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Surprise: ACC Invites Only Miami, Va. Tech
CollegeSports.com | 6-20-03

Posted on 06/25/2003 3:25:59 AM PDT by putupon

June 24, 2003

GREENSBORO, N.C. (AP) -- The Atlantic Coast Conference has decided to pursue a two-team expansion, one that would add Miami and Virginia Tech, a high-ranking league source said Tuesday night.

After a 2 1/2-hour conference call, ACC commissioner John Swofford refused to comment on whether Miami and Virginia Tech -- the Big East's two dominant football schools -- had been offered invitations to join.

"We're very close to bringing this to a conclusion. I would expect us to have an announcement in the next couple of days," Swofford said.

The Washington Post and USA Today, quoting anonymous sources, reported on their Web sites that the ACC voted to extend invitations to Miami and Virginia Tech, and that Syracuse and Boston College were not included.

The league source, speaking on condition of anonymity, told The Associated Press that the league presidents decided that the only way expansion would work is if Miami and Virginia Tech joined what would become an 11-team conference. The source also said ACC presidents no longer expect Syracuse and Boston College to be part of the expansion process.

"We're very close to being at the end of this," Swofford told reporters outside ACC headquarters.

He said the ACC presidents do not have another teleconference scheduled.

"Each conference call has taken us a step further and this was the closest one to the end," he said.

Asked whether the reports on Miami and Virginia Tech were accurate, Swofford said he wouldn't comment on "reports and speculation until we're ready to make a definite announcement as to where we are."

The ACC presidents voted to expand on May 13, and conference officials visited Miami, Boston College and Syracuse to assess their facilities. Virginia Tech came into the picture last week, as part of a compromise suggested by Virginia president John T. Casteen III.

Virginia Tech was one of five Big East football schools who filed a lawsuit June 6 to try to stop BC, Miami and Syracuse from leaving the conference. Connecticut, Pittsburgh, Rutgers and West Virginia were the other parties to the suit.

A Connecticut judge is scheduled to hear preliminary arguments Thursday in the suit.

In Tallahassee, Florida Attorney General Charlie Crist said Tuesday he's prepared to intervene on behalf of Miami in the suit. Crist said Miami has the right to choose the conference it wants to play in.

"This is a fundamental dispute among athletic conferences and universities," said Crist, who was asked by Miami to intercede. "Universities have the right to join any conference that invites them. The law does not compel Miami, or any institution, to rebuff a legitimate overture, as long as existing contractual obligations are satisfied."

If the ACC expands to 11 members, it would be one short of the number necessary to hold a football conference championship game.

Tuesday's conference call was the fifth time in two weeks that the presidents met via phone as they tried to finalize possible expansion. Such an expansion could lead to a lucrative conference football title game on television.


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Virginia Tech was one of five Big East football schools who filed a lawsuit June 6 to try to stop BC, Miami and Syracuse from leaving the conference.

So Mark Warner, Gov. and Jerry Kilgore, AG of Virginia are involved in suing the ACC and the team he represents are expected to do exactly what he and they are suing for. Can you can HYPOCRISY? I thought you could.

Virginia Tech came into the picture last week, as part of a compromise suggested by Virginia president John T. Casteen III.

Turkeyspit, strong armed by government thugs, who feel that the Constitution gives them the right to relegate football conference memberships, Casteen performed what a government lackey does best, doing what he's told instead of looking after the best interests of the institution he's supposed to be working for.

1 posted on 06/25/2003 3:26:00 AM PDT by putupon
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To: putupon
What do you expect from the president of a university full of deconstuctionists and commies? Mr. Jefferson is rolling over in his grave after seeing what is going on at UVA.
2 posted on 06/25/2003 3:39:16 AM PDT by GaConfed
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To: putupon
Suggested arm bands for BC and Syracuse. "Rejects of the ACC"

For VT, "Every whore has a price"

For UVA, "By God we got them in but we don't have to talk to them, do we?"

For Miami, "We raised the crime rate in the ACC"

3 posted on 06/25/2003 3:51:39 AM PDT by doosee
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To: putupon
The best quote I've heard on this matter is, "All dirt roads lead to Virginia Tech."

4 posted on 06/25/2003 3:57:42 AM PDT by looois
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To: putupon
I've wanted Kentucky and Florida State to swap conferences (not that its likely) since FSU joined the ACC. It would be a better fit for both schools. Kentucky would be in a conference where it could compete in football and have competition in basketball. FSU gets a much better football conference and fit it well for basketball with the other SEC schools. And then there's the geography factor. Because of air travel it's not much of a factor anymore for the teams themselves, but it is a factor for the fans.
5 posted on 06/25/2003 4:13:56 AM PDT by libertylover (Former pro-choicer)
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To: Al B.
bmp
6 posted on 06/25/2003 5:12:33 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: HalfFull
Hokie High finally gets their wish.

Va. politicians flexed their muscles real good on this vital issue. LOL.

