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New TV Outrage - A New Low For TV:
Parent Television Council ^ | Parent Television Council

Posted on 06/20/2003 6:04:02 PM PDT by webber

New TV Outrage - A New Low For TV:

YOUR IMMEDIATE HELP NEEDED TO DRIVE THIS GROSSLY INDECENT GARBAGE OFF TV AND OUT OF OUR HOMES...

First, we apologize to you in advance for asking you to read the filth below.  WARNING: it's EXTREMELY offensive. 

DON'T LET ANY CHILDREN READ THIS E-MAIL!

But millions of children were already exposed to it on TV, and you need to know how totally sick some TV shows marketed to children have become.

Here's what millions of impressionable youngsters across America who tuned in to the new Fox-TV show, "Keen Eddie," were subjected to last Tuesday evening (June 10) --

The plot involved a case about black market traffic in horse semen.  Detective Eddie hired a prostitute (whose ad in the newspaper read, "Forty Year Old Filthy Slut. Will Do Anything") to have sex with a horse!!!

FILE YOUR FORMAL INDECENCY COMPLAINT AGAINST THE JUNE 10, 2003 EPISODE OF FOX-TV's "KEEN EDDIE" WITH THE FEDERAL COMMUNICATIONS COMMISSION (FCC) NOW!

This is what you letter to the FCC will look like:


To: Federal Communications Commission
(FCC), Washington, D.C.

Michael K. Powell, Chairman
Kathleen Q. Abernathy
Jonathan S. Adelstein
Michael J. Copps
Kevin J. Martin

RE:   OFFICIAL FCC TELEVISION INDECENCY COMPLAINT:

This is a formal COMPLAINT of indecency on broadcast television. My complaint concerns the PROGRAM ON:
NETWORK:  FOX-TV
PROGRAM TITLE:  "Keen Eddie"
BROADCAST DATE: June 10, 2003
BROADCAST TIME:  9:00 PM Eastern & Pacific Time, 8:00 PM Central & Mountain Time

Documentation of the indecent material on which my COMPLAINT is based is provided below.  A video tape of this entire episode of "Keen Eddie" is available from the Parents Television Council. PLEASE KEEP ME INFORMED OF THE PROGRESS AND RESULTS OF YOUR INVESTIGATION INTO THIS MATTER.

COMPLAINANT believes that this material is in context and fully representative of the show's overall tone and quality.

COMPLAINANT also declares that such material is:

The FCC should exercise its responsibility to enforce the existing law against indecency on broadcast TV between the hours of 6 a.m. and 10 p.m. (Title 18, U.S. Code, Section 1464) by levying severe sanctions against the broadcasters of this program.

PLEASE KEEP ME INFORMED OF THE PROGRESS AND RESULTS OF YOUR INVESTIGATION INTO THIS MATTER. SYNOPSIS, June 10, 2003 EPISODE OF "Keen Eddie"

The plot involved a case about black market traffic in horse semen.  Detective Eddie hired a prostitute (whose ad in the newspaper read, "Forty Year Old Filthy Slut. Will Do Anything") to have sex with a horse.

When the prostitute showed up at the stable, Keen Eddie's thugs asked her to have sexual intercourse with a horse because they needed its semen. 

Actual dialogue:

Prostitute: --No, that's not natural.
Thug: --------Extraction for insemination. If you look at the picture on  page 45 you'll see how natural it is...
Prostitute: --Forget it!
Another Thug: --You're a 40-year old filthy slut, you'll do anything...
Prostitute: --With a human...

The prostitute finally agrees to go through with it.  She goes to the stable and attempts to arouse the horse, but the horse drops dead. 

She explains, "I never laid a finger on it.  I lifted up my blouse, that's all… he needs to get aroused.  I happen to know a little something on this subject."


CLICK HERE TO SUBMIT YOUR PROTEST TO ALL 5 FCC COMMISSIONERS

A copy of this COMPLAINT will be sent in your name to Gateway, Subway, Pier 1 and Nissan as a sponsor of this program, with the following message:


I am outraged at the frightening increase in violence, sex, filth, smutty humor and coarse language on prime-time television. TV shows have been poisoned by a flood of offensive material that is helping destroy family values and seriously harming America's children and grandchildren… and SPONSORS LIKE YOU ARE PAYING FOR IT WITH YOUR ADVERTISING DOLLARS!

In particular, TV was poisoned by the June 10, 2003 episode of "Keen Eddie" aired on Fox-TV and sponsored by {name of sponsor}.

As a consumer, I am taking part in this grassroots campaign organized by the Parents Television Council (PTC) to urge you and all commercial TV Sponsors to STOP USING YOUR ADVERTISING DOLLARS TO UNDERWRITE THE FILTH AND VIOLENCE THAT IS POISONING THE MINDS OF MILLIONS OF IMPRESSIONABLE YOUNGSTERS.

