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1 posted on 06/28/2003 7:24:15 PM PDT by Mr. Mulliner
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To: Mr. Mulliner
"Residential Hotel" = FLOPHOUSE
"Tenderloin" = ONE OF SAN FRANCISCO'S WORST NEIGHBORHOODS

But somehow, it'll all be the gun's fault.
2 posted on 06/28/2003 7:28:50 PM PDT by martin_fierro (A v v n c v l v s M a x i m v s)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Residential hotel AKA flophouse is the way it sounds to me.
4 posted on 06/28/2003 7:30:43 PM PDT by Mears
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"city's Tenderloin District"

Only in San Fran.
5 posted on 06/28/2003 7:31:03 PM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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I can hear it now...

Damn that GW, if he hadn't come to Frisco
this all would have been avoided

6 posted on 06/28/2003 7:34:24 PM PDT by ThreePuttinDude (...RightWing-nut, ......and Proud of it....8^)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
If somebody tried that in my home town, he'd be mowed down by any number of CCW holders. But that's the difference between living in a disarmed victim zone as opposed to a place where citizens take personal responsibility for their safety.
7 posted on 06/28/2003 7:34:29 PM PDT by AlaskaErik
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*Oh please let Mark Morfords name be in the details*
8 posted on 06/28/2003 7:34:30 PM PDT by Normal4me
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To: Mr. Mulliner
But we have gun control in California that's even more strict than the rest of the country!

BUT BUT BUT...

/sarcasm
10 posted on 06/28/2003 7:48:33 PM PDT by TheAngryClam (NO MULLIGANS- BILL SIMON, KEEP OUT OF THE RECALL ELECTION!)
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Just curious... did the gunman happen to say anything like "Death to America" or "Allah Akbar" when he opened fire?

Enquiring minds want to know.

14 posted on 06/28/2003 8:20:48 PM PDT by Imal (The Leftist Motto: "Celebrate Perversity")
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295.30
25 posted on 06/28/2003 8:56:27 PM PDT by Nick Danger (The liberals are slaughtering themselves at the gates of the newsroom)
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To: Mr. Mulliner
Here's the deal: If God doesn't destroy San Francisco pretty soon, He's going to have to apologize to Sodom and Gomorrah.
31 posted on 06/28/2003 9:25:13 PM PDT by mrobison
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The gunman, believed to be a resident at the hotel in the city's Tenderloin District, fled

Only New Sodom would have a district named Tenderloin.

33 posted on 06/28/2003 9:31:45 PM PDT by Thane_Banquo
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wait shouldnt the title be gun hovers three feet off the ground all by itself and pulls its own trigger killing three ?
34 posted on 06/28/2003 9:40:07 PM PDT by freepatriot32 (Heaven is weary, of the hollow words Which States and Kingdoms utter when they talk of justice)
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*Update*

Shooting kills three in San Francisco, suspect found dead (06-28) 19:57 PDT SAN FRANCISCO (AP) --

Three people were killed and another critically injured when a man opened fire in the lobby of a residential hotel Saturday, police said.

The suspect, who lived at the hotel in the city's Tenderloin District, was later found dead in his room, apparently from a self-inflicted gunshot wound, according to authorities.

The shooting at the Dalt Hotel apparently followed an argument there earlier in the day, San Francisco police Sgt. Neville Gittens told KCBS radio. Details remained unclear.

Two victims were pronounced dead at the scene and a third died at a local hospital, Gittens said. He said a fourth victim was in critical condition. Victims' names were not immediately released.

The suspect, John Bravard, 53, fled the lobby after the shooting, police said. Teams of officers searched the hotel, and about an hour later found Bravard's body in his room, authorities said.


Shooting suspect John Bravard in a San Francisco Police Department mug shot. He was the apparent assailant in four shootings at the Dalt Hotel near Taylor and Turk streets, which left four people dead, including Bravard, who apparently committed suicide. San Francisco Police Department Photo

45 posted on 06/29/2003 3:45:37 AM PDT by csvset (White Devil for Sharpton)
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I get the feeling reading these forums sometimes that some frequenters are positioning themselves high on the mountaintop to point a big finger when the whole thing finally goes all to hell. (May they be so lucky for it to happen it their lifetime)

Some portion of this community is glad for this crime because it serves to confirm their suspicions. Another portion wonders with their scorecard how well God did for himself, and waits just to report the results.

I'm glad for y'all, I am please believe me, but don't be sanctimonious.
49 posted on 06/29/2003 6:05:23 AM PDT by Tredge
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A San Francisco man described as "a ticking time bomb" fatally shot three men and critically wounded another Saturday afternoon before killing himself in his room after a bloody rampage in a Tenderloin hotel that sent terrified witnesses running through the streets.

Dozens of heavily armed police surrounded the Dalt Hotel on Turk Street and cordoned off the area before making a room-to-room search for the gunman, 53- year-old John Bravard.

The 5 p.m. shootings occurred several hours after the suspect jostled one of the victims in the hotel lobby.

