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Despite $38 billion deficit, California is considering $500,000 to honor pagan god
Abiding Truth Ministries ^ | June 20, 2003 | Scott Lively

Posted on 06/22/2003 6:46:45 AM PDT by Saundra Duffy

Budget “Pink Pork” for Religious AIDS Memorial Draws Lawsuit Threat from the 'Funding of "Gay" Agenda'

Source: Pro-Family Law Center

Description: Despite its $38 billion deficit, the State of California is considering co-funding a $500,000 “gay” AIDS memorial, a representation of the pagan god Quetzalcoatal

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE: June 19, 2003

The Pro-Family Law Center lively@abidingtruth.com www.defendthefamily.com

Budget “Pink Pork” for Religious AIDS Memorial Draws Lawsuit Threat

Despite its $38 billion deficit, the State of California is considering co-funding a $500,000 “gay” AIDS memorial, a representation of the pagan god Quetzalcoatal. The high-priced religious monument, know officially as “The Wall Las Memorias,” is slated to be erected in a children’s park in a heavily Hispanic and low-income section of Los Angeles.

The project is part of the current budget being debated in the capitol, but residents near the affected park want the project cancelled. They claim the city of Los Angeles planned and approved the monument in secret meetings (in violation of state open meetings law) in order to prevent local residents from opposing their plans. They also accuse state legislators of being unwilling to buck the powerful “gay” lobby on an item that is widely recognized as so-called “pink pork,” (i.e. public funding for special-interest “gay” projects).

Outraged at being marginalized, opponents of the memorial have now threatened to sue the State of California and the City of Los Angeles if state legislators approve funding for it.

On their behalf, litigation counsel Richard Ackerman of the Sacramento-based Pro-Family Law Center has drafted a letter outlining the government’s legal liability if it endorses or participates in the creation of a religious monument. The letter, a copy of which was hand-delivered to legislators’ offices on Thursday morning, promises immediate litigation in federal court if the budget is approved and signed with the AIDS memorial line item intact.

“This is just plain corrupt,” said PFLC President Scott Lively. “I think most Californians could think of much better uses for that money than building a monument to dead victims of voluntary ‘gay’ sex and IV drug use. To make matters worse, the monument is religious in nature, honoring a pagan god once worshipped with human sacrifice. The same crowd that wants this religious monument also wants to remove “under God” from our Pledge of Allegiance. The hypocrisy is galling, but fortunately the law is on our side.”


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: aids; aztecs; california; churchandstate; deathcultivation; gays; homosexualagenda; homosexuality; idolatry; lively; memorial; pagans; pinkpork; prisoners; quetzalcoatal; religion; taxdollarsatwork; un; youpayforthis
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To: Saundra Duffy
This isn't the only insanity.

The state added 4000 employees in the last year.

Real spending in the new proposed budget is still higher than in the last year's budget.

"Cuts" in spending for the bureaucrats and taxgrinders means a reduction in the amount they planned to increase the budget item.

The doofus Davis keeps harping on the "cost" of the recall election which is $25 million and ignores the cost of his incompetence to the tune of $30 million a day in just interest for his monumental incompetence !!

Bottom line:
I will agree to temporary tax increases (for the sole purpose of paying off the existing debt) only if there is a real and permanent reduction in spending to 1998 levels.
It would be well for our California Republicans to hang tough on this one.
Otherwise they are dead meat.

41 posted on 06/22/2003 7:41:20 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: Savage Beast
What does Quetzalcoatal have to do with homosexuality and AIDS?

Absolutely nothing.
It's just another way for the perverts to flex their political muscle.

As long as they're allowed to.
Are we better off now than we were in 1979 when the concept of the "closet" started to go away?

42 posted on 06/22/2003 7:43:56 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: FITZ
Except Queztalcoatl was an actual man ...

Strange, but even after 40+ years of keen interest in archeology and cultures, this is news to me.

Care to share your source for this creative claim?
It wasn't perchance from a pink ribbon pervert publication?

43 posted on 06/22/2003 7:48:09 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: Xenalyte
Wow. Bet my friends of Aztec descent would be quite interested to know that their ancestors are now considered pagans.

Do you enjoy pummeling straw men?

By every definition, anyone who would promote this god from a bankrupt, primitive, brutal and pretty much useless dead culture certainly qualifies for the name.

44 posted on 06/22/2003 7:52:17 AM PDT by Publius6961 (Californians are as dumm as a sack of rocks)
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To: FITZ
Cannibalism was often a part of the ceremonies also.

One poster told me Azteca cannibalism is now thought to have been more pervasive. Isn't the theory that they needed to eat human flesh due to lack of animal proteins in the Aztec empire? Their food staple, corn, is lacking in some proteins and b vitamins. Other grains are better balanced.

