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Acts of God: America's Warning Not to Divide Israel
CBN ^ | June 26, 2003 | Jennifer James

Posted on 06/28/2003 8:49:26 AM PDT by yonif

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To: MEGoody; nmh
Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" That is me !

James 2:10 " For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." (Me again!)


121 posted on 06/30/2003 11:19:18 AM PDT by OREALLY
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To: Dave S
Oh, dave ... wrong again on your estimate on gays in the U.S. population. The gay crowd who you apparently defend even admit that the 5-10% figure is wrong. It's just a tad exaggerated. Reference this thread on FR:

Homosexual Groups Admit ‘10%’ Figure Is Wrong

Summary: In fighting to overturn a Texas law against homosexual sodomy, homosexual activists have quietly admitted that their claim that 10% of the population is homosexual is wrong.

In what will go down as one of the most underreported stories of the year, homosexual activists fighting against a sodomy law in Texas have admitted in a legal brief that 10% of the population is not homosexual.

The 10% claim has been used for more than 20 years to push the homosexual agenda—and to recruit public school children into the homosexual deathstyle.

The admission that the 10% figure is wrong appeared in an obscure footnote in a legal brief filed by a coalition of homosexual groups in the Lawrence v. Texas case now before the Supreme Court.

The coalition consisted of 31 groups including: Human Rights Campaign, National Gay & Lesbian Task Force, Parents, Families, & Friends of Lesbians and Gays, The Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation, and the People for the Way Foundation.

In a footnote on page 16 of this homosexual coalition’s legal brief, they admit that "2.8% percent of the male, and 1.4% of the female, population identify themselves as gay, lesbian, or bisexual."

Our thanks to the Family Research Council for pointing out this footnote and exposing the fact that homosexuals are finally telling the truth about their numbers. To read FRC’s analysis of this controversy, click here: Family Research Council: CultureFacts: Culture Facts - April 4, 2003

Read TVC’s Homosexual Urban Legend, published last year on this subject: Exposed: The Myth That "10% Are Homosexual".

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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/910022/posts?page=2

So dave, wrong on Bush not being in bed with homos, appointing them to positions of power and authority and wrong again on the % of homos in the U.S.. Dave, it's time to get real or if you are a homo get help! Visit Exodus International on the web. They've turned many a wayward homo around to lead the happy heterosexual life they were designed for. Denial of this is ludicrous.

122 posted on 06/30/2003 11:31:26 AM PDT by nmh
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To: OREALLY
"Romans 3:23 "For all have sinned, and come short of the glory of God;" That is me ! "

Care to follow through on the Biblical perspective? ALL have fallen short however as followers of Christ we are to repent and sin no more. Have you seen homosexuals repenting and sinning no more? Or are they reveling in their sin and trying to nomalize it? Hmmmmm? Your best bet is to READ THE BIBLE in its entirety and not pick and chose what you wish to be gospel. When you do this, you misrepresent what is written.

"James 2:10 " For whosoever shall keep the whole law, and yet offend in one point, he is guilty of all." (Me again!) "

True but I repeat what is a Christian to do? Repent and sin no more? Hmmmm? Or revel in the sin and enlist others to sin with he/she such as in homosexuality?

123 posted on 06/30/2003 11:35:47 AM PDT by nmh
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To: MEGoody
"Using a little hyperbole there, fella? While you may think that all gays should be locked out of ever working, there are some brilliant ones out there.

"Perverted, but brilliant."

Really? LOL! I know quite a few gays and guess what? Some attempt to think, (not brilliant though), some are stupid, dumb, fat, skinny, feminine, masculine, black, white, asian etc.. So your observation isn't valid and bases its truth on gay propaganda. You've been duped.

"If we are going to lock out anyone who practices sin from working, then most likely, your very favorite congressperson would have to be done away with."

There you go again ... pointing to extremes to give validate your defending of gays. The issue is on gays and Bush appointing gays in positions of power and authority. Topic shift doesn't work with me. Ole George goes out of his way to put these demented souls in these positions. Their judgement is fatelly flawed by their "lifestyle choice".

"In fact, I doubt you'd have a job yourself."

And of course to end you little diatribe we have the personal ad hom. LOL! You couldn't raise me ire no matter how hard you try. Actually I pity you for being so blind.