"An argument resulted after someone bumped into him," said Sgt. Neville Gittens, police spokesman. "The next thing we know, he started shooting."

Homicide Inspector Lt. John Hennessey said the gunman fatally shot himself in his fourth-floor room. Bravard had a history of mental illness, Hennessey said, and hotel residents said he possessed a quick temper.

Dalt building manager Ruth Clarke said Bravard had an argument with tenant Paul Howard early in the afternoon. The two began arguing after they literally bumped into each other as Bravard was leaving.

Clarke said Bravard returned at 5 p.m. and immediately shot Louis Williams from the street as Williams stood at the entrance of the lobby. Bravard then entered the lobby and shot Howard, Joseph Garcia and Carlin Satterwhite, all tenants.

"He had no problem with Louis (Williams) and he never had a problem with Joseph (Garcia) but he just shot them," said Clarke.

Williams died at the scene and Satterwhite at the corner of Mason and Turk, said Clarke. Howard was rushed to San Francisco General Hospital, where he died. Garcia was transported to San Francisco General Hospital, where he underwent surgery and was listed in critical condition.

John Landas, 48, had just taken the elevator to the fifth floor when the shooting began. He heeded police orders and locked himself in his room. He later heard a thunderous blast from Bravard's room.


'THE FLOOR BOUNCED'
"When John killed himself, the floor bounced," said Landas. "It almost knocked me off my feet."

An 11-year resident of the Dalt, Landas said, "I've written many complaints about him but management just talked to him and they never processed it any further."

The sound of gunfire sent panicked hotel residents and others in the neighborhood running away from the Dalt, a 177-room residential hotel at 34 Turk St., where rooms rent for about $300 a month.

"I heard hella shots, a lotta shots, so I started running," said Muso Farrg,

who was getting into his car on Mason Street when the shooting started. "I was scared as hell. I got to Turk and Taylor and looked back and I saw a dude on the corner. He laid down and was bleeding from his mouth and then he stopped moving. I kept running."

David Bear was drinking a beer at the 21 Club at Taylor and Turk streets when the shooting started. He stepped outside to see what was happening and was pushed back by a horde of people running away.

"Everyone was panicked," he said. "You should have seen the looks on their faces."

More than 100 police officers and firefighters raced to the scene. As paramedics tended to the two wounded men, police armed with high-powered rifles took positions on rooftops and in alleyways as a SWAT team stormed the hotel to look for Bravard. Other officers closed Turk between Mason and Taylor streets and Mason between Turk and Eddy streets.

Bravard holed up in Room 446, where, residents said, he had lived for several years. At some point, he shot himself with a single bullet from the semiautomatic handgun he used in the attacks. A resident of the hotel, reached on her cell phone by a Chronicle reporter, cowered in the bathroom of her room one floor above Bravard.

"I heard a blast," the 46-year-old tenant whispered into the phone. "Oh, my God, am I gonna die?"

The woman said she befriended Bravard seven years ago when she moved into the Dalt. The relationship soured a few years ago, she said, after an argument over a mirror she was going to give him in exchange for a painting.


INTIMIDATED OTHERS
Residents said Bravard, known as "Big John," was a bit of a bully, a man who was quick to anger and often intimidated others at the hotel.

"He had a temper that would just explode without provocation," said Suzanne O'Hara, 60, who lived next door to him for many years before moving to the seventh floor of the Dalt. "He could be a gentle man when he wanted to be, but he could explode suddenly and you'd never know what happened."

O'Hara said Bravard once assaulted a security guard at the hotel and destroyed a television in the lobby. He also threatened her husband some years ago but backed down when she came after him with a knife.

Garrett Jenkins, who lives on the third floor of the Dalt, said: "Big John heard voices. He tried to pick fights with me and everyone else all the time. .

. . He was a ticking time bomb. He just lost it today. He probably shot them just because they were there."

However, friends of Bravard painted a radically different picture. They described him as a troubled but basically happy and friendly person who spent all day, every day, hanging out in the Power Vision video store on Market Street, helping customers for free, for the past 10 years.

He liked action movies, especially those starring Clint Eastwood and Charles Bronson, and would watch them in the back room of the store.

"I don't care what they say. There wasn't any bad side to John," said a customer who'd only give his name as Herbert and collapsed on a pile of videos upon hearing Bravard was dead. "He always helped us. He was always clean. He rode his bike everywhere. He must have just snapped."


'ALWAYS MAD AT THEM'
Part-time store clerk Roger Storer said Bravard gave money to the homeless and collected televisions, stereos and model cars.

"As long as you treated him right, he was good," Storer said. "But at the Dalt, he said everyone wanted his stuff and treated him wrong. . . . He was always mad at them. Sometimes he'd say he was going to shoot someone, but you'd just go, 'Yeah, right.' I mean, everyone says that sometimes, right?"

At the Hotel Vincent, where victim Paul Howard was the graveyard shift desk clerk, residents and workers reeled as they learned of his death.