I hope and expect to hear from the PTC that {name of sponsor} has adopted a new and more responsible advertising policy that will preclude sponsorship of any program containing material as indecent as that featured in the June 10 broadcast of "Keen Eddie."

Sincerely,

Your Name


 

Call or Send a snail mail to the commissioners: Federal Communications Commission
445 12th Street SW
Washington, DC 20554
Phone: 888-CALL-FCC (225-5322)
TTY: 888-TELL-FCC (835-5322)
Fax: 202-418-0232


  1. Go to Complaint To FCC and sign the formal indecency complaint to the FCC (Federal Communications Commission) against this "Keen Eddie" broadcast.  The FCC is supposed to enforce the federal law against broadcast TV indecency during children's viewing hours.  Please help us flood the FCC with complaints about this "Keen Eddie" atrocity.

  2. When you sign the FCC complaint, the PTC will also generate on your behalf a WARNING TO SPONSORS addressed to four of the national advertisers whose commercial dollars paid to air this show on Fox-TV.  Your warning alerts Gateway Computers, Subway Restaurants, Pier 1 and Nissan Motor Company that you are shocked at their irresponsibility in paying for such filth-filled content.

  3. ALSO VERY IMPORTANT -- FORWARD THIS E-MAIL TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY NOW SO THEY CAN JOIN THE FIGHT.

Fox-TV's descent into this moral sewer was paid for by the sponsors who bought commercial time on this show.  

They include companies like Gateway, Subway, Pier 1 and Nissan -- all nationally-known brands that want to be  perceived as friends of the American family.

How can they allow their commercial dollars to pay for polluting our homes with graphic filth like this?  Whether these companies intended it or not, this kind of content directly violates the moral standards of decent families, especially those with young children. 

When TV Sponsors advertise on shows containing content like this -- whether it's bestiality and foul language on "Keen Eddie," or the  barrage of ultra-violence and references to oral sex, threesomes, masturbation and homosexuality documented by the PTC on other prime-time broadcast network shows -- we must hold the sponsors accountable for attempting to destroy our children's and grandchildren's moral values and character.

Moreover, your official indecency complaint to the FCC will support our campaign to demand that the FCC investigate, fine, and possibly pull station licenses of the Fox-TV affiliates who aired this "Keen Eddie" show.

And, hopefully, many of your friends and family will also forward this e-mail, so the FCC INDECENCY COMPLAINT and WARNING TO SPONSORS will be multiplied many, many times over!

We need you and a lot of other decent folks to take immediate action. Please don't delay.


With urgent thanks,

Parents Television Council


P.S. Go now to FCC INDECENCY COMPLAINT to file your FCC INDECENCY COMPLAINT and to generate your WARNING TO SPONSORS.  This is how, TOGETHER WITH YOU, the Parents Television Council will stop the flood of filth, depravity, foul language and sick, ultra-violence on TV: overwhelming grass roots pressure brought to bear on one network, one show, and one sponsor at a time.

Also-PLEASE FORWARD THIS TO YOUR FRIENDS AND FAMILY NOW SO THEY CAN JOIN THE FIGHT. 

Thank you.

Parent Television Council


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To: FreeReign
"BTW, if you are going to join in a conversation that two posters are having I would highly recommend that you read all of the effing posts that the two posters have made so that you don't take any of the comments out of effing context. "

The first to resort to cussing loses the argument. (no "effing" itself isn't a cuss word but it means the same thing.)
281 posted on 06/20/2003 11:26:33 PM PDT by honeygrl
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To: FreeReign
BTW, if you are going to join in a conversation that two posters are having I would highly recommend that you read all of the effing posts that the two posters have made so that you don't take any of the comments out of effing context.

I read the “effing” post you made to mhking – Post # 110 – your initial comment is bolded…

“But it is not YOUR place to tell me what my child can and cannot watch. I am the parent of my children, and I will make that decision, thank you very much.”

If a parent wants his 4 year old child to watch hard-core porn, would that be all-right with you?

Yes, that is the post I responded to. I also read several responses to your “effing” ignorant comment later in the thread. Your “effing” comment did not sit well with several folks, did it?

You made a completely ignorant “effing” comment and, obviously, decline to deal with that fact.

LVM

282 posted on 06/20/2003 11:28:08 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: FreeReign
You then for some unknown reason thought I was asking the question to you and then you criticized me for doing it -- get it. Read the freeping context!!!

No, I did not think you were asking me the question.

I thought it to be a really ignorant response to the other posters statement.

LVM

283 posted on 06/20/2003 11:32:10 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: honeygrl
The first to resort to cussing loses the argument. (no "effing" itself isn't a cuss word but it means the same thing.)

Honeygrl, I would suggest to you too, that if you are going to join in a conversation that two posters are having, that you should read all of the comments.

