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Taxing retirement funds
TownHall.com ^ | Friday, June 27, 2003 | by Bruce Bartlett

Posted on 06/26/2003 9:44:01 PM PDT by JohnHuang2

One of the hottest documents circulating around Washington today is a highly technical, statistics-laden, 131-page paper by Hoover Institution economist Michael Boskin. First reported by Jim McTague in Barron's on June 16, it estimates that the taxation of pension assets, including Individual Retirement Accounts and 401(k) plans, will yield a $12 trillion (in today's dollars) windfall to the federal government between now and 2040.

Business Week followed up with a major story in its June 30 issue. It noted that if Boskin's numbers are correct, this unexpected revenue stream would make up the entire shortfall in Social Security and Medicare through 2040. This possibility led Rep. Jim Saxton, New Jersey Republican, to declare that gloom over the government's long-term fiscal imbalance is "exaggerated."

In truth, this news is not as much of a revelation as it might appear. I wrote about it 3 years ago based on research (cited by Boskin) by Dartmouth economist Jonathan Skinner. He calculated that, contrary to conventional wisdom, Individual Retirement Accounts actually made money for the federal government.

Skinner did not base his calculations on supply-side economics or anything like it. It was a simple matter of mathematics. Although the federal government loses revenue when people get a deduction for their contribution to an IRA or 401(k), and also loses revenue from nontaxation of annual returns, it gets all the money back plus interest when funds are withdrawn from such accounts and taxed at that time.

That is because the size of the accounts at withdrawal is much larger due to dividends, interest and capital gains, compounded over several decades. Even if one assumes that the tax loss from IRAs causes the deficit to rise, the government still comes out ahead because it borrows at the lowest interest rates possible.

If individuals just buy high-grade corporate bonds, the rate of return will be higher; if they buy corporate stock, the return will be much higher. Therefore, the government gets more than enough extra revenue to compensate for the revenue loss and the interest expense resulting from it.

All withdrawals from tax-deferred accounts except Roth IRAs are taxable and always have been. Moreover, if someone should die with a balance in their IRA (including Roth) or 401(k), their heirs must pay tax on it at ordinary income tax rates -- losing the benefit of lower tax rates on capital gains and dividends. This will be true even if the estate tax is abolished.

For this reason, financial planners suggest that tax-deferred saving may actually be a bad idea for some people. Normally, assets received from estates are tax-free to the recipient. But this is not true of receipts from tax-deferred accounts. Those assets are now taxed by the estate tax and also constitute taxable income to the heir.

Of course, the receipt of a large lump sum likely pushes most heirs into a higher tax bracket, so many will be taxed as if they are rich, if only for a single year. The point is that all IRAs and 401(k)s ultimately are taxed.

Based on standard mortality tables, historical rates of return, estimates of future contributions and current tax law, Boskin simply calculated the revenue from such withdrawals.

We can get a back-of-the envelope estimate of what Boskin did by looking at the total assets in tax-deferred accounts today, which amount to $10.5 trillion according to the Federal Reserve. These will generate about $3 trillion in tax revenue (in today's dollars) even if no one makes another contribution. This revenue stream will rise in future years by the same rate of return that individuals receive on their investments.

With new contributions of some $400 billion annually, $12 trillion in revenue between now and 2040 from taxing withdrawals actually seems like a rather conservative estimate.

Experts are already pouring over Boskin's numbers, and they may well be revised before he publishes his paper. The important thing is not the precise estimate, but the order of magnitude and the acknowledgement of a future revenue stream for the government that was previously unknown.

Actually, it was not unknown to the government's revenue estimators. It's just that they only calculate revenues out for 10 years, and much of the revenue Boskin projects will come later, after the baby boom generation retires.

In any case, there is no practical way of tapping that future revenue stream today. Moreover, the tax laws undoubtedly will change in future years to prevent the overall burden of taxation from rising, as Boskin assumes.

In conclusion, there is really no pot of gold out there that has suddenly been discovered that obviates the need to restructure Social Security and Medicare. Those programs are still actuarially unsound, and nothing in the Boskin paper changes that.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: retirees; retirementfunds; seniors; taxes
Friday, June 27, 2003

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1 posted on 06/26/2003 9:44:01 PM PDT by JohnHuang2
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To: JohnHuang2
I knew it. I just KNEW they were going to get around to this. My fear has always been that by the time I was ready to take out my 401K money, they would have instituted some kind of tax on it, and I bet they are going to do it. It's just too tempting - to be able to get their hands on all of that money. The dogs. When will promises made to the American people ever be lived up to?
2 posted on 06/26/2003 11:45:06 PM PDT by TruthNtegrity (God bless America, God bless President George W. Bush and God bless our Military!)
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To: JohnHuang2
Can you say "the invisible hand" The system works. 12 trillion in revenue from investments at marginal rates means that the owners and sellers of private property pay for the benefit of the system.

This while France is trying to figure out how to come back from the brink of self distruction and the English ask for conservatives to bring back law and order.

The reason there is a land of the free and the home of the brave is we let the invisable hand take its course while we enjoy peace and freedom as no other country in the world.

3 posted on 06/27/2003 4:50:22 AM PDT by q_an_a
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To: TruthNtegrity
I knew it. I just KNEW they were going to get around to this. My fear has always been that by the time I was ready to take out my 401K money, they would have instituted some kind of tax on it, and I bet they are going to do it. It's just too tempting - to be able to get their hands on all of that money. The dogs. When will promises made to the American people ever be lived up to?

Perhaps you should have read the tax law before contributing to your 401K if this really concerns you!

401K plans (and their various cousins such as 403B and others) have always been TAX DEFERRED, not TAX FREE. The value of these (as well as "traditional IRAs") plans is that you are able to reduce your taxable income while working and contributing then, when you draw the money out in retirement, you (typically) are in a lower tax bracket.

There is no free lunch here!

The ROTH IRA (and its cousins) is a different breed in which you don't get any tax benefits up front but when you draw the money out in retirement it (for now at least) is totally tax free (including whatever the account earned over the years).

Save you outrage for the day that the guv'mint institutes a "wealth tax" to pay its mountain of obligations! At that point it will renege on prior promises not to tax ROTH IRA benefits. Also, at that point, your 401K contributions will probably be taxed at a much higher rate than the rate in effect when you made your "tax deferred" contributions!

4 posted on 06/27/2003 5:11:10 AM PDT by ExSES
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To: TruthNtegrity
If you realluy want to lose your lunch, please consider this. The law governing 401-K's states that you MUST begin withdrawing money at age 72. If you do not (let us say you are still working) there is a tax of 50% on the undrawn amount.

How do you like that one?

Regards,

5 posted on 06/27/2003 5:50:23 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: JohnHuang2
So maybe taxes on tax-deferred income won't save Social Security, but surely economic growth, if that occurs, will.
6 posted on 06/27/2003 5:56:08 AM PDT by aristeides
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To: ExSES
The ROTH IRA (and its cousins) is a different breed in which you don't get any tax benefits up front but when you draw the money out in retirement it (for now at least) is totally tax free (including whatever the account earned over the years).

That's why I like the ROTH IRA. Getting past all the analysts hand-wringing about figuring it out, the simple fact is if I can pay the tax on something now and I'm guarenteed that BigBrother can't finagle how I'm taxed on it, that's to my advantage.

I would think it would be easier to justify changing the rules on taxing deferred accounts, where people haven't met their obligation.

A really out-of-control government would take a percentage of accumulated wealth in those accounts or add another expense to an already-paid obligation.

7 posted on 06/27/2003 5:59:28 AM PDT by grania ("Won't get fooled again")
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