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Defending Harry Potter
WorldNetDaily ^ | 6/21/03 | Joel Miller

Posted on 06/23/2003 7:13:28 AM PDT by Xenalyte

If provoking others to sneer is your thing, I've got the trick: Just walk into a room of Christians and say, "I love Harry Potter!" It works like magic.

Take the case of Beliefnet writer Anne Morse, who has taken it on the chin for her support of J.K. Rowling's series of children's novels centered on the muss-haired, bespectacled boy wizard.

"Dear Ms. Morse," one reader began, "You are the handmaiden of Satan, a succubus from the pit of Hell." I suppose few folks ever win points for timidity, but isn't this going too far?

The four Potter novels I've read have been very well written. The characters have deepened and grown considerably since book 1, making their continued stories of great interest. Rowling's humor works, and her sense of pace is nearly perfect. As the plots gain complexity from book to book, this is especially important. Rowling carried off the 700-plus pages of book 4 with hardly a bump – unless we're talking about "witchcraft."

Sure to trip up at least some Christian readers (Frank Sinatra did say it was "strictly taboo"), I put the term in scare-quotes because the kind of "witchcraft" you get in the Potter novels is like the stuff you get from the green lady with the warty nose in the old Bugs Bunny cartoons.

My wife, a Wiccan before converting to Christianity, can well attest to the fact that flying broomsticks, wands, magic potions and the like are all, for lack of a better term, hocus-pocus. The use of these items in the Potter novels is pure fantasy and fancy.

Rowling ties some of the "magic" to the darker arts, sure, but that is only to create the necessary evil in the story. No conflict, no story. No bad guys, snore. In the end, the type of "magic" used in Harry Potter is no more diabolical than the so-called "magic" of the Tolkien or Lewis stories. (Note also a few other great Christian novelists who use "magic" to entertaining ends: Charles Williams, George MacDonald, Stephen R. Lawhead.)

What's more, Douglas Jones, senior editor of evangelical culture-and-thought magazine Credenda/Agenda, makes an insightful argument about the general shape of worldviews and the hat-tip that Potter – however unconsciously – makes toward Christianity, not against it:

One of the most overlooked features of modern stories like the Potter series is their implicit confession of the triumph of Christianity. This compliment to Christianity is not just the fact that the Potter stories are decidedly Christ-figure stories – an elect son, threatened at birth, who sacrifices His life for his friends and triumphs over evil in an underworld, even coming back from death for a feast. Those narrative categories are complimentary enough, but the deeper compliment is the story's use of a Christian psychology. In its generic sense, a psychology is just a worldview's characteristic way of interacting with life. There is a distinctive Christian psychology, a Hellenistic psychology, a modernist psychology, a postmodern psychology, a Wiccan psychology, and so on. The Potter characters could have been written with any of these. They could have acted like those resentful infant-adults of the Iliad; they could have had the psychology of ancient druids. But they don't. Instead, the Potter stories give us largely Christianized witches, witches who have fully absorbed Christian ethical categories: love, kindness, hope, loyalty, hierarchy, community, and more.

Young Potter and his friends learn the importance of bravery, self-sacrifice, duty and defending the weak. And the story portrays a striking moral divide.

Take just the first novel: The lie of the main antagonist, Voldemort, spoken through an enslaved professor from Potter's school, is that "There is no good or evil, there is only power, and those too weak to pursue it." Harry knows the truth and fights to the point of death to keep Voldemort from seizing the power he desires.

On a more minor scale, The Mirror of Erised ("Desire" backwards) teaches a lesson about covetousness, contentment and spending too much time wishing after things wanted instead of going out and actually doing.

Some have complained about Potter's disrespect for authority and how he is seemingly rewarded for breaking school rules. This is poppycock. Rowling puts Harry into situations that make for good storytelling: The rule says one thing, but not confronting the danger lurking around the corner is far worse than the consequences of breaking the rule. The dilemma creates the tension that motivates the character. Moral and ethical dilemmas are what make or break stories. In short, Harry isn't rewarded for breaking rules; he's rewarded for sacrificing himself, saving lives and fighting evil.

What about the danger that people will miss the obvious moral message and heroism and succumb instead to the supposed proselytizing for paganism? Jones has the blunt instrument: "Harry Potter can't be a threat. Wizardry doesn't really work. And if your kids are really tempted to join a coven, then it's not a giant leap to say that you've failed miserably as a parent."

