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Sci Fi Channel puts its corporate muscle behind effort to investigate UFOs
Miami Herald ^ | Fri, Jun. 20, 2003 | David Bauder

Posted on 06/21/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by demlosers

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To: janetgreen
Great! Please tune in here as well if you are able to do both at the same time. Would love to have your comments.
161 posted on 07/01/2003 2:02:11 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: janetgreen; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; ...
AM RUSHING OFF to get some meds for a worsening serious toothache. Will be back ASAP.

Please post what you're able as workable and convenient!

Blessings,
162 posted on 07/01/2003 5:37:52 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: janetgreen; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; ...
In the past decade over 50,000,000 have reported seeing ET craft . . .

Mexican officials even held press conferences asking the public to remain calm. . . . these sightings are continuing at this time. . . .

in 1989 Bob Lazar was hired . . . must be aliens building them somewhere . . . if that's true, must be others . . .

AT first the sightings began occurring some distance from his home. But it wasn't long before the discs began hovering over his backyard. . . . IN the blink of an eye, the craft disappeared . . .

slowed down, we see the craft dematerialize frame by frame

20 Oct 1995

took place over a 50 min period. . . .

here we see the craft minutes after the sighting began . . . clearly we can see the craft hovering over the homes below. These large crafts are commonly referred to as beam ships or motherships . . . approximately 38 min into the sighting, the ship began hovering away from his house . . . he followed the craft in his car . . . Miami Int airport where it hovered . . . . this slow motion enhancement shows it hovering . . .

commercial.
163 posted on 07/01/2003 6:06:06 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
note: I TRY to type the more important phrases at least and then post them at each commercial break.

Please share your comments as you feel like it.


in 1561

This cigar shaped craft was filmed in RI

These pics of a cigar shaped UFO were taken in California.

Doohan--the evidence is overwhelming.

When did these sightings began--the evidence is . . . since the dawn of time.

Unknowingly, we'd sent an invitation to the universe [with the atomic bomb] . . .

As early as 1947, alien craft began to respond to our open invitation by arriving in large numbers. . . . NEW MEXICO was the place to be . . . White Sands . . . Roswell home to the only atomic bomb squadron in the world.

Rancher M Brazel . . . spread over an area 100 miles long and 3/4 mile wide . . . debris . . . Base Commander had already ordered a press release that they had recovered a disc. . . .

Recently declassified Top Secret documents disclose recovery of an "alien craft."

In response to the Roswell crash, Pres Truman . . . MJ 12

to research the UFO phenomenon and keep it out of the public eye.

These once top secret papers describe multiple alien recovery . . .

AT the end of MJ12's preliminary . . . the phenomenon is something real and not imaginary nor fictitous.

circular or eliptical . . . the General described the alien craft as extremely manoeuverable.

The alien craft represented a technological advantage.

The public demanded an explanation. . . .

credible observers of relatively incredible things . . .

the military had no choice but to try and explain the UFO sightings.

. . . off the coast of the island Trinidad. After the official analysis proved the craft was 150' in diameter . . .

The first UFO tracking project was installed in Alaskad . . . aboard special recon planes . . . under the command Lt Col W Stevens.

all the films [from planes etc] etc. packed into a metal box and chained to an officer's wrist and sent to Wash about 3-4 times a month.

In July 1952--that's exactly what happened--Glowing discs buzzing Washington DC up to 7,000 mphs . . . a week later the discs returned.

The airforce blamed it on a temp inversion.

They thought discrediting the sightings would decrease the public interest. So . . . the coverup began.
164 posted on 07/01/2003 6:17:54 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
slowed down, we see the craft dematerialize frame by frame

Aha, the cloaking device! I just turned on Sci-Fi, and guess what's on here in southern Cal? Star Trek. The good stuff about UFOs will start later here.

165 posted on 07/01/2003 6:20:35 PM PDT by janetgreen
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To: winodog
At least they had the common sense in keeping Stargate going.
166 posted on 07/01/2003 6:22:21 PM PDT by KevinDavis (Let the meek inherit the Earth, the rest of us will explore the stars!)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
Project Blue Book [will skip typing this part--I hate the whole subject of Blue Book]

sea gulls and swamp gas!

