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Sci Fi Channel puts its corporate muscle behind effort to investigate UFOs
Miami Herald ^ | Fri, Jun. 20, 2003 | David Bauder

Posted on 06/21/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by demlosers

NEW YORK - In an unusual step for a television network, the Sci Fi Channel is campaigning to persuade the government to be more forthcoming and aggressive in investigating UFO sightings.

Sci Fi has hired former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta as a Washington lobbyist, sponsored a symposium on interstellar travel and is considering a court effort to declassify documents related to a 1965 incident in Pennsylvania.

The network will premiere a documentary, "Out of the Blue," Tuesday at 9 p.m. (Eastern and Pacific time zones) that methodically lays out an argument that there's something out there.

Most TV networks are reluctant to spend money for anything other than self-interest. The few public interest efforts are hardly controversial: Lifetime promoting breast cancer research, for example, or MTV's Rock the Vote campaign to encourage young people to register.

But by fighting for UFO probes, Sci Fi is wading into an area that invites not only dissent, but also ridicule.

"It's very, very tough for people to take this subject seriously," said Ed Rothschild, a lobbyist in Podesta's firm. "We thought the only way it was going to be seriously addressed is to have serious people talk about it, scientists."

Rothschild won't even identify the members of Congress he's talked to about leaning on the government for more openness about UFOs. He's afraid they'll never help if their names come out and they're laughed at.

Even believers are reluctant to talk about the issue.

After hearing that former President Carter once saw a UFO, "Out of the Blue" filmmaker James Fox repeatedly, and unsuccessfully, asked Carter's representatives for an interview. Undaunted, Fox essentially ambushed Carter with a camera one day at a book-signing. Carter confirmed the incident but his brevity and forced smile indicated he wasn't happy to be answering.

Given the "giggle factor" that surrounds UFOs, Sci Fi is taking a chance with its reputation, Fox said.

"I don't think there's a risk because the questions need to be asked," said Thomas Vitale, Sci Fi's senior vice president of programming. "Even somebody who is the biggest skeptic in the world ... still wants the questions answered. And who better to do it?"

The mission isn't entirely altruistic, of course. The Sci Fi Channel, which is seen in about three-quarters of the nation's TV households, polled viewers on the topic. Evidence of keen interest is also seen in the ratings.

Last November's documentary on the celebrated, suspected 1947 UFO crash in Roswell, N.M., was the highest-rated special in the network's 11-year history. It was seen by nearly 2.4 million people, or about 2 1/2 times Sci Fi's usual prime-time audience.

"Our main goal is not to find a UFO," Vitale said. "The goal is finding the truth. We're expanding and exploring the blurry line between what is science fiction and what is science fact."

Vitale wouldn't say how much Sci Fi is spending on this. The network sponsored an archaeological excavation at Roswell, will debut a public service announcement Tuesday and has four new UFO specials in the works.

It is backing an effort to get U.S. Air Force records released on a 1965 incident in Kecksburg, Pa., where some witnesses believe a UFO crashed. This may end up in court, Rothschild said.

Fox, a San Francisco-based journalist, never thought much about UFOs until a visit nine years ago to Nevada, when he and his friends watched a saucer-shaped object hover silently in the sky then dart away.

"When I got home, I was met with laughter," he said. "No one believed me, even my family. I thought, if my own family doesn't believe me, who does?"

Intrigued, he began looking into other UFO incidents. He sold a 1998 documentary to the Discovery Channel and shopped "Out of the Blue" to the same network, but said he was told Discovery no longer buys pro-UFO films. (A Discovery spokeswoman denied this.)

So he went to Sci Fi. Fox considers 95 percent of reported UFO incidents bunk, either hoaxes or easily explained conventional phenomena. And don't count him among people who believe aliens already live among us.

But that still leaves a significant number of mysterious cases. "Out of the Blue" outlines several, concentrating on the most reputable of witnesses - former astronauts, military and government officials, topped off by an ex-president.

Fox's storytelling is sober, not sensational. Summing up incidents at the end of the film, Fox gives the official government explanations of what happened, and they're often more ridiculous than the sightings themselves.

"You get to a point where you can no longer dismiss each and every episode," he said.

Fox and Rothschild can think of several reasons why the government doesn't want to talk about UFOs:

_ The military doesn't want to spend time or money on something that isn't perceived as a threat.

_ Officials may also like the secrecy; it keeps other governments guessing about what kind of new weapon technologies might be in the works.

_ It could also be embarrassing, since it can expose what they don't know and the limitations of human technology.

_ And who wants to set off a "War of the Worlds"-type incident?

Fox envisions the public announcement that could come with such an event: "We don't know where they come from, we don't know what they're doing. We can't stop them if they become hostile and they can fly rings around all of our aircraft.

