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To: LdSentinal
Mario Obledo: "We're going to take over all the political institutions of California. California is going to be a Hispanic state and anyone who doesn't like it should leave. If they [Anglos] don't like Mexicans, they ought to go back to Europe."

Hey Mario, if we leave, where will you get your wellfare and free medical? Hmmm? Where will you get clean water, UNDERGROUND sewers, roads that don't suck, people who show up on time for work and do a good job? Hmmm? I guess you will just have to follow us to Europe to escape the alternate $hithole you create. Then you can degrade Europe into a cesspool, too. Culture is everything, Mario, and you don't have it.
12 posted on 06/28/2003 12:50:49 AM PDT by Thorondir
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To: Thorondir
California has already lost the critical mass of productive citizens that are necessary to support the welfare state. The anti-business tactics of the state government are accelerating the exodus of business and employed people. Politically, the welfare class owns the ballot box. I don't think that will ever change. It was that critical observation that prompted my own exit in December 2000.
14 posted on 06/28/2003 12:59:59 AM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Thorondir
Hey Mario, if we leave, where will you get your wellfare and free medical? Hmmm?

Ya, once California becomes part of Mexico they'll just pick up and move North again to Oregon then Washington. Eventually they'll have to go up into Canada and discover thier nice socialist system.

17 posted on 06/28/2003 1:03:34 AM PDT by rmmcdaniell
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To: Thorondir
>>Culture is everything, Mario, and you don't have it.<<

2 words: Bell Gardens. For those of you not from SoKal, it is a city that had a government that was a complete latino majority. Inside of a year they had set up a corrupt patronage and crony system that would have been the envy of Tamany Hall. This is a latino thing and will follow them everywhere they go -- It was described as Mexico PRI-style politics. If Kalifornia becomes Atzlan, it will havs the same economics as Mexico, and then there WILL BE NO $$. And the illegal immigrants will try to get out of here!

Wait, maybe thats a good thing. But it will be a couple of generations and I don't want to wait. If we don't retake our state, I am so moving (and taking my 6 figure salary with me, which I can do because I am in an industry where my home doesn't matter).

32 posted on 06/28/2003 10:51:57 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Peace through Strength)
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To: Thorondir
Culture is everything, Mario, and you don't have it.

Oh, he's got culture, all right. The same culture that made Mexico a seething pit of crime and corruption. We have the Ford Foundation to thank for the likes of this low-life. And to think that Clinton gave this arrogant barnacle the Presidential medal of freedom. Sheesh.


Mario Obledo - Co-founder of MALDEF
June, 1998

"California is going to become a Hispanic state........"
"Eventually we will take over all the political institutions of California...."
[Tom Leykis Show]
 Listen to Obledo's rants

34 posted on 06/28/2003 11:07:04 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan (Stop the invasion. Put the military on the borders, round up illegals, and tell Fox to shove off.)
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To: Thorondir
Then you can degrade Europe into a cesspool, too

I thought Europe was already a cesspool. :)

39 posted on 06/28/2003 11:36:39 AM PDT by ReagansShinyHair
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