The height of the Cold War ushered us into the space race . . . man on the moon. . . space exploration became a top priority. But as NASA found out--the Russians weren't the only ones watching.

NASA's official policy is that it's not engaged in any UFO research . . .

but . . . show that practically every flight included UFO observations . . . . clyndrical UFO in orbit . . . luminous discs in orbit around the moon. . . .

Here a gigantic dome shaped disc filmed in stationary orbit above the moon's surface . . .

It has it's own policies regarding ET contact . . .

James Lovell, Deke Slayton . . . their own encounters . . .

A ham radio operator claims he picked up the voice of Col Blaha . . . another space shuttle mission filmed several discs . . .

sightings continued to increase in number . . . took footage in his backyard in twilight . . . scientists examining the footage conclude the disc appears to be manoeuvering in it's own gravitational field.

167 posted on 07/01/2003 6:27:16 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
In 1977 . . . a boy scout took this . . . of a craft that circled his house.

This luminous domed craft appeared to have a rim around the center . . .

moved with such speed, it left this luminous track on a single frame of film . . . no . . . can move that fast with that manoeuverability.

The disc appears to be rotating while emitting a blue glow.

This sighting was filmed from the parking lot . . . of the . . . hotel (Las Vegas) . . .

these 2 discs were video taped outside Ottowa Canada,
. . . the guardian sighting.

as this disc emerged from the river and flew off.

. . . Reagan . . .

2 years later he repeated the alien theme at the UN.

Doohan--Pres Reagan's speech started the public asking questions again.

. . . area 51 . . .

the base has expanded immenseley.

Until recently the gov denied it's existence.

amateur photogs risking imprisonment

gov seized adjacent land. . .

monitors the BLM land around the base .

These black unmarked copters buzz autos . . .

This eyewitness video . . . as hovers over the base . . .

Bob Lazar breaks his silence . . . at the military top secret saucer . . .

specializing in advanced propulsion . . . hired by the military to back engineer an alien craft

S4 was made specifically to seperate it there.

rather the discs were being flown out of S4.

an area just off the Papoose lake bed.
9 hangers with sloped doors on them with a sand colorde coating.

flew to groom lake; deplaned . . . to S4

"well this explains the UFO sightings" thinking it was an advanced fighter--it never occurred to me that I was looking at an ET vehicle.

a sport model; jello mold; top hat;

alien crafts like the ones Bob worked on had been sighted throughout the world.

It probably really hit me when I got inside the craft . . . and finally grasped the whole project as a whole.

we weren't building this thing--we were trying to find out how it was made--we were back engineering it.

But it's a real ominous feeling--like you shouldn't be there.

I only witnessed one test flight up close officially.

The craft lifted up almost silently--cronal discharge

168 posted on 07/01/2003 6:40:23 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
[tired. sore tooth, sleepy]




I think this is another notch up in several qualitative and detail respects. Not huge leaps but incrementally . . .



From deep inside the underground facility, Lazar discovered how these craft operated.

There were 3 large gravity amplifiers . . . 2' diameter . . .

they can be independently positioned . . . They'll use one gravity generator to lift the craft off the ground.

as opposed to thrust . . .

the craft work completely opposite of that

they'll swing the other 2 gravity generators creating a kind of down hill in front of them . . . .

Omocron config; delta using all 3--for . . . always chasing a distortion . . .

that's why they look goofy at slow speed mode . . . unstable . . .

it would appear as a glowing ball, a bright light . . . even close up--a glowing halo . . .

enough energy to a gas molecule--they emit a photon . . .

you're feelings change once you're privy to the info.

there must be others . . .




We've uncovered startling new evidence that mankind has been visited since recorded history . . . Pakistan 7,000 yeqars ago

disc shaped craft over hunting scene . . . Japanese cave painting . . . middle ages . . . .

Summarians . . . preserved records show contact with alien beings .

Summarian symbol in crop formation.

as shown on this video tape, most crop formations coincide with UFO sightings . . .

Billy Meier . . . [sigh]

An independent lab confirmed the photo had not been altered and was considered genuine.

electron microscope of the metal sample . . . intricately machined and cold fused together and could not have been manufactured on earth.

skeptics maintained that the photos were too good to be true.

