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Sci Fi Channel puts its corporate muscle behind effort to investigate UFOs
Miami Herald ^ | Fri, Jun. 20, 2003 | David Bauder

Posted on 06/21/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by demlosers

NEW YORK - In an unusual step for a television network, the Sci Fi Channel is campaigning to persuade the government to be more forthcoming and aggressive in investigating UFO sightings.

Sci Fi has hired former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta as a Washington lobbyist, sponsored a symposium on interstellar travel and is considering a court effort to declassify documents related to a 1965 incident in Pennsylvania.

The network will premiere a documentary, "Out of the Blue," Tuesday at 9 p.m. (Eastern and Pacific time zones) that methodically lays out an argument that there's something out there.

Most TV networks are reluctant to spend money for anything other than self-interest. The few public interest efforts are hardly controversial: Lifetime promoting breast cancer research, for example, or MTV's Rock the Vote campaign to encourage young people to register.

But by fighting for UFO probes, Sci Fi is wading into an area that invites not only dissent, but also ridicule.

"It's very, very tough for people to take this subject seriously," said Ed Rothschild, a lobbyist in Podesta's firm. "We thought the only way it was going to be seriously addressed is to have serious people talk about it, scientists."

Rothschild won't even identify the members of Congress he's talked to about leaning on the government for more openness about UFOs. He's afraid they'll never help if their names come out and they're laughed at.

Even believers are reluctant to talk about the issue.

After hearing that former President Carter once saw a UFO, "Out of the Blue" filmmaker James Fox repeatedly, and unsuccessfully, asked Carter's representatives for an interview. Undaunted, Fox essentially ambushed Carter with a camera one day at a book-signing. Carter confirmed the incident but his brevity and forced smile indicated he wasn't happy to be answering.

Given the "giggle factor" that surrounds UFOs, Sci Fi is taking a chance with its reputation, Fox said.

"I don't think there's a risk because the questions need to be asked," said Thomas Vitale, Sci Fi's senior vice president of programming. "Even somebody who is the biggest skeptic in the world ... still wants the questions answered. And who better to do it?"

The mission isn't entirely altruistic, of course. The Sci Fi Channel, which is seen in about three-quarters of the nation's TV households, polled viewers on the topic. Evidence of keen interest is also seen in the ratings.

Last November's documentary on the celebrated, suspected 1947 UFO crash in Roswell, N.M., was the highest-rated special in the network's 11-year history. It was seen by nearly 2.4 million people, or about 2 1/2 times Sci Fi's usual prime-time audience.

"Our main goal is not to find a UFO," Vitale said. "The goal is finding the truth. We're expanding and exploring the blurry line between what is science fiction and what is science fact."

Vitale wouldn't say how much Sci Fi is spending on this. The network sponsored an archaeological excavation at Roswell, will debut a public service announcement Tuesday and has four new UFO specials in the works.

It is backing an effort to get U.S. Air Force records released on a 1965 incident in Kecksburg, Pa., where some witnesses believe a UFO crashed. This may end up in court, Rothschild said.

Fox, a San Francisco-based journalist, never thought much about UFOs until a visit nine years ago to Nevada, when he and his friends watched a saucer-shaped object hover silently in the sky then dart away.

"When I got home, I was met with laughter," he said. "No one believed me, even my family. I thought, if my own family doesn't believe me, who does?"

Intrigued, he began looking into other UFO incidents. He sold a 1998 documentary to the Discovery Channel and shopped "Out of the Blue" to the same network, but said he was told Discovery no longer buys pro-UFO films. (A Discovery spokeswoman denied this.)

So he went to Sci Fi. Fox considers 95 percent of reported UFO incidents bunk, either hoaxes or easily explained conventional phenomena. And don't count him among people who believe aliens already live among us.

But that still leaves a significant number of mysterious cases. "Out of the Blue" outlines several, concentrating on the most reputable of witnesses - former astronauts, military and government officials, topped off by an ex-president.

Fox's storytelling is sober, not sensational. Summing up incidents at the end of the film, Fox gives the official government explanations of what happened, and they're often more ridiculous than the sightings themselves.

"You get to a point where you can no longer dismiss each and every episode," he said.

Fox and Rothschild can think of several reasons why the government doesn't want to talk about UFOs:

_ The military doesn't want to spend time or money on something that isn't perceived as a threat.

_ Officials may also like the secrecy; it keeps other governments guessing about what kind of new weapon technologies might be in the works.

_ It could also be embarrassing, since it can expose what they don't know and the limitations of human technology.

_ And who wants to set off a "War of the Worlds"-type incident?

Fox envisions the public announcement that could come with such an event: "We don't know where they come from, we don't know what they're doing. We can't stop them if they become hostile and they can fly rings around all of our aircraft.

"Thank you, and good night."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: area51; buildthewall; extraterrestrials; johnpodesta; podkletnov; scifi; scifichannel; space; syfy; ufo; ufos
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To: gitmo
Look what happened to Mulder and Sculley when they tried to expose this stuff.

