Posted on 06/28/2003 8:49:26 AM PDT by yonif
Since its modern establishment, the state of Israel has been a hotbed of controversy. Jews and Palestinians have long battled over who should rightfully inhabit the land of Israel, a land promised to the Jews 4,000 years ago. In the Bible, the book of Genesis details the covenant God made with the descendants of Abraham.
"On that day, the Lord made a covenant with Abram, saying, 'to your descendants I have given this land, from the river of Egypt to the great river, the river of Euphrates.'" - Genesis 15:18.
For more than a decade, America has led attempts to settle that dispute, each time encouraging Israel to bring its covenant lands to the bargaining table, this time with the "Road Map" peace plan. Bible scholars say that may be a costly decision for the U.S. as America again stands at odds with God's covenant promise.
U.S. Consul General Jeffrey Feltman said, "What we need to do now is implement and focus on how we get the two sides back to a political process and towards the vision of a two-state solution: Israel and Palestine living side by side."
On April 30, 2003, America was positioned as the catalyst to jump-start the so-called "solution" to the Middle East crisis. As U.S.-backed Palestinian Prime Minister Mahmoud Abbas was sworn in, the "Road Map" peace plan was set in motion.
The very next day began the worst month of tornadoes in American history, more than 500 in a single month. Normally, 1,000 tornadoes hit the United States each year, but this year, in just eight days in May, 375 twisters ripped across the heartland of America.
While in Israel, Assistant Secretary of State William Burns told a group of left-wing activists that "common sense" would override the conservative and Christian viewpoints concerning the road map.
May 9th, 2003, President Bush addressed students at the University of South Carolina. Bush called on the Palestinians to embrace the road to peace, and see the flag of Palestine raised over a free nation.
Hours later, tornadoes returned and Oklahoma City again became the bulls-eye for deadly twisters, reducing what was left of businesses and homes to splinters and bricks. The tornadoes of May devastated the Midwest with the third worst property damage in American history. Since then, the Road Map has endured a rocky road to June, coinciding with what may be America's most rain-drenched spring in history.
On the East Coast there have been less than 10 rainless weekends the entire year. And in the West, certain crop-eating pests are having their best year in six decades amid dry conditions.
In the early stages of the Road Map peace process, weather catastrophe and recent violence in Israel have competed for the headlines. That violence coupled with America's own battles at home are leading some to question the Road Map. Is there a connection between dividing the Holy Land and utter disruption? Some Bible scholars think so.
In the book of Joel, God warns against dividing the land of Israel. Joel 3:1-2 says, "...I will enter into judgment with them there on behalf of my people and my inheritance, Israel, whom they have scattered among the nations; and they have divided up my land."
Bill Koenig, author of Israel: The Blessing or the Curse, said, "We know for a fact that God gave this land, through the Abrahamic covenant, He gave the land of Israel to Abraham, Isaac and Jacob and their descendants, and this land is God's land."
Koenig said the U.S. should not consider such chaos a coincidence. "These are warning signals, these are warning judgements to America that this is My covenant land and it's not to be traded for promises of peace and security. This land is not to be parceled," he said.
In the last 12 years, the U.S. has stepped up its efforts to pressure Israel to give up her covenant lands, several times sharing the spotlight with major storms.
On October 30, 1991, in a meeting scheduled by the first President Bush, Israelis and Palestinians discussed ways to achieve peace in the Middle East. Opening talks focused on trading the lands of Israel for a peace agreement.
That same day, thousands of miles away, a powerful storm was brewing off the coast of Nova Scotia. On October 31st, what would be called "The Perfect Storm" smashed into New England, pummeling the President's Kennebunkport, Maine home with waves 30 feet high. It was a storm so rare that the weather patterns required to create it only happen once every 100 years.
August 23rd, 1992, Middle East peace talks resumed in Washington, D.C. The issue remained surrendering the biblical lands of Judea and Samaria in exchange for peace. Hundreds of miles south, Florida was the target of the worst natural disaster in American history. Hurricane Andrew tore through with an eye more than 30 miles wide and winds up to 178 miles per hour leaving a $32 billion disaster.