169 posted on 07/01/2003 6:51:53 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
ANYONE ELSE TYPE FAST?

AM FINDING IT INCREASINGLY DIFFICULT TO STAY AWAKE.

aNYONE ELSE able and willing to take over transcribing this program and the one following?
170 posted on 07/01/2003 6:53:39 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
mass siting . . . Mex City . . . this extraordinary phenomena continues to this day. . .

amateur photogs captured the eclipse . . .


sorry--am running out of gas.

If anyone else can fill-in--great.

Going to take a shower and head for bed.



corona discharge on the bottom of the craft

2,000 hours of video taken . . . all reveal the same metalic shaped craft as photographed from different areas of the city . . . analyzed . . .

thermal image . . .

sightings continued to grow in numbers following the eclipse.

from an apartment in the city . . . while filming this car commercial . . .

take it away folks . . .
171 posted on 07/01/2003 6:57:53 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
A bit more energy after the shower . . .

Bob Lazar . . . Zeta Reticuli
. . .

typical grey photo

I would imagine 3.5-4' tall . . . guessing . . . all I had was a photo . . .

alien exchange program . . . story was relayed to me

. . .

live aliens at the facility . . . at one particular point
there was a sidearm . . . if they had entered the area,

the bullets would have detonated . . . an alien tried to stop the security from entering the area . . .

job description

official . . . sr staff physicist.

I wasn't supervising anyone . . .

there infrequently . . .

I had a Majestic clearance--38 levels above Top Secret.

see 1st disc 3rd time I was up there.

Normally went in main entrance . . .

pulled near last hanger door which was open . . .

never even occurred to me that I was looking at an ET vehicle.

thought of it as an advanced man made craft

when I got inside the craft and began to understand how the craft was operated and began to grasp the whole project as a whole--we were not building this thing--we were back engineering it.

emotional response? Implications? world, man?

I really didn't think about the implications . . . emotionally . . . that's not the way it was--exciting--it was ominous--felt like you shouldn't be there--a real ominous feeling.

172 posted on 07/01/2003 7:18:20 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
Will see if I can do another segment . . .



similar to the gravity wave that the earth produces . . .

not really an opposite polarity . . .

Well the craft generates it's own gravitational field. Being inside that field--essentially--doesn't shield you--but you're in . . . almost in a different realm--you're influenced only by that gravitational realm . . . so the 90 degree turn thing . . . you're in your own gravity field . . . not a problem . . .

delta configuration would be for space travel

focusing the 3 gravity generators at a single point and moves around space that way . . .

the craft rolls downhill for infinity--chasing a gravity distortion . . .

depending on the minerals etc. underneath it . . . can vary things . . .

craft should have distorted the radio waves, also. appearantly there's something there I don't understand . . .

52 ft in diameter . . . this was quite a scientific feat.

The craft itself--i assume it was metal . . . unfinished stainless steal--no seam . . . as though injection molded in one giant die. . . I can't reflect on how it may be built.

How would you define gravity . . .

difficult to explain . . . many theories . . . gravitons . . . sub-atomic particles . . . a form of wave; an electromagnetic wave . . . an inherent property of matter . . . basically all that we really know. . .

thru research at S4 . . . it appears that there are 2 different forms of gravity . . . holding matter, etc. together . . . planets

If you're under the craft--because of the way the gravity is being used . . . you will actually see what's above the craft . . . a trick of the way light bends under the influence of gravity. . .

space, time and gravity are always interrelated . . . gravity bends space. gravity also distorts time. . .




ANY COMMENTS???
173 posted on 07/01/2003 7:30:26 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
Well, I'm reading your summaries, but since I don't get Sci-Fi, there's not a lot I can add. If you're too tired, just take a break. I'm sure others will have lots of comments tomorrow.
174 posted on 07/01/2003 7:36:27 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
wHAT ARE SOME OF THE INHERENT problems traveling at the speed of light?

AS your speed increases--so does your mass proportionally.

. . . converted into mass . . .

at extreme velocity . . . navigational problems . . .

a whole host of problems you can run into beside the fact of the amount of energy required . . .

