Ann Coulter Sends ABC's THE VIEW CREW Into a Tizzy (Transcript)

MRC ^ | Thursday June 26, 2003 | BrentBaker

[fight_truth_decay]

The MRC's Jessica Anderson took down a hunk of the gabfest at the beginning of the June 25 The View, ABC's daytime show created by Barbara Walters, for whom Coulter was filling in.

Meredith Vieira explained: “In your last book you said liberals have been wrong about everything in last half century. You ticked us off over that one, alright. And now in this new bok you say that liberals hate freedom...I want to talk about your politics because in Treason you say, yes, that liberals hate America."

Ann Coulter: "Right."

Vieira: "Well, it's stupid. What do you mean liberals hate America?"

Coulter: "Well, for one thing, I mean, part of the point of my book is to get back to asking that question. I mean, I find it interesting that that is the one thing we cannot talk about: which party is more patriotic, the relative patriotism. Liberals, Democrats feel perfectly comfortable saying that Republicans are not as good on civil rights, on civil liberties, they aren't as good on women's issues. Why is the one issue that is simply off the table for debate, the relative patriotism of the two parties? Let's at least get back into that debate again. Surely you can acknowledge that it is possible to be more or less patriotic?"

Vieira: "Based on what?"
Joy Behar: "Yeah, based on what?"
Coulter: "Based on, for example, the burning hatred of the American flag from the left. I mean, that is how liberals describe someone they want to denounce; they cite his affection for the flag, 'flag-waving yahoos.'"
Star Jones: "I love the flag. I'm a card-carrying Democrat." [Audience member yells "Woo!" at this declaration, at which point the audience begins to applaud as Jones continues]
Jones: "My biggest, the biggest, most wonderful thing in my life is my citizenship, so that's one down -- keep going. I love the flag!"
Coulter: "It could well be that you belong to the–" Vieira: "But some people wrap themselves in the flag -- I mean, that's what some liberals are against, to argue their point."
Behar: "Yeah, but they cover up their evil with the flag, and that is a sin."
Vieira: "Just like McCarthy: 'I'm just being patriotic.'"
Behar: "Yeah."
Coulter: "Well, that's why much of my book discusses McCarthy. I mean, this is how liberals have taken this issue off the table."
Behar: "We're not talking about the dummy and the ventriloquist, Charlie McCarthy."
Vieira: "Eugene."
Behar: "We're talking about Eugene McCarthy who was a senator.
Coulter: "Joe McCarthy."
Vieira: "Joe McCarthy, Joe McCarthy – sorry, that's what I said."
Coulter: "Eugene was your guy!"
Jones: "Actually, you talk about some of the myths that go along with this whole concept of McCarthyism, which is [trails off]"
Coulter: "Right, is going to be stunning and most people are going to be shocked when they hear that because he is perhaps the most demonized person in American history, but, I mean, that is part of my thesis of how this was taken off the table."
Behar: "No, no, no, Nixon! Nixon! I vote for Nixon."
Coulter: "And I'll give you – you raise an interesting point – I'll give you three more. I think the most reviled men in American history, to the extent they're remembered, are Whitaker Chambers, Joe McCarthy, J. Edgar Hoover, Richard Nixon, and Ronald Reagan, the five men who did the most to defeat Soviet totalitarianism. I think that's not an accident." Behar: "You see, J. Edgar Hoover, that's an example of somebody who could be construed as a hypocrite: homophobic, and yet wearing ladies clothing."
Vieira: "Exactly."
Behar, continuing: "And wraps himself in the flag."
Vieira: "Absolutely."
Behar: "So that's why people say that he's–"
Coulter: "In fact, I think that is the hypocrisy of the left, constantly gay-baiting people they don't like."
Behar: "What?!" Coulter: "There is no evidence that J. Edgar Hoover was a cross-dresser. I think he was gay."
Behar: "Oh, yes, I saw him in Chico's in 1965! Oh, yeah!"
Vieira, pointing to Coulter: "In fact, he had on your skirt. If I remember correctly, he was wearing that skirt."
Behar: "On his head!"
Vieira: "Let's talk about what's going on right now in the news with the weapons of mass destruction."
Coulter: "I think you were confusing him with Hillary Clinton."

[Audience Oooooooooh's in response]

Vieira, turning to the audience: "Oh, come on! Give her a break!"
Coulter, also to the audience: "Whoa! You guys gay bait everybody you don't like -- I make one shot, and that's over the line."