124 posted on 06/30/2003 11:41:47 AM PDT by nmh
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To: MEGoody
Me: These are politically correct excuse and you know it. He appointed atleast TWO homos to postions of authority. COnsdiering that homos make up 1-2% of the ENTIRE population in the U.S., I'd say that is out of line." So you're talking quotas? I was talking appointing the best person for the job.He's suggesting that this is normal and they are equal in judgement to those who are atleast heterosexuals.

Me:He's suggesting that this is normal and they are equal in judgement to those who are atleast heterosexuals.

You: So Newt Gingrich should have been tossed out on his ear when he told his wife (while she lay in her hospital bed) that he wanted a divorce? That seems very immoral to me. (I agree with Newt on politics, but this was an utterly distasteful act on his part.)

There we go again - topic shift when cornored. I suspect you're having a cyber tantrum and lost track of the topic. The topic is George Bush and his appointing of homos in positions of power and authority. Odd how you can't defend yourself and need to drag in unrelated issues as a distraction. The truth is it's tough to defend the undefendable, isn't it? About Newt, he was divorced BEFORE she became ill with cancer but truth doesn't matter to you.

Embryonic stem cell researh disagreement:

Me: COrrect - exisiting embryonic stem cells even though he LIED to conservative organizations through letters stating that he WOULD NOT okay this. Besides it is WRONG to do this to begin with. So, he blatently lied and compromised himself on embryonic stem cell research.

You: Sorry, we disagree on this. I don't see how it could be considered a lie. The concern was the destruction of embryoes to obtain their stem cells. With Bush's decision, that is not permitted.

Me: Sending out letters to conservative organizations reassuring them that he will NOT approve further research on this is lying. In writing, no less to multiple organizations ... .

You: Fine, don't vote for Bush next time. Who will it be? Dean? Kerry? Or will you simply not vote?

Did you stomp your feet when you wrote the above also? Sounds like you're a tad pissed at what the true pictrue of George Bush is and frustrated beyond words to defend the undefendable. Oh well ... Next comes more evidence of your lack of logic. If I'm disgusted with Bush and his LACK of Biblical conservatism, why in the world would I vote for a party that is out in the open with PRO gay rights, PRO abortion and anti-Biblical stands on any issue you can conjure up? Silly boy. YOU've amused me enough today with your silliness.

125 posted on 06/30/2003 11:51:51 AM PDT by nmh
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To: MEGoody
Bush HAS control over who is appointed to what and the fact is that he insists on appointing gays to positions of authority and power over and above NORMAL heterosexual people who comprise the MAJORITY of the population. Why Bush goes out of his way to chose the abnormal, 1-2% of the gay population so they "feel good" about their stupid perverted lifestyle that is a choice. By doing this he attempts to NORMALIZE what is ABNORMAL - homosexuality. It sure DOES send a moral message out there. Unfortunately you're too worked up to see it and defend the undefendable.
126 posted on 06/30/2003 11:55:31 AM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh; MEGoody
Why are you so angry with me ? I have 'never' mentioned homosexuals on this thread and wasn't even thinking about them ! I was pointing a finger at myself, about judging other christians...I do not know the heart of man only God knows that...
127 posted on 06/30/2003 12:04:45 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: nmh
So dave, wrong on Bush not being in bed with homos, appointing them to positions of power and authority and wrong again on the % of homos in the U.S..

You are an absolute idiot. I've been using the 1 1/2 % figure since post #112. Even if the percentage is that small its still virtually impossible for Bush not to hire a handful of gays out of ten or twenty thousand he has hired for his administration. Unlike you, I cant imagine George Bush or Dick Cheeney asking someone who they sleep with in a job interview. Appointing Condi Rice doesnt mean that Bush is in bed with strong women or blacks. To care this much about what someone else is doing in their bedroom, you must be a latent queer. What is it, are you afraid that some Bush appointee is goign to seduce you?

128 posted on 06/30/2003 12:18:56 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: nmh
ALL have fallen short however as followers of Christ we are to repent and sin no more. Have you seen homosexuals repenting and sinning no more?

No but then I havent seen you repenting and sinning no more either. For one who is not sinning, you have a very dark heart. Christ's number one commandment, love thy neighbor as thyself, seems to ellude you. Better repent some more.

129 posted on 06/30/2003 12:22:06 PM PDT by Dave S
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
Yes, I agree. I think Bush needs to really seek God's opinion on this, not Mr. Powell's or any of his other cabinet members. We could be in deep doo if he gets them to divide Jerusalem.
130 posted on 06/30/2003 12:25:01 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: Thinkin' Gal
Excellent references. Thanks!
131 posted on 06/30/2003 12:26:12 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: yonif
The tornadoes of May devastated the Midwest with the third worst property damage in American history. Since then, the Road Map has endured a rocky road to June, coinciding with what may be America's most rain-drenched spring in history.