See post #270 by the other poster -- it's where the "first to resort to cussing" began.

From post #270 -- Again, WTF is your point?

284 posted on 06/20/2003 11:35:10 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition<P>Answer)
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To: webber
Hadn't seen this and rarely watch FOX, although I will watch FX for the MASH reruns. This is disgusting
285 posted on 06/20/2003 11:37:17 PM PDT by billbears (Deo Vindice)
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To: LasVegasMac
Your post #282 gives no logical reason why my question to the other poster would be inappropriate. Your, "do you beat your wife" example is idiotic.

You now initiate name calling so I will respond in kind.

You an idiot, don't waste my time.

286 posted on 06/20/2003 11:45:46 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition<P>Answer)
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To: LasVegasMac
Your “effing” comment did not sit well with several folks, did it?

BTW, this statement of yours above is an example of group think. Something must be right because two other people agree with it. That's your logic.

287 posted on 06/20/2003 11:50:46 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition<P>Answer)
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To: FreeReign
You an idiot,

Nice.

You really do need the map drawn out for you, don't you?

Post 282 was in response to your comment about me butting in between two posters and not understanding the context.

Fact was you had no "context" prior to your ignorant statement.

Go play in another sandbox, jerk.

LVM

288 posted on 06/20/2003 11:51:25 PM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: honeygrl
The Bible talks about incest, prostitution, etc. because it is giving a moral message. A child who is an avid reader of the Bible, if they can even understand it, probably isn't going to be of the same moral caliber as a child who is an avid watcher of Keen Eddie. I would venture to say that the same could be said for most adults as well. Not that every TV program produced in this country should be required by the government to give a moral message; however, the government does and should have a role in regulating what is on TV. I don't want to live in a country where anything goes on TV, but it sounds and looks like we are heading to that low. I'm not Alec Baldwin and don't plan on leaving, but it's a shame to see we are going the same route as sleazy old Europe. Europe just happened to venture out on their journey a few days before we did.

I do have to agree with you on that Schindler's List "old man parts" though. I know for me, seeing a reenactment of people being stripped of their dignity and hussled off to their deaths by the Nazis was a real side splitter. I slapped my knee so hard it started to hurt and nearly peed my pants.

Yes, it was shown unedited on TV. Now that I have seen your post, I understand the reason why it was presented in that fashion. It wasn't to convey the human suffering and horrors perpetrated by one of the most evil regimes in history as I had first thought. It was so that the people at home who hadn't seen it in the theater could also get a good chuckle.
289 posted on 06/20/2003 11:56:41 PM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: LasVegasMac
Go play in another sandbox, jerk.

You go elsewhere "jerk". I will continue to address any similar absolute statements about parents having the ABSOLUTE right for their kids to watch ANYTHING. You are a rude SOB.

290 posted on 06/20/2003 11:59:38 PM PDT by FreeReign (V5.0 Enterprise Edition<P>Answer)
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To: FreeReign
BTW, this statement of yours above is an example of group think.

No, it was not group think on my part. I knew right away, after reading your first post, that you were way off the mark with that ignornat comment.

So did others. Go re-read the responses you got.

Like I said, I took exception to the ignorant statement you made - as did other folks. And I'm letting you know about it.

There was no "context", as you claim - you flat out made a dumb a$$ comment.

As the saying goes, "Life is hard enough, son, don't make it harder by being stupid."

LVM

291 posted on 06/21/2003 12:02:10 AM PDT by LasVegasMac
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To: FreeReign
I will continue to address any similar absolute statements about parents having the ABSOLUTE right for their kids to watch ANYTHING.

So your original question....

If a parent wants his 4 year old child to watch hard-core porn, would that be all-right with you?

...is actually a statement? Is that what you are saying?

ummm....

LVM

292 posted on 06/21/2003 12:16:10 AM PDT by LasVegasMac
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keep your kids out of the library, because they might read a tenesee williams book. in fact keep them at home, because they might talk to some kids who went to the library and read a tenessee williams book.
293 posted on 06/21/2003 2:15:56 AM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (If God hadn't meant for them to be sheared, he wouldn't have made them sheep.)
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To: FreeReign
I will continue to address any similar absolute statements about parents having the ABSOLUTE right for their kids to watch ANYTHING.

You can address what you want.

I will parent my children. My wife has some input, as do both sets of our parents. Are you in either category? No? Then, quite frankly, I don't give a damn about what you think regarding my parenting skills.

I'm doing (in my NOT so humble opinion) well enough without some puritanical know it all sticking their nose into my home.

And additionally, (sensitivity be damned) you can take your hypothetical accusatory question, fold it six ways and do something unmentionable with it.

I'm not being sensitive; I'm being realistic. I WILL RAISE MY CHILDREN. You won't.