This may be too general a statement, but I think it's generally true: The morality of the Harry Potter novels is impossible to miss; the immorality has to be blown out of proportion or imported entirely.

Perhaps instead of railing, my fellow Christians should start reading. The Potter novels certainly get many things wrong, but they get a lot of things right, and if we are discerning, we can learn from both.


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To: discostu
"If they just said "I don't want to read the books, nor will I allow my children to" that would be one thing. But they don't. Their answer is to claim the books are evil and lead to paganism and satan and therefore those that read them are evil. Just look at the original article, there are people describing others as "handmaiden of satan"m that's not mere disapproval, that's a direct attack on people's character. Not to mention that the same song and dance gets played every few years about something and there's a a large group of us that are just damned sick of being told we're dupes of satan by clowns that can't find their rearends with both hands a map and a sherpa."

The reverse is said about people like myself. I THOROUGHLY disapprove os Harry Potter. I believe what you say wbout Harry Potter books being evil etc.. If you want to view that as an attack on ones character, so be it. You attack the character of those against it when you mock their disapproval of Harry Potter. You outrightly villify those who disapporve of Harry Potter.

As for me, I don't let others determine my values and beliefs ... I too get tired of ridicule when I voice my disapproval of Harry Potter ... I don't like my "character" being attacked however, I don't have to account to mere fallible mortals. I;d rather error on the side of caution. I see what's going on out there an don't want to take any chances. I DO see an increase in witchcraft from Harry Potters influence. More inportantly, who I seek for values and beliefs, clearly disapproves of Harry Potter type entertainment.

So now you know how people like me feel when attacked. Again, if you wish to read Harry Potter, it's fine with me however don't silence others and get all sensitive when they don't agree with you. It's really just like any other issue ... some are pro abortion ... some are not. I'd rather error on caution and am against abortion. See what I mean? It just depends on what one uses as their guide for values and beliefs. For me it is the Bible. I can't deny what it written. Yet, I'm not forcing that on you.

181 posted on 06/23/2003 2:24:40 PM PDT by nmh
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To: nmh
I DO see an increase in witchcraft from Harry Potters influence.

Where are all these alleged witches? I don't see anyone flying around on a broom (a la Potter), or working spells with wands and incantations (a la Potter), or even seeing things in a crystal ball (a la Potter).

I'm quite interested in finding someone who's managed to make the Potter brand of magic work. So far, I've heard several posters claiming to "know there are more witches out there now," but they can't point me to a one.
182 posted on 06/23/2003 2:28:14 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Can I be a roadie?
183 posted on 06/23/2003 2:28:43 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: discostu
All people against Harry Potter, from my camp (Christian) are doing is not just saying their against it but like I did, WHY they are against it and what their source is for being against it. While I didn't get caught up in verses, I give you the source, the Bible.

Again, like any other issue, such as abortion ... those against it may cite Christian reasons and verses and those for it like to explain why through "compassion" reasons and it typically gets debated from there. For me, I can't imagine ANY compassion in mutilating and unborn baby. It's a hideous act and violates the Bible.

Lastly am I better than YOU? Absolutely NOT. Just trying to live a right life to the best of my ability. We simply disagree on the topic of Harry Potter.

184 posted on 06/23/2003 2:28:45 PM PDT by nmh
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To: Liberal Classic
Can I be a roadie?

Sure, as long as you understand that I can't sing as well as Christina. Hell, I can't sing as well as Dee.

My alleged singing voice can drop a bird at a hundred yards.
185 posted on 06/23/2003 2:30:06 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: nmh
No I outright vilify those that say harry Potter turns people into satanist, because they're vilifying me in the course of their idiotic accusations.

If you're going to base your disapproval of Potter on factless accusations with zero support then you deserve to be ridiculed. If you want to disapprove of Potter because Rowling was a welfare mom when she wrote the first, I have no problem; because you just don't like fantasy fiction, fine your choice; because you think the covers look dumb, we're right alongside each other. But as soon as you start calling it a tool of witchcraft you're accusing those of us that read the books (and those who let their kids read them) of being too stupid to know reality from fiction and discerning good from evil, now you and I have a problem.

