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To: MississippiMan
This is exactly why so many are so puzzled as to why a president who professes born-again Christianity is so hellbent on defying God. The Bible is very, very clear on who the land belongs to.

See my earlier post; the Bible is clear, and it does NOT belong to modern Israel, unless they find salvation through Christ.

To suggest otherwise is to say that Jews and Christians worship the same God; from there you also have to say that Muslims do as well.

They don't; Chhristians worship the Triune God, one part of which is Jesus Christ. The Jews do not recognize Christ as the promised Messiah. Muslims recognize him as a prophet, but not the Messiah.

5 posted on 06/28/2003 9:17:42 AM PDT by Cacophonous
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To: Cacophonous
See my earlier post; the Bible is clear, and it does NOT belong to modern Israel, unless they find salvation through Christ.

Please provide evidence for you claim. God promised Israel a physical location in the Torah, stating a location that is even larger then if Israel has Judea, Samaria, and Gaza.

Genesis 15:18, "Unto thy seed have I given this land from the river of Egypt unto the great river, the river Euphrates."

Exodus 23:31, "and from the desert unto the river" (Euphrates); and again "from the river, the river Euphrates, even unto the uttermost sea shall your coast be."

Joshua 1:4, "From the wilderness and this Lebanon, even unto the great river, the river Euphrates, and all the land of the Hittites, and unto the great sea toward the going down of the sun, shall be your coast."

15 posted on 06/28/2003 10:59:20 AM PDT by yonif
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To: Cacophonous
I agree...It is also foretold that those in Israel who have not accepted Christ will embrace the Anti-Christ, being deceived by him they will sign the 7 year false peace treaty. The anti-christ will be admired through out the world and not hated as President Bush has become...

17 posted on 06/28/2003 11:07:37 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: Cacophonous
I believe very strongly that Jews and Christians have the same God. We believe the Messiah has come, they do not. Other than that, we have the same scriptures in the Old Test. that they do. Muslims however, do not have the same God in my opinion, not in the religion of Islam.
80 posted on 06/28/2003 10:29:32 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: Cacophonous
You can play around with what "is", is all you want. The fact is the Bible is very clear, the present inhabitants of Israel will be attacked by the entire world over who Jerusalem belongs to.

This will come about because the land has been divided. Do you really think the Palestinians will settle for their own state? Everything given these terrorists will be just one more step to what they want, Israel gone. Give them a state, they will want Jerusalem, give them Jerusalem, they will find something else to demand.

If you haven't read up, when the argument boils down to Jerusalem, everything hits the entire world hits the fan.
100 posted on 06/29/2003 10:59:52 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: Cacophonous
The Bible is CLEAR that Blood Israel WILL BECOME Believers in their TRUE MESSIAH.

You seem to indicate such is not likely, is impossible, or of no real special interest to God. I consider such a perspective Biblically ignorant.
141 posted on 07/01/2003 9:28:46 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Cacophonous
I have made it a point to read the entire thread as of 15:00 Tuesday, 1 July.

I would advise you to do more study and research before you make such sweeping remarks.
177 posted on 07/01/2003 12:07:11 PM PDT by Radix
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