LOL, yes and I miss them!

61 posted on 06/24/2003 5:59:07 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: potlatch; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; ...
HERE WE GO!

PLEASE LET ME KNOW IF YOU ARE LURKING--via FREEPMAIL or otherwise. I'd like to keep a rough tab on how many are interested enough to show up.
62 posted on 06/24/2003 6:02:02 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
Pedantic beginning.

Some quasi interesting list of witnesses. Nothing greatly new so far.
63 posted on 06/24/2003 6:04:32 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
Show up for what?? I had just started at the top of the thread! What time is the UFO special on TV??
64 posted on 06/24/2003 6:07:00 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Quix
5% of reports unexplainable by conventional means/explanations.

Interesting space shot.

Seems to be a forthright tone, attitude at the outset.

Phoenix lights.

65 posted on 06/24/2003 6:07:49 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
Estimated--Phoenix lights--craft estimated by one character to be 5,000 long.

Truck driver observed fighter jets scrambled to intercept UFO's right overhead.
66 posted on 06/24/2003 6:09:31 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
Phoenix lights eyewitness, "Profoundly MASSIVE!"
67 posted on 06/24/2003 6:13:34 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Quix
Phoenix lights eyewitness, "Profoundly MASSIVE!"
68 posted on 06/24/2003 6:13:39 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: Quix
Huge orbs hovering over the base--Luke Airforce base.

As jets headed toward orbs--they left--"just gone."

middle of craft distorted like heat waves distort pavement on a hot day.

Completely silent.

Chandler, Tucson sightings as well.

Black object against a grey background--no problem seeing it.
IT WAS HUGE.

Council woman Barwood.
Reporter told her they'd gone to every level of government and no one would talk to them. . . that they were not going to talk about it at all.

Gov Fife S "going to get to the bottom of it" later that day he held an unscheduled press conf.
joke with an actor with a large ET head.

Officials said it didn't happen.
Council woman--WHY IS EVERYONE SO AFRAID--THEY'RE AFRAID OF THEIR CAREERS AND THE SCORN.
69 posted on 06/24/2003 6:14:27 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
I'm watching, darn I missed the first 12 minutes!! 8:15 CDT
70 posted on 06/24/2003 6:15:35 PM PDT by potlatch
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To: Las Vegas Dave
I have been told that the mother craft are city size huge.

And that even some of our larger craft under our 'government' control are huge.

71 posted on 06/24/2003 6:16:04 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: demlosers
Good, I love this stuff
72 posted on 06/24/2003 6:18:45 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
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To: Quix
Reminds me of Art Bell's story of the flying triangle over Pahrump Nv. that he and his wife witnessed.

Thing was large and completely silent!
73 posted on 06/24/2003 6:18:51 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: potlatch
Nothing that new so far.

My comments hereon are a fair summary.

THANKS MUCH FOR JOINING US.
74 posted on 06/24/2003 6:19:16 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
What was Von Braun's statement, I missed it...
75 posted on 06/24/2003 6:19:43 PM PDT by plusone
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To: Porterville
THANKS FOR JOINING US.

I ENJOY IT A LOT TOO--THOUGH DUE TO MY STUDIES OF BIBLICAL PROPHECIES . . . it took on more import than just a hobby decades ago.
76 posted on 06/24/2003 6:20:38 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: plusone
It's available at the Disclosure site.

That in 1970, the powers that be had already THEN planned:

A) a war on terrorism

B) to be followed by a war on Iraq

C) to be followed by war against ET's.

Von Braun insisted the war against ET's was unnecessary and dangerous as they were benign and powerful. I'm not so convinced they are benign. Though I believe some may be angels on God's side. I think most are in cahoots with satan and the puppet masters driving us toward the Biblically predicted one world government.

Interesting testimony by Bethune.

Perhaps someone could summarize it who was paying more attention to it.
77 posted on 06/24/2003 6:23:41 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
AHHHHH BETHUNE--M.A.J.I.C. OR SOME SUCH!

comes up again!
78 posted on 06/24/2003 6:24:58 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: boris
I reluctantly buy the "Rare Earth" argument that we are probably alone or very isolated.

Actually, what we keep finding, over and over again, is that our situation in the universe is not unique but ordinary. It is far more likely, more "ordinary" that we will find life wherever there is free water than for life on Earth to be unique.

If you see "Rare Earth" as an explanation for Fermi's Paradox, I think a more likely reason is the vast distances between stars.

79 posted on 06/24/2003 6:25:21 PM PDT by BlazingArizona
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To: Riley; The Hon. Galahad Threepwood
I agree for the most part, but have you ever seen the Phoenix Lights or the Mexico City sighting? Those two have me thinking that something might be going on here; not necessarily aliens, but something the public is unaware of.
80 posted on 06/24/2003 6:30:15 PM PDT by GunRunner (New and Improved!)
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