[for those who argued on another post the actual words:] During a discussion of a study that claims women are as sexually aroused by pornography featuring two women or a man and a woman:

Behar: "Do you like to watch two women getting it on?"
Coulter: "Uh, no. The last time I did was the Katie Couric interview with Hillary Clinton."
[Audience Ooooooooh's, with some applause and laughing]
Coulter: "Other than that, I have no experience with two women having sex."
An appalled Jones: "Are you taking a dig at Katie? Are you taking a dig at Katie?"
Behar: "You notice she didn't say Barbara Walters. She's not that stupid!"

Finally, at the very end of the show, Jones related how she and Coulter were arguing during the just-ended ad break: “She was just taking another dig at Hillary Clinton. Mad because she sold 600,000 books.” Jones then started sing-songing to Coulter, with the syllables stretched out: “Hater. Hater.”

Or, it could have been “hate her, hate her,” but it sounded more like “hate-err,” so “hater.”

[My2Cents]

You hit on a key truth. Why did the left hate Nixon? 1) He built his career on anti-Communism (as Ann Coulter points out). And 2) (just as big a reason) he was a Republican.

[xlib]

2 things come to mind: his debate (as VP) with Khruschev (sp?) and the diplomatic opening to China, which helped to weaken the USSR.

[nickcarraway]

The former is an interesting point. How did the second help, though?

[stimpyone]

hackworth is a liberal? You are kidding, right?

[stimpyone]

So then Nixon reviled himself, given that he was far to the left of Bill Clinton. OK. My point still stands, Coulter's argument has no basis in fact.

Nixon was a leftist, he can't be reviled by the left unless he reviled himself.

And to say that those on the left aren't patriotic is a slap in the face to folks on the left who gave their lives to defend our freedom. Look, I hate the policies of the left, but it is idiotic to suggest that folks like John Kerrey, Daniel Inoue, and others who fought for their country are guilty of committing treason and aren't patriotic. Books like Coulter, on the whole, do a disservice to Conservatives. You don't see folks like Will, Saffire or Buckley resorting to such inflamatory rhetoric. We can disagree with our "friends" on the left without resorting to this kind of drivel.

[tutstar]

ping

[OldFriend]

Since his best buddy is Gen. Shinseki what other conclusion can be drawn?

[stimpyone]

Gen. Shineki - isn't he the guy that was villified by daring to suggest that Wolfowitz was wrong on the size and scope of an occupation force needed in Iraq? Hmm, who was right?

(Yes, Shinseki should be court marshalled over the beret issue).

[gitmo]

[OldFriend]

Shinseki spent the entire war criticizing Franks and Rumsfeld. He's been a lame duck who has refused to leave.

Backstabbing in public is unbecoming an officer........but that's just my opinion. I would prefer that our troops not be subjected to jealous rants when they are risking their lives.

[My2Cents]

OK, Nixon was a leftist...and you're stuck in an intellectual rut. The fact you can't grasp my point -- actually the point Ann Coulter has made -- indicates the futility of continuing this exchange. Good-bye.

[chasio649]

Sean Hannity has become an embarassment...he is definitely an example of the peter principle.

[Kevin Curry]

Jones is the biggest wind bag on the planet, . . .

A human whoopee cushion.

[OldFriend]

Sadly enough I hve to agree with the comment made by a freeper. Sean's written more books than he's read.

He seems to think tired old rhetoric beats research on the topic at hand.

[chasio649]

I tried to read his book....that's when the light turned on for me. He doesn't have an original thought in his head. I guess i have really become disgusted with the whole bunch...O'Reilly, Sean, Rush, Coulter etc....They just seem like shysters looking to write or say something with a hook that people want to hear... maybe i shouldn't be that way...i remember a time when conservative rantings were hard to come by....i am just leery about a lot of them. I question Dennis Miller's miraculous conversion from the dark side. I have at least lived long enough to see that people who throw too many rocks usually get taken down a notch...hence Coulter.

[BabsC]

REPEAL THE NINETEENTH AMENDMENT!
and
REPEAL THE SIXTEENTH AMENDMENT!
and
REPEAL THE SEVENTEENTH AMENDMENT!

[jimmbo5]

I love Ann also.Talk about an attack.Can’t stand Whoppi and Joy, and Barbra is starting to sound just like them.They are part of the problem that this country is facing.It is no longer popular to stand up for your Christian beliefs or your country.Praise the gay, single mother liberal life style.The only reason I would watch the show is for Elizabeth.