Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mixed Premises: A Critique of Murray Rothbard’s “Sociology of the Ayn Rand Cult”
The Rational Argumentator ^ | June 18, 2003 | G. Stolyarov II

Posted on 06/19/2003 3:35:54 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II

click here to read article


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-77 next last
G. Stolyarov II is a science fiction novelist, independent philosophical essayist, poet, amateur mathematician and composer, contributor to Enter Stage Right and SoloHQ, writer for Objective Medicine, and Editor-in-Chief of The Rational Argumentator. He can be contacted at gennadystolyarovii@yahoo.com.
1 posted on 06/19/2003 3:35:54 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II
Receive updates from the world of Reason, Rights, and Progress. Sign up for The Rational Argumentator's FREE mailing list at http://www.geocities.com/rationalargumentator/registrationform.html
2 posted on 06/19/2003 3:36:53 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II (http://www.geocities.com/rationalargumentator/index15.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II
What do you have to do to be a member of this Ayn Rand cult? Do you have to pay dues or what?
3 posted on 06/19/2003 3:43:02 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II
I was going to read this post, but after I saw the length of it I figured I might as well just read "Atlas Shrugged" and see for myself.
4 posted on 06/19/2003 3:45:49 PM PDT by AAABEST
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II
How timely, how appropriate - whether or not coincidental.

Thank you for posting. I shall further pursue your offerings.
5 posted on 06/19/2003 3:51:16 PM PDT by Princeton
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

Comment #6 Removed by Moderator

To: Prodigal Son
No, this is precisely what my article contends: the so-called Ayn Rand cult is just a flawed designation invented by Murray Rothbard. It was in fact a circle of Rand's closest associates, which frequently interacted with each other on the subjects of philosophy, economics, aesthetics, politics, and business.
7 posted on 06/19/2003 4:01:50 PM PDT by G. Stolyarov II (http://www.geocities.com/rationalargumentator/index15.html)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Quatermass
I think your characterization of "Randians" applies equally well to all "true believers", regardless of ideology. But does that necessarily make the ideology bad?
8 posted on 06/19/2003 4:13:06 PM PDT by Barry Goldwater
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II
That was a feeble attempt at humour on my part.

Your piece is 6500 words long or thereabouts. I'll have to wait until I have some time in order to read it.

9 posted on 06/19/2003 4:18:01 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: *Ayn_Rand_List
Indexing
10 posted on 06/19/2003 4:20:05 PM PDT by lelio
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Prodigal Son
Do you have to pay dues or what?

Yes, send me $99.99 and I will send you instructions.

11 posted on 06/19/2003 4:30:37 PM PDT by razorback-bert (White Devils for Al-Sharpton 2004... Texas Chapