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In light of Toady's Supreme Court ruling will the incest law stand? Incest is a felony.
1 posted on 06/27/2003 2:18:43 AM PDT by loudmouths
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To: loudmouths
This is not a Washington Post/LA Times source, so excerpting is not required.


2 posted on 06/27/2003 2:49:52 AM PDT by hellinahandcart
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To: loudmouths
Your headline is missing a letter.

I assume you meant Goy.

3 posted on 06/27/2003 2:52:07 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: loudmouths; Admin Moderator
If you don't mind to fix the amputated headline, thanks :)
6 posted on 06/27/2003 3:04:28 AM PDT by visualops (Nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool.)
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To: loudmouths
Actually some states have toughened incest laws. As an example Arkansas this year upped the felony status of incest from a Class A felony to a Class Y felony (same felony level as rape). North Carolina also recently closed the "incest loophole". The problem is many states have laws that treat incest as a lesser crime than rape or abuse of a minor, due in part to old laws & statutes designed to discourage marriage among relatives, which have the effect of creating a loophole for child abusers within families.
9 posted on 06/27/2003 3:25:28 AM PDT by visualops (Nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool.)
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To: loudmouths
In light of Toady's Supreme Court ruling will the incest law stand?

How dare the state legislature pass laws against what individuals do in the privacy of their home! Have they never heard of the penumbra of the Constitution?

11 posted on 06/27/2003 3:27:51 AM PDT by Dajjal
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To: loudmouths
That's not to say of course that some sicko might think adults can do what they want in the bedroom with a relative. However, I do think that overwhelming public disgust will prevent incest from becoming legal, or one can at least hope :)
12 posted on 06/27/2003 3:30:06 AM PDT by visualops (Nothing is fool-proof to a talented fool.)
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To: loudmouths
Oy vey!
13 posted on 06/27/2003 3:37:25 AM PDT by paulklenk
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To: loudmouths
Boy suspected of committing incest
By MELISSA PINION-WHITT, Staff Writer

BLOOMINGTON - Sheriff's detectives investigating the circumstances behind a stillborn fetus found in an alley arrested a 17-year-old boy on suspicion of committing incest with his sister, the baby's mother.

The District Attorney's Office will determine whether the 22- year-old woman who gave birth to the male fetus also will be charged with incest, sheriff's officials said.

Incest is a felony.

"They're going to submit the criminal case and the coroner's report to the district attorney and let the DA determine if any charges will be filed,' said Cindy Beavers, spokeswoman for the San Bernardino County Sheriff's Department.

Children playing in an alley in the 18400 block of Ninth Street discovered the fetus, estimated by detectives to be three to five months short of full term, at 7:24 p.m. Monday, Beavers said.

Sheriff's deputies said the stillbirth had occurred more than nine hours earlier and that the mother, Jennifer Alvarez, left the fetus in the alley without telling anyone.

The 17-year-old, whose name was not released because of his age, was booked into Juvenile Hall.

County coroner's officials determined the fetus died of natural causes in the womb.

Relatives said they had no idea about the pregnancy and were even more shocked to learn of the alleged incest.

"I don't know what was going through her head,' said Roseanne Granillo, the siblings' aunt. "It's just shocking to me that she just had a baby in the back like that.'

Granillo said her niece and nephew had been in separate foster homes most of their lives. She said she began taking care of her niece three years ago when she left the foster care system.

Her niece and nephew saw each other twice a year when he received a pass to visit family members, Granillo said.

Family members discovered blood around the house Monday, but it wasn't until later in the day that Alvarez told them she had given birth, they said. She was taken to Kaiser Permanente Medical Center in Fontana fpr treatmment and later released. She remained at her aunt's home in the late afternoon.

Granillo, who talked while cleaning up behind the home on Tuesday, said the incident has been a strain on her family.

"You hear about a lot of things out in the world, and you don't expect it to happen to you,' she said. "It's just shattered my family.'


14 posted on 06/27/2003 4:02:27 AM PDT by heleny
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To: loudmouths
These kids need help, not prosecution. The screwed up government messed up their heads by keeping them in separate foster homes most of their lives, allowing the boy a "pass" to go visit his sister twice a year. Now the same screwed up government wants to prosecute them for having an abnormal sibling relationship. Well, gee, I wonder why they don't have a normal sibling relationship?

They are both at or above the age of consent, so this isn't a case of sexual exploitation of a helpless child. The government's further involvement should be limited to paying for these poor messed up kids to visit a shrink regularly.
17 posted on 06/27/2003 5:46:55 AM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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To: loudmouths; hellinahandcart; Lazamataz; A_perfect_lady; visualops; csvset; paulklenk; heleny; ...
The District Attorney's Office will determine whether the 22- year-old woman who gave birth to the male fetus also will be charged with incest, sheriff's officials said.


So, uh, you bust the 17-year old boy for incest,
but may not charge the 22-year old woman?  Does
this make any sense?

22 posted on 06/27/2003 12:35:17 PM PDT by gcruse (There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
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To: loudmouths
In light of Toady's Supreme Court ruling will the incest law stand?

According to the Supremes, what happens in the bedroom is a private matter protected by the Right to Privacy. So I guess it is OK.

23 posted on 06/27/2003 12:37:01 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: loudmouths
Remove his penumbra.
24 posted on 06/27/2003 12:38:52 PM PDT by Rightwing Conspiratr1
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oy suspected of committing incest

Psh. More Jew-bashing.

Dan
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25 posted on 06/27/2003 12:40:44 PM PDT by BibChr ("...behold, they have rejected the word of the LORD, so what wisdom is in them?" [Jer. 8:9])
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To: loudmouths
In light of Toady's Supreme Court ruling will the incest law stand? Incest is a felony.

Well, were they in the "privacy" of their own home when commiting the sexual act? I believe that Kennedy said that we cannot punish a certain class of people (in this case, I suppose, incest participants) because they have a different sexual lifestyle than heterosexuals.

I am telling you, we are going to be inundated with every sort of sexual activity, working it's way up the Supreme Court ladder, for years to come because of what they did yesterday. And, when they okay "gay marriage", it will get worse as the polygamy crowd, pederasts, incest couples, beastiality proponents; all get in line to say that they should have legal rights to their "sexual orientation" as well.

30 posted on 06/27/2003 2:16:41 PM PDT by LibertarianLiz
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To: loudmouths
Unfortunately all sexual sin is going to be overturned eventually with this SCOTUS decision. We are lurching towards gomorrah. Our days as a nation are truly numbered.
33 posted on 06/27/2003 2:29:11 PM PDT by ColdSteelTalon
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To: loudmouths
Of course not....

Who are we to impose our moral code on others....

They did 'it' in the privacy of their bedroom, so it is none of our business.

Dad and Adult Daughter, Mom and Son, Brother and Sister - all just a lifestyle choice.
37 posted on 06/27/2003 4:14:57 PM PDT by CyberCowboy777 (They promise to be good masters, but they mean to be masters.)
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To: loudmouths
Consensual sex between two people in the privacy of their own home, no one's business, move on. Fetus's have no rights, the right to an abortion is paramount. Let's move on.

Heaven is full of innocents and the reign of terror on earth continues ever more.

40 posted on 06/27/2003 4:24:14 PM PDT by PISANO
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