"Just look at this," said Leslie Molina, property supervisor, pointing to a Christmas party photo showing Howard beaming. "He was so high-spirited, liked to crack jokes, was just wonderful to everyone here."

His friends said Howard liked Spanish music, had worked three years at the Vincent, and regarded the hotel people as his family.

Jan and Mick Miller, visiting the city from Crescent City, were returning to the upscale Metropolis Hotel next to the Dalt when they saw the yellow police tape.

"This is it," Mick exclaimed. "I had brown hair when I started this vacation. Now it's white. People don't shoot up where we're from, and I've seen that for two days. They don't shoot each other either. I can't believe San Francisco."

Chronicle staff writers Patricia Yollin and Jaxon Vanderbeken contributed to this story. / E-mail the writers at kfagan@sfchronicle.com., rkim@sfchronicle.com and csquatriglia@sfchronicle.com.

51 posted on 06/29/2003 11:03:11 AM PDT by csvset (White Devil for Sharpton)
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Source for update in post #51.

Pictures are available there as well.

55 posted on 06/29/2003 3:16:42 PM PDT by csvset (White Devil for Sharpton in '04!)
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To: Mr. Mulliner; *bang_list
Posted to *bang_list
57 posted on 06/30/2003 5:17:25 AM PDT by Copernicus (A Constitutional Republic revolves around Sovereign Citizens, not citizens around government.)
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Latest update: Source

Killer of 3 was known for temper
He usually kept away from others at Tenderloin hotel

Harriet Chiang, Chronicle Staff Writer

Monday, June 30, 2003 Click to View

Scott Thomas always considered the Dalt Hotel in San Francisco's Tenderloin district a haven in a rough neighborhood, the kind of place where tenants would watch out for each other.

But that sense of security was shattered late Saturday afternoon when John Bravard, who had lived at the Dalt for 14 years, gunned down three fellow tenants and critically wounded a fourth.

The 5 p.m. shootings happened after Bravard had gotten into an argument with a fellow tenant, Paul Howard, for bumping into him. Dalt manager Ruth Clarke said it wasn't unusual for Bravard to jostle another person as he went by, just to see how they would react.

"You could at least say 'Excuse me,' " a resident said Howard told Bravard.

Several hours later, Bravard, who police say had a history of mental illness, came back armed and began shooting.

He gunned down Louis Williams from the street as Williams stood in the entrance of the lobby. Bravard then entered and shot Howard, Joseph Garcia and Carlin Satterwhite, all tenants.

Garcia, whose wife is a desk clerk at the hotel, was with his 6-year-old son at the time. A nursing supervisor at San Francisco General Hospital said Sunday that he was in critical condition.

Bravard later went to his fourth-floor room and fatally shot himself.

On Sunday, the door to his room was covered with a piece of plywood. The blood in the lobby had been washed away. The only sign of what had happened was in the lobby, where there were three lit candles with the names of each of the victims.

"This is a very close community," said Thomas as he sat in the hotel lobby, a popular place for people to gather and gossip. Most of the tenants are disabled or senior citizens.

But everyone tried to steer clear of Bravard, 53, said to be a moody figure with a hair-trigger temper.

Residents say he was a Vietnam veteran who generally kept to himself, wearing his headphones and carrying his bicycle as he headed for a video store on Market, where he would spend most of his time.

Clarke said he could be very generous and had a 25-year-old son in the military of whom he was proud. "But he had a very dark side," she said. He used to brag to her that he was "trained in hand-to-hand combat."

"He had kind of an attitude," she said. But she said that she didn't evict him because he paid his rent on time and generally stayed away from people. "I knew not to mess with him," Clarke said.

Howard, 54, was the night clerk at the Hotel Vincent, which Clarke also manages. He was always buying her gifts -- vases, jewelry boxes and stuffed animals. He kept things in order and was strict with the rules, which ticked off some of the tenants who tried to sneak people into their rooms.

"The good tenants loved him," Clarke said. "The bad ones probably have mixed feelings." Although Howard was openly gay, she doesn't think that's what prompted Bravard to shoot him. "He was just a sweet man."

John Landas, who has lived at the Dalt Hotel for 10 years, said victim Satterwhite had been knocked down by Bravard about six months ago for no apparent reason. Landas said he and another tenant had reported Bravard to the police, but Bravard wasn't arrested.

Satterwhite was a large, gentle man from Georgia who received regular packages from his mother. "He didn't have a mean bone in his body," Landas said.

Williams, who liked to hang out with Howard, never had any run-ins with Bravard, according to Clarke. After spending years battling drugs and alcohol, Williams was finally starting to get his act together, tenants say, working as a cook at Glide Memorial Church.

Thomas said every Thursday night Williams would bring him a big batch of fried chicken. And he had just spent $300 on clothes for a trip to Reno today.

Tenants say they weren't surprised when they heard what Bravard had done.

"He was a disaster waiting to happen," Thomas said.

E-mail Harriet Chiang at hchiang@sfchronicle.com.


60 posted on 06/30/2003 10:49:52 AM PDT by csvset
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