"Thank you, and good night."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: area51; buildthewall; extraterrestrials; johnpodesta; podkletnov; scifi; scifichannel; space; syfy; ufo; ufos
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To: Poohbah
I'm a pretty transparent person.

I try to mean what I say and say what I mean.

But I find that every so often people still misunderstand me because our reference points are too divergent or we have very different definitions of common words or some such mystifying thing.

I'm usually not very biting with people I care for and respect as I do you.

I reserve such things for really awful people like Billdo et al and people hereon occasionally who are really harsh and nasty repeatedly with me.

You may have thought you were being that way to me but I haven't construed it that way. So, I don't think of you that way and don't have those reflexes toward you.

I will try to be more careful with my words but I was being careful when I wrote that sentence. I was shocked by your response. I thought you'd recognize my efforts to somewhat tenderly on my part to reaffirm my easy agreement that you were not XYZ.

Sigh.
141 posted on 06/24/2003 9:04:54 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Riley
In spite of all of the unmitigated BS in 'Ufology', I wouldn't be too surprised, when all is said and done, if there are 'others' in the universe, and if they had looked in on us at some point.

And I agree.

142 posted on 06/24/2003 9:07:10 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: All
Anyone watching these witnesses in Phoenix? Seems like *very* credible people.....
143 posted on 06/24/2003 9:13:08 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf; Riley
Didn't see it. But agree with you and Riley, the BS in ufology is enough to make one throw their hands up and just walk away.

And yet the thing can't be dismissed.
144 posted on 06/24/2003 9:15:22 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
They seemed like real people to me just relating what they perceived from their daily life experiences on a not too common day/night.

I found them quite believable.

But I need to check with my Phoenix relatives about what they saw.

Have never done that yet.
145 posted on 06/24/2003 9:16:21 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Sam Cree
They were all *very* impressive witnesses.
146 posted on 06/24/2003 9:24:33 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Quix
I found them quite believable.

I concur and the local politician in Phoenix that came on the news later that night made an ass out of himself, by bringing on the alien man costume, none of the witnesses thought he was cute and were pretty offended. These witnesses seemed very credible, and not the types that one would think would do this. I was impressed by all of their statements....

147 posted on 06/24/2003 9:28:24 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Just checked out your profile page and admired the photos.

I've been playing with the idea of getting a telescope for awhile, maybe not as good as yours though. I suppose there's no way to have one that you can use to look at both boats and stars.
148 posted on 06/24/2003 9:37:53 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
Yes there is, some can be used for terrestrial and astronomical use. Check the internet.

Are you watching this UFO thing. The incident out of Vandenberg was stunning.

149 posted on 06/24/2003 9:45:44 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
No, I don't have cable or I'd have it on.

Any recommendations on telescope brands?
150 posted on 06/24/2003 9:47:48 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
Meade Instruments. Meade makes quality scopes as does Celestron.....
151 posted on 06/24/2003 9:50:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Sam Cree
Try this link Sam.

http://www.meade.com/

152 posted on 06/24/2003 9:52:36 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Thanks.

Hitting the rack.
153 posted on 06/24/2003 9:54:41 PM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Sam Cree
Check out www.telescope.com, or maybe Costco. I saw a posting a while back about a Meade 60mm "goto" (closeout, I believe) for a pretty cheap price.

I'd do a search for "buying(purchasing?) a telescope" too, for tips and explanations. "The scope that gets used is better
than the one that is a pain to haul and setup", and as such, doesn't get used that much.

Art Bell used to advertise www.forthenightsky.com ("so big, it comes in a coffin"...but Art lives in the desert too.)

Also, there's a Sky&Telescope magazine (for the ads and articles), among others, that B&N carries, for instance.

154 posted on 06/24/2003 10:10:20 PM PDT by Calvin Locke
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To: Calvin Locke
Thanks, Calvin.
155 posted on 06/25/2003 6:20:48 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Quix
Any transcript available?

No, I don't think so.

Hey thanks for the running commentary on the show and still reading the thread. I'm in Europe for the moment and can't get the Sci Fi Channel.

156 posted on 06/25/2003 12:26:26 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
U R MOST WELCOME.

Thanks for your kind post.
157 posted on 06/25/2003 7:45:14 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: demlosers; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; ...
EVIDENTLY there's a couple of attractive UFO programs on tap on the Sci Fi channel for tonight.

I should be home. If so, would be happy to facilitate a live discussion of the programs again. The first one evidently starts 19:00 EDT???

Anyway--blessings,
158 posted on 07/01/2003 12:37:59 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: Quix
I wish we received the Sci-Fi channel here. Let us know if anything of value is shown.
159 posted on 07/01/2003 12:40:46 PM PDT by LanPB01
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To: Quix
Thanks, I'll tune in tonight.
160 posted on 07/01/2003 12:54:53 PM PDT by janetgreen
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