Koenig said, "The world leaders have attempted to parcel the covenant land, so as Israel's property and land is at risk, so is the property of the nation that's promoting the peace process. And I might add that the greater the pressure on Israel to give up this property, the greater the repercussions and the greater the following events that take place afterwards."
In the Bible, the prophet Zechariah warned the nations that would come against Jerusalem. "On that day, when all the nations of the earth are gathered against her, I will make Jerusalem an immovable rock for all the nations. All who try to move it will injure themselves," says Zechariah 12:3.
Koenig said, "We have the nations of the world right now siding with the Arabs and the Muslims that are focused on the covenant land, but we know God is standing with the nation of Israel."
Is America playing a dangerous game? As the Road Map peace process encounters resistance, the Bush administration's determination to see it through has escalated.
Secretary of State Colin Powell said, "We have a plan, we have the commitment of leaders and now we have to execute that plan, keep moving forward and not allow ourselves to be distracted or thrown off point, from the promise that's out there with the Road Map, by this surge of violence. We've got to punch our way through it."
But, up against biblical prophecies, Koenig said America is standing against the very Word of God and should expect major obstacles.
"I believe the Lord will allow these events to happen that disrupt the peace process," he said. "As long as you are going to have a terrorist infrastructure that's allowed to co-exist in the nation Israel, we're going to have a problem."
And with those same terrorist groups opposed to America's brand of peace, the future of the Road Map is dim. Israelis maintain they will be relentless to protect their country while all plans to split up the tiny nation may be curbed.
Koenig said, "God loves the nation of Israel. He still, to this day, loves this nation. He is in hot pursuit of the people of Israel. Through these events, we look at the tragedies and we look at the trials, but God's trying to wake up the world."
Homosexual Groups Admit ‘10%’ Figure Is Wrong
Summary: In fighting to overturn a Texas law against homosexual sodomy, homosexual activists have quietly admitted that their claim that 10% of the population is homosexual is wrong.
In what will go down as one of the most underreported stories of the year, homosexual activists fighting against a sodomy law in Texas have admitted in a legal brief that 10% of the population is not homosexual.
The 10% claim has been used for more than 20 years to push the homosexual agenda—and to recruit public school children into the homosexual deathstyle.
The admission that the 10% figure is wrong appeared in an obscure footnote in a legal brief filed by a coalition of homosexual groups in the Lawrence v. Texas case now before the Supreme Court.
The coalition consisted of 31 groups including: Human Rights Campaign, National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, Parents, Families, & Friends of Lesbians and Gays, The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, and the People for the Way Foundation.
In a footnote on page 16 of this homosexual coalition’s legal brief, they admit that "2.8% percent of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."
Our thanks to the Family Research Council for pointing out this footnote and exposing the fact that homosexuals are finally telling the truth about their numbers. To read FRC’s analysis of this controversy, click here: Family Research Council: CultureFacts: Culture Facts - April 4, 2003
Read TVC’s Homosexual Urban Legend, published last year on this subject: Exposed: The Myth That "10% Are Homosexual".
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So dave, wrong on Bush not being in bed with homos, appointing them to positions of power and authority and wrong again on the % of homos in the U.S.. Dave, it's time to get real or if you are a homo get help! Visit Exodus International on the web. They've turned many a wayward homo around to lead the happy heterosexual life they were designed for. Denial of this is ludicrous.
Care to follow through on the Biblical perspective? ALL have fallen short however as followers of Christ we are to repent and sin no more. Have you seen homosexuals repenting and sinning no more? Or are they reveling in their sin and trying to nomalize it? Hmmmmm? Your best bet is to READ THE BIBLE in its entirety and not pick and chose what you wish to be gospel. When you do this, you misrepresent what is written.
"James 2:10 " For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." (Me again!) "
True but I repeat what is a Christian to do? Repent and sin no more? Hmmmm? Or revel in the sin and enlist others to sin with he/she such as in homosexuality?
"Perverted, but brilliant."