45 posted on 06/22/2003 7:52:51 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: dennisw
Yes ---that's the theory ---but I don't buy it ---there were deer, chihuahua dogs, jack rabbits, birds and other meat to eat. They didn't practice cannibalism for the nutritional value, sacrifice victims were usually strong handsome men from other Indian tribes and the Aztecs thought by eating them, they would take on some of the good qualities they had. It was ceremonial cannabalism.
46 posted on 06/22/2003 7:56:06 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Publius6961
Pummeling?

One 20-word post is "pummeling"?

How many posts do I have to make before I'm "beating a dead horse"?
47 posted on 06/22/2003 8:00:08 AM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Saundra Duffy
Seperation of church and state? Guess that only applies to Cristian churches.
48 posted on 06/22/2003 8:00:44 AM PDT by Arkie2 (It's a literary fact that the number of words wriiten will grow exponentially to fill the space avai)
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To: Publius6961
Some of the early Spaniards in Mexico believed Queztalcoatl was the apostle St. Thomas. He arrived from the East and he left to the East and said he would return someday so when Cortez came the Mexicans thought he was Quetzalcoatl coming back. Quetzalcoatl is actually very interesting ---but nothing can ever be known and many revisionists rewrite his story. From what the Spanish friars wrote, he was not an evil character, what he preached wasn't opposed to Christianity.
49 posted on 06/22/2003 8:01:28 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Publius6961
Do a google search on Quetzalcoatl ---or do one on him and St Thomas ----interesting stuff. He was an actual Toltec leader in the distant past and somehow became a kind of god ---he wasn't an Aztec at all. The Aztecs worshipped more violent gods.
50 posted on 06/22/2003 8:03:46 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
"It was ceremonial cannibalism."

Perhaps that's the best way to look at this waste of taxpayer's sweat and money.

Pink pork, indeed....'Humans, the other pink meat'.

Every time I think of how bad it is in Canada, I think of Kalifornia and am relieved that we're not alone!

We're all in this together, folks. ;^)
51 posted on 06/22/2003 8:05:54 AM PDT by headsonpikes
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To: FITZ
The Spaniards were interested in the history of Mexico and wrote down their own observations and what people told them ---- not that their view isn't colored by their own beliefs and culture ---but their writings are as valid as any others ---especially more valid than anything written today so far from the original tellers of the story.
52 posted on 06/22/2003 8:06:22 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
Yes ---that's the theory ---but I don't buy it ---there were deer, chihuahua dogs, jack rabbits, birds and other meat to eat.
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I think most game was hunted to extinction near the end of the Azteca empire
53 posted on 06/22/2003 8:09:18 AM PDT by dennisw (G-d is at war with Amalek for all generations)
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To: csvset
he looks very gay...
54 posted on 06/22/2003 8:58:39 AM PDT by jd777
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To: Dog Gone
The ACLU is at present to busy helping the a certain State Government sue a landowner for erecting a large neon sign "on his own property" that says "Jesus Saves". Yes you read that right. The ACLU is helping the STATE fight a suit brought by the CHRISTIAN over the STATE saying he can't erect a large neon sign saying "Jesus Saves" on HIS OWN PROPERTY!!
55 posted on 06/22/2003 9:00:39 AM PDT by The_Pickle ("We have no Permanent Allies, We have no Permanent Enemies, Only Permanent Interests")
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To: Publius6961
Here's a pretty good source:

http://www.ancientsites.com/aw/Post/101410

It gets into the Spanish friars' versions which I don't think can be completely tossed aside by the modern revisionists who write their own versions. I guess everything has to be taken with a grain of salt ---but the friars were closest to writing down the Indians' oral history ---- the modern day versions are more likely to be politically correct and completely erroneous.
56 posted on 06/22/2003 9:02:55 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: Saundra Duffy
I drove down Vanowen on Friday coming back from Burbank airport. Coming through a heavily populated Hispanic area - I saw a huge billboard. It said: "HIVisionaries!" and showed two Hispanic men KISSING. Sorry, but isn't that an insult to the majority of the Hispanic, Catholic population?
57 posted on 06/22/2003 9:09:40 AM PDT by cgk (Rummy on WMD: We haven't found Saddam Hussein yet, but I don't see anyone saying HE didn't exist.)
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To: Saundra Duffy
It's the ABC Philosophy: ANYTHING BUT CHRISTIANITY
58 posted on 06/22/2003 9:34:48 AM PDT by Paul Atreides
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To: FITZ
In San Jose, California, they already have a $500,000 sculpture of Quetzalcoatl in the inspired form of a big pile of dog poop. Click picture for a funny story about it.

Note that Park God spelled backwards is Dog Krap.

59 posted on 06/22/2003 9:39:25 AM PDT by Reeses
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To: Reeses
LOL!!! The joys of political correctness! By the earlier accounts, if Quetzalcoatl did actually exist as a man, he was a fair-skinned--even possibly bearded man which is why the Indians thought Cortez was Quetzalcoatl returning from the East. Now he's being portrayed as a homosexual in addition to being brown poop.
60 posted on 06/22/2003 9:46:31 AM PDT by FITZ
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