No you DO NOT see an increase in witchcraft because of Potter influence. You IMAGINE it. It's simply not happening, out here in reality there is not one single drop of witchcraft influence in Potter. It's all in the imagination of sad people that never have and never will read the books, probably have no idea what witchcraft really, are just taking their cues from crackpots and consider that an informed decision. It's not.

I don't give a damn how people like you feel when attacked. People like you have been attacking myself and my friends for 25 years and I reserve the right to attack back. You're not erring on the side of caution, you're erring on the side of blindly condemning people for reasons you don't even understand and driving them away from your beliefs. You can use the Bible for your beliefs and read Harry Potter, there's not one word in the Potter series that runs counter to anything in the Bible.
186 posted on 06/23/2003 2:34:17 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: Wolfie
That was creative. lol
187 posted on 06/23/2003 2:35:49 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Xenalyte
Christina before...

And after reading Harry Potter. Conicidence? YOU make the call!


188 posted on 06/23/2003 2:35:55 PM PDT by TheBigB (Freep 'em if they can't take a joke!)
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To: Xenalyte
I don't have a problem with Harry Potter and find the attacks on it pretty funny.

It is fiction.
189 posted on 06/23/2003 2:36:27 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: nmh
Who really cares what people like you feel like when you're attacked? Somebody could whack you upside the head with a two by four, and you'd still stand there, slackjawed, drooling, all with that perpetual glazed expression on your face while saying "but I think thats evil, because my equally stupid preacher/imam/cleric done said it was, and I really have a deeply held, heartfelt belief that he's right".

Just like any hysterical liberal - long on belief, short on rationality.

190 posted on 06/23/2003 2:37:11 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: nmh
?Don't presume to speak for all Christians.
191 posted on 06/23/2003 2:39:05 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: nmh
All people against Harry Potter from your camp don't know anything about Harry Potter or the witchcraft they think it's pushing. You're coming from a position of ignorance. Somebody told you that Harry is against certain teachings from the Bible and you believed them, and they were wrong when they told you that and you're wrong to believe them and you're wrong to attack people for chosing to make their own decisions based on the text of the actual books.

Way to appeal to emotion by drawing an entirely unaccurate parallel. The abortion arguement is based in the definition of life and when it begins and whether it's murder. The Potter arguement is based in people blindly condemning that which they know nothing about.

No we don't simply disagree on Harry Potter. Not if you think it leads to satanism. If that's your reason for not reading Potter then we disagree on whether or not people can chose for themselves based on facts vs hyperbole, we disagree on the very nature of fiction, and I'm betting we also disagree on whether role playing games and heavy metal make people satanists. You see that's the core of the Potter is evil arguement, it's just another thing in a long line that misinformed people like yourself use to attack people that would rather judge for themselves like me.
192 posted on 06/23/2003 2:40:45 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: Wolfie
There are some places online where you can get custom-made bumper stickers.
193 posted on 06/23/2003 2:41:26 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Xenalyte
Are you kidding? Roadies can't hear a damn thing. Love is deef!
194 posted on 06/23/2003 2:42:38 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Too much coffee, Bob?
195 posted on 06/23/2003 2:43:46 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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To: TheBigB
Harry Potter made her boobs bigger... now that's powerful magic.
196 posted on 06/23/2003 2:44:44 PM PDT by discostu (you've got to bleed for the dancer)
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To: discostu
I'm betting we also disagree on whether role playing games and heavy metal make people satanists.

I keep trying to get my CDs to play backwards so I can get the messages from Satan and his minions like I used to get them off my albums, but I'm having no luck - and I can't seem to find new vinyl LPs. Are there any tips?

;)

197 posted on 06/23/2003 2:45:03 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Santa twisted around spells SATAN)
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To: discostu
And if that's not an example of good magic, well then, what is? :)
198 posted on 06/23/2003 2:45:36 PM PDT by TheBigB (Freep 'em if they can't take a joke!)
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To: Liberal Classic
Skipped lunch. Its always a mistake.
199 posted on 06/23/2003 2:45:51 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Santa twisted around spells SATAN)
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
That'll do it every time. :)
200 posted on 06/23/2003 2:47:09 PM PDT by Liberal Classic (Quemadmoeum gladis nemeinum occidit, occidentis telum est.)
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