Really? LOL! I know quite a few gays and guess what? Some attempt to think, (not brilliant though), some are stupid, dumb, fat, skinny, feminine, masculine, black, white, asian etc.. So your observation isn't valid and bases its truth on gay propaganda. You've been duped.
"If we are going to lock out anyone who practices sin from working, then most likely, your very favorite congressperson would have to be done away with."
There you go again ... pointing to extremes to give validate your defending of gays. The issue is on gays and Bush appointing gays in positions of power and authority. Topic shift doesn't work with me. Ole George goes out of his way to put these demented souls in these positions. Their judgement is fatelly flawed by their "lifestyle choice".
"In fact, I doubt you'd have a job yourself."
And of course to end you little diatribe we have the personal ad hom. LOL! You couldn't raise me ire no matter how hard you try. Actually I pity you for being so blind.
Me:He's suggesting that this is normal and they are equal in judgement to those who are atleast heterosexuals.
You: So Newt Gingrich should have been tossed out on his ear when he told his wife (while she lay in her hospital bed) that he wanted a divorce? That seems very immoral to me. (I agree with Newt on politics, but this was an utterly distasteful act on his part.)
There we go again - topic shift when cornored. I suspect you're having a cyber tantrum and lost track of the topic. The topic is George Bush and his appointing of homos in positions of power and authority. Odd how you can't defend yourself and need to drag in unrelated issues as a distraction. The truth is it's tough to defend the undefendable, isn't it? About Newt, he was divorced BEFORE she became ill with cancer but truth doesn't matter to you.
Embryonic stem cell researh disagreement:
Me: COrrect - exisiting embryonic stem cells even though he LIED to conservative organizations through letters stating that he WOULD NOT okay this. Besides it is WRONG to do this to begin with. So, he blatently lied and compromised himself on embryonic stem cell research.
You: Sorry, we disagree on this. I don't see how it could be considered a lie. The concern was the destruction of embryoes to obtain their stem cells. With Bush's decision, that is not permitted.
Me: Sending out letters to conservative organizations reassuring them that he will NOT approve further research on this is lying. In writing, no less to multiple organizations ... .
You: Fine, don't vote for Bush next time. Who will it be? Dean? Kerry? Or will you simply not vote?
Did you stomp your feet when you wrote the above also? Sounds like you're a tad pissed at what the true pictrue of George Bush is and frustrated beyond words to defend the undefendable. Oh well ... Next comes more evidence of your lack of logic. If I'm disgusted with Bush and his LACK of Biblical conservatism, why in the world would I vote for a party that is out in the open with PRO gay rights, PRO abortion and anti-Biblical stands on any issue you can conjure up? Silly boy. YOU've amused me enough today with your silliness.
You are an absolute idiot. I've been using the 1 1/2 % figure since post #112. Even if the percentage is that small its still virtually impossible for Bush not to hire a handful of gays out of ten or twenty thousand he has hired for his administration. Unlike you, I cant imagine George Bush or Dick Cheeney asking someone who they sleep with in a job interview. Appointing Condi Rice doesnt mean that Bush is in bed with strong women or blacks. To care this much about what someone else is doing in their bedroom, you must be a latent queer. What is it, are you afraid that some Bush appointee is goign to seduce you?
No but then I havent seen you repenting and sinning no more either. For one who is not sinning, you have a very dark heart. Christ's number one commandment, love thy neighbor as thyself, seems to ellude you. Better repent some more.
Funny, but out West, there's still a drought. One can always find prophecy weather somewhere if one looks around hard enough.
No, it most certainly was NOT given to Ishmael's line, as has also been pointed out quite clearly in this thread. The Bible is crystal clear that the land was given to the Abraham/Isaac/Jacob line, NOT to Ishmael. Read post 54. Sim does an excellent job of summarizing the issue as presented by the Bible.
You're relying on a single verse out of context, in which it says Abraham and his descendants. What's key to understand in that one verse is that it does NOT say it is given to Abraham and ALL his descendants. It simply says "descendants." Then, as you continue to read what else God has to say on the issue, it is brilliantly clear which descendants it was given to.
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