To: Prodigal Son
You must have me confused with someone else. I'm not yelling at you either. Congratulate you for enlisting,and totally agree with the 1st Iraq war situation and this past March being a continuation of that one. My cousin was an airforce f-15 pilot in the 1st and flew a number or sorties. Nuking Afghanistan is a bit overboard.
What I recall is saying that there was NEVER support for Afghanistan before 9/11. One reason being, that no one (but Amnesty Int'l) cared enough about what was going on there. Which is one of my major points. If the word doesn't get out in the media, ie: Rwanda, then horrific things can occur unnoticed by the rest of the world. It's too late after they've already occurred.
Should we do something about the Congo, Sudan, zimbabwe, YES. Do I think we're stretched too thin, Yes. Am I getting tired of hearing about American soldiers dying every day in N.Iraq? YES. Do I think we should send ships & soldiers back to the gulf, and stop messing around with these Iraqis in the north and just take them out, yes. Would getting rid of these murderers and thugs in the north make our job easier and maybe free up some military for sending elsewhere? I think so.
I'm not arguing AGAINST helping the Iranians because I want their message to get out. I want the media to grab onto this story and not let go (like they have the Peterson case and the windshield case). I want people to hear about it every morning, noon, and night.And then I want Bush to go on T.V. and tell the Mullahs that the world is watching them.; that the U.S. supports the demonstrators, and we will(because after watching for a week or 2 the American public will be convinced it's right) come to their aid if need be. Put the scare in them first. Stay out, see what happens. Try to get the Iranian people as involved as possible first. A massive uprising in stead of the hundreds or possibly a thousand now. If guns are necessary later, okay.
As I stated, NO UN debates. That's a waste of time. We agree.
To: nuconvert
What I recall is saying that there was NEVER support for Afghanistan before 9/11. Well, let me jog your memory a little bit. This is from your post number 65:
But as word FINALLY started reaching "the outside" about what was happpening under Taliban rule, the idea of going in a getting rid of them, grew in support.
I reviewed all your other posts and you don't contradict this anywhere. Perhaps I am misunderstanding you here but this is distinctly referring to pre 9/11 Afhganistan and the effect that reporting on the situation can have. The support that came after 9/11 had nothing to do with the evils of the Taliban becoming known to the public. It had to do with the fact that Afghanistan was where the bastards that killed Americans were living.
It's too late after they've already occurred.
You noticed that too huh? Well, if the Iranian students don't get their hands on some guns pretty soon, it might be too late for them as well.
Should we do something about the Congo, Sudan, zimbabwe, YES.
With what? And how? And at what cost?
I want the media to grab onto this story and not let go
That's fair enough.
Put the scare in them first. Stay out, see what happens.
Why not arm the Iranian opposition and let them put the scare into the mullahs? It's their country after all. See what happens sounds kinda like "poke it with a stick and see what happens". The Iranian people need a little bit more than political voyeurism in my opinion.
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