7 posted on 06/25/2003 5:48:15 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: Al B.
Well we need at least one more school that plays good football besides UVA and Fla State!
8 posted on 06/25/2003 5:51:19 AM PDT by HalfFull
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To: HalfFull
We got one -- Miami! :-)
9 posted on 06/25/2003 5:55:15 AM PDT by Al B.
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To: putupon; AppyPappy; Coop

The Whine-Hoos react to the latest ACC announcement.

10 posted on 06/25/2003 7:31:10 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Corin Stormhands
We don't need to cry, ya'll said just last week you would't accept an offer to leave your Beloved Big East bretheren.

I believe the word "integrity" was even used, and we all know how much of that they have in Bleakborg.

Besides, you don't want your boys Wormer and Kilgore to add ya'll to the lawsuit, do you?

What a bunch of dummies they are in at the end of the long dirt road to B'Berg, all they had to do was keep their mouths shut (the thugs from the government already had it worked out), and you could slipped into the conference w/o tipping off the rest of the football world what a crowd of two faced lowlifes are running the govt and universities in our besmirched and stained Commonwealth.

11 posted on 06/25/2003 7:47:29 AM PDT by putupon (ain't nuthin' but the truth)
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To: putupon
Call yourself a WAAAHHHmbulance sweetheart. The ACC schools like having a school they can reach so they can watch their basketball teams stomp someone in an empty coliseum. That's VT. SO they get smacked around in football. They are used to that.
12 posted on 06/25/2003 10:59:27 AM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: putupon
This will raise the average intelligence in BOTH conferences.
13 posted on 06/25/2003 11:05:54 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Exerpt from The Hive, GT (the only school in the ACC that likes Vippi Sue) Football message board:

The averages below are a combined average of SAT math and verbal looking at % of students scoring over 600 on the section.

The ACC currently has Duke at top (91%), GT(84%), WFU(81%), UVA(79.5%), MD(65%), and UNC(65%).

BC would place in a tie for fourth with UVA at 79.5%.Vandy would be fifth in the ACC with a 79.0%

Bottom scores for each conference? FSU(38.5%), VT(41.5%), Auburn(27.0%), Alabama(29.5%), SC(29.5%), and TN(32%).

14 posted on 06/25/2003 1:49:10 PM PDT by putupon (ain't nuthin' but the truth)
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To: putupon
UVA(79.5%),

What did Ahmad Brooks score?

15 posted on 06/25/2003 1:53:01 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: AppyPappy
Win once at basketball and Martha thinks she can hang w/ the big dogs on the hardwood? What are ya'll planning on paying more than minimum wage for yer new coach w/ the lawsuit money?

As for the gridiron, Vippy Sue will be introduced to this season's ACC champions on 11-29.

Of course, with ya'lls new found new found big gov't. court regulated football, I'm sure it'll be no problem getting any losing scores reversed in the courts.

So bring yer stupid bucket full of guano, yer stupid nutless chicken mascot, yer goofy key chains, yer chicken cluckers, and yer Vicks and assorted pricks, and we'll give ya'll a little dose of what yer in for in the long term. No more Temple, Rutgers, JMU cake walks for Martha in a few years.

You'll still get the Tarholes and Puke every season though, give you a little taste of the good 'ol days playing Beamerwithnoballs schedules.

But for his own good, leave that sloppy lowlife who couldn't hold his likker and fell over dumping a full large size stadium cup of scotch down my arm. I cut him a little slack in '01 because we really never expected any class out of ya'll in the first place, but since Martha wants to hang out with the civilized folk now, we expect a little bit better behaviour.

No kidding, that sloppy drunk shows up again and spills more likker on me, you'll find him on the ground in front of the tunnel entrance on the home side. Thats where my seats are in the front row, a short distance from a short railing.

AND ANOTHER THING:

Ya'll will never be true members of the ACC, you're just our cousin Elmer from the hills who the courts ordered us to take custody of. The ugly, unwanted step children with questionable parentage of the ACC.

Is it any coincidence that after fifty years, the govt thugs order us to take custody on the same day the Supreme Court upheld quotas for the disadvantaged at Univ of Mich?

I think not.

16 posted on 06/25/2003 2:34:11 PM PDT by putupon (ain't nuthin' but the truth)
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To: putupon
600 is the COMBINED score? Surely not. Duke has 9% with a combined score below that? There couldn't be that many basketball players.

What was Syracuse's score?
17 posted on 06/25/2003 2:47:05 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: justshutupandtakeit
600 is the COMBINED score?

I think that the article meant 600 on each section, so for example 91% of Duke students scored above a 1200 on the SAT.

18 posted on 06/25/2003 3:06:09 PM PDT by LWalk18
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To: Corin Stormhands
I hope VT tells the ACC to pound sand.
19 posted on 06/26/2003 5:37:33 AM PDT by Coop (God bless our troops!)
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To: LWalk18
I couldn't imagine that it was 600 combined.
20 posted on 06/26/2003 7:48:10 AM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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