half a tank. Optimism by itself won't fill the tank, money and filling stations are going to be required.

[longtermmemmory]

There are 36 states with DOMA's you only need two more to get the ammendment approved.

I say go for it.

[AntiGuv]

The Dems control both chambers in Alabama, Arkansas, Louisiana, Mississippi, New Mexico, Oklahoma, Tennessee, and West Virginia.

They control one chamber in Georgia, Indiana, Kentucky, Minnesota, Nevada, North Carolina, Oregon, and Washington.

Of the states which I have as unlikely to ratify, the Dems control both chambers in California, Connecticut, Hawaii, Illinois, Maine, Maryland, Massachusetts, and Rhode Island.

They control one chamber in Delaware, New Jersey, New York, and Vermont.

[Victoria Delsoul]

Thanks PKM.

Bump!