PROJ SIDEKICK

Any of the weapons potential of the craft.

. . .

[phone call]

time distortion, time dialation.

element 115 is in the top of the reactor.

the particle is accelerated to high speed and . . . aimed at 115

this causes a reaction--a radiation emission that we really haven't seen before--this produces antimatter--guided down a tube, too . . . antimatter . . . converted 100% into energy . . . electrical power . . . used to power other . . . around the craft. . . .

gravitational wave from the 115 being bombarded--guided the same way microwaves are guided . . .

Is there a thermal radiation danger to the crew? There is no thermal radiation--which is a violation of the first thermodynamic law--but it's working.

the island of stability . . .

somewhere around 114-116--the nucleous of the atom is stable.

115 is, in fact this element.

it occurs again around element 247.

Did they--the aliens give us 115 in large quantity?

I can't answer that question. I was told we have 500 lbs.

YOu were able to get away with a sample . . . NO.



175 posted on 07/01/2003 7:39:21 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: LanPB01
tHANKS. sHOWER woke me up and meds seem to have moderated the tooth ache a lot. Will see how much further I can go.

Would love to see some comments for the effort!

Much appreciate yours.
176 posted on 07/01/2003 7:40:47 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
Quix, NIX the Clicks, LOL!! I haven't been watching tonight and you must have your pager off because my head is PINGING!! Love, Carol
177 posted on 07/01/2003 7:43:40 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; green team 1999; ..
You witnessed several night time test flights off the base . . .

at the exact moment the craft was doing exciting things I was fiddling with the video camera . . . .similar to what i'd seen before close up . . .

how were you able to find out about the test flight schedules. They were told to me because I would likely have to be present . . .

statistically least amount of traffic.

high voltage discharge on the bottom of the craft.

why appear as glowing balls of light? kind of same reason a neon or flourescent light lights up.

When you apply enough energy to a gas molecule, the emit photons. It's really a byproduct to how the craft operates.

If you were going to see one of these craft operate . . . even close up--you'd see a glowing halo around it . . .

however keep in mind, lights in the sky are also common things . . .

Aurora --it's a large craft--two huge square exhausts or vanes

sounds more like a rocket. I think he did mention it was liquid methane

Working on this model, I couldn't care less about other things...

any attempts on your life?

. . . interstate 15 . . . a car came up beside me . . . white boxy looking car--i accellerated--there was a gunshot--back of the car was hit--I stopped--paralyzed--I expected him to pull up and shoot me--but he didn't.

It was an attempt. by whom, I don't know. They threatened my life and my wife's life.

a gun to your head?

I brought some friends out

following week I was debriefed at Indian Springs . . . they were essentially grilling me about security. How could I possibly bring people out there.

I guess I wasn't as responsive as they wanted.

Have you maintained any contact?

No, haven't heard from anyone.

Supervisor tried to make contact with me.

I took a couple of friends down there. . .

We saw him but I also did recognize some security personnel around there, we left.

AS we enter the 21st century, how has your experience changed your beliefs.

If you want to word how have my opinions changed? considerably.

One of the guys that thought that gov conspiracy, UFO's etc. were lunatics.

I remember laughing at John Lear--that he'd lost his mind about one of his interviews . . . 70 races of ET's . . .

the government doing everything BUT looking out for us.

Obviously ET craft do exist. Someone had to build them--must be a factory and an entire civilization . . . then there must be others . . .

Kind of moved from Sci Fi to reality.

178 posted on 07/01/2003 7:51:09 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: potlatch
Are you saying forget the pings?

OK, will just add on to my own posts. Those interested can read the whole section of the thread.

Otherwise, I am too thickheaded at the moment to understand your msg.
179 posted on 07/01/2003 7:52:29 PM PDT by Quix (LIVE THREAD NOW STARTED. UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
I am too thickheaded at the moment to understand your msg.

LOL, I think you are sleep-walking!! I'm NOT watching the program and I've had 12 pings from you on my Free Republic PAGER. I wrote you a private message, but you must not be using the pager. Carol

180 posted on 07/01/2003 7:58:05 PM PDT by potlatch
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