Funny, but out West, there's still a drought. One can always find prophecy weather somewhere if one looks around hard enough.

132 posted on 06/30/2003 12:28:09 PM PDT by dirtboy (Not enough words in FR taglines to adequately describe the dimensions of Hillary's thunderous thighs)
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To: MississippiMan
He's also a Methodist and I was one for many years even after being saved. You don't learn anything much in most Methodist Churches about salvation or about the Holy Spirit. Perhaps he needs the baptism of the Holy Spirit to receive the fullness of the Holy Spirit, as his guide and teacher. Many are born again. Not all are filled with the Holy Spirit. I personally believe that makes a great difference in how you live the Christian life.
133 posted on 06/30/2003 12:39:36 PM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: dirtboy
CBN is not fair and balanced...America is just one nation involved in the peace process...They didn't mention the natural disasters in the other counties involved in the peace process...As usual America gets all the blame !
134 posted on 06/30/2003 12:48:58 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: MEGoody
Actually, as was pointed out here earlier, it as given to Abraham and his descendents. Ishmael was one of them.

No, it most certainly was NOT given to Ishmael's line, as has also been pointed out quite clearly in this thread. The Bible is crystal clear that the land was given to the Abraham/Isaac/Jacob line, NOT to Ishmael. Read post 54. Sim does an excellent job of summarizing the issue as presented by the Bible.

You're relying on a single verse out of context, in which it says Abraham and his descendants. What's key to understand in that one verse is that it does NOT say it is given to Abraham and ALL his descendants. It simply says "descendants." Then, as you continue to read what else God has to say on the issue, it is brilliantly clear which descendants it was given to.

MM

135 posted on 06/30/2003 1:14:13 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Marysecretary
BTW, where does he attend church in Washington? Tell me it's not that same "church" that the Klintons went to.

MM

136 posted on 06/30/2003 1:14:59 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: Marysecretary
When we accept Christ we are filled with his spirit and complete....
I went to a pentacostal church and got to know people who claimed to have been baptised with the holy spirit...
They were some of the worst people I ever knew !
There have also been many pentacostal evangelist on T.V. that have been down right criminals and perverts ...
Just my opinion from my own life experiences as a born-again christian.
I also know many Methodist who truely love the lord, and Catholics, and Lutherans,and Baptists, and well it is a pretty long list...God knows who his children are and they go to many different churches. And they are God's church.
137 posted on 06/30/2003 1:25:20 PM PDT by OREALLY
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To: OREALLY
I know and agree with what you say. But the power to live the Christian life comes from the baptism of the Holy Spirit. When Christ comes to live in our lives, we get a deposit of the Holy Spirit but there is a fullness experience that we need as well. The early Christians received it at Pentecost. You will always find wierdos in every religion but they have to answer to God for their ways. There are, indeed, many born again Christians in all denominations. I was Methodist but found I had to leave. I'm in a good, solid, balanced pentacostal fellowship now and it's truly inspiring and biblically sound. Our pastor watches over his flock carefully and won't allow 'weirdness'. He's cautious, sometimes too cautious, but it serves us well. It doesn't matter in the long run what denomination you belong to. It's what you do with Jesus Christ that matters.
138 posted on 07/01/2003 6:07:49 AM PDT by Marysecretary (GOD is still in control!)
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To: yonif
Two prophetic sources--both of whom I respect--take opposite positions on this.

My own sense is that God is very jealous over Israel and will be very stern with any who undermine her or become fickle friends etc.

I believe we do ourselves hurt to play satan's game with the Palestinians.

I suspect Bush knows this as he has very Spirit-filled advisors close at hand.

There have been hints that we ought not believe at face value all the things going on politically even with regard to the Middle East. That Bush and others are working in unexpected ways underneath the surface news items.

I just hope he doesn't underestimate God's priority vis a vis Israel--and that he is not overly threatened etc. vis a vis the puppet masters.
139 posted on 07/01/2003 9:26:01 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Cacophonous
IMHO, any theological position that misses God's clear intent to use BOTH blood Israel and The Church just misses out wholesale on God's heart as well as His intent.
140 posted on 07/01/2003 9:27:22 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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