294 posted on 06/21/2003 3:42:19 AM PDT by mhking
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To: Mihalis
"The point is our declining values and standards, signs of a declining culture. "

Exactly!

If you determine that the material is filth and/or unsuitable, the material may very well become a part of the unavoidable environment in which you, your children, and their children must live. Any resulting REAL depravity, any resulting REAL violent tendencies, or any resulting social damages done to our culture are very real damages done to us IN SPITE OF our choosing to avoid the filth, garbage, violent material.

I realize the problem of setting the lines as to what should or shouldn't be allowed. I suggest that it be the same as concerning pornography and the the judges definition - "I know it when I see it". It worked in the past and it can work now. In fact, if you think about it, there IS a system of this kind of line "drawing" now, it is only a question of how extreme the positioning of the line is or is not. I mean, where are the sitcoms about "families" of groups of 3 or more men who adopt young boys for the sole reason of anal intercourse? Where are all the hip new shows about young teenage girls who only find fulfillment by having group sex with entire athletic teams? Where are the cool shows about creative torture? Where are they? They are behind a line that naturally exists and always will. I insist that that a HUGE quantity of existing programming is beyond that line of decency and social responsibility. I insist that shows like the original in question (as well as probably over 50% of existing commercial TV) is past that line. In fact, I think a process of slowly "sliding toes" past that line has made commercial TV the load of decadent garbage that it is. We certainly shouldn't be surprised when the same lack of morality, the same lack of standards of decency, and the same lack of common goodness is reflected in our society. Likewise, wee shouldn't be surprised with the problems interjected by continual exposure to such decadence, indecency and lack of morality. Everywhere around you will be the effects of this travesty.

Either you decide to have no line and declare that ANYthing is allowed - in other words, kill your society - or you decide that the line, that will exist in any other case, should be drawn in a manner that will support decency and oppose chaos and decadence. That there is any debate about this at all is the stunning surprise to me.

295 posted on 06/21/2003 5:58:40 AM PDT by Will
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To: KneelBeforeZod
What world are you living in--children reading a book! I don't think so. That's the problem with children today. Most of them aren't reading books--they're watching filth on TV like Keen Eddie. At least if they were reading, they would be exercising their minds.
296 posted on 06/21/2003 7:34:12 AM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: Will
No Will, face up to it. We are just puritanical facists for thinking that hiring a prostitute to have sex with a horse isn't must see TV. Seems around here that if it makes it to TV it must be okay. Can't wait to see what quality programming is produced in the next 25 years. NAMBlA will probably have it's own TV station by then and by GOD no uptight prude is going to tell me that my grandkids (hopefully by that time) can't watch grown men fornicating with little boys. It's my right as an American!
297 posted on 06/21/2003 7:44:40 AM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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To: beaversmom
Ummm... idiotic analogy, beaversmom - Grown men having sex with young children is ILLEGAL. Making a joke about an aging prostitute killing a horse by exposing herself to it is NOT.

(By the way, it was only TV and the horse wan't really dead or injured.)

Get a grip. No one, and I mean NO ONE here is advocating the rape of young children on film...
298 posted on 06/21/2003 8:10:29 AM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: beaversmom
No the problem is all of ours because we all have to live in the same society where children without parental limits live. This affects us crime wise, money wise, and contributes to the worsening of the moral climate in this country.

Ah, the first voice of sanity on this thread. How Conservatism turned into a libertine free-for-all I do not know. Your response is one that conservatives at one time would have instinctively supported. It is evident from the responses on this thread that there is ignorance that: 1) the FCC has the role of regulating the airwaves as spelled out by Congress; 2) the idea that freedom of speech does not equal visual or aural pornography.

Many of those who would oppose an activist judiciary or an "evolving Constitution" are here found supporting "freedoms" that the original founders never intended. The pornogrification of this culture in the last 30 years has led to a depraved society.

Many of those posting have not known any other world than this; I guess that is their defense, I can't think of anything else to justify calling pornography a right and a freedom.

299 posted on 06/21/2003 8:28:22 AM PDT by happygrl
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I've got a grip. Prostitution and having sex with animals is illegal as well. If I had told someone twenty five years ago that "jokes" about a prostitute having sex with a horse would be on primetime TV, they might have told me to get a grip too. Well, maybe NAMBLA won't be having sex with children on TV--I was going overboard on the sarcasm--but they might be making "jokes" about it. I'm sorry but both are deprave. I don't know if the government should step in on this particular case, but Fox and its advertisers should be made aware that many people don't think this is good TV. We live in a free country but that doesn't mean there shouldn't be any standards and responsibility.

By the way, it was only TV and the horse wasn't really dead or injured

What do you think--I'm a hysterical puritanical fascist who belongs to PETA?

300 posted on 06/21/2003 8:37:21 AM PDT by beaversmom (Celebrating May 5th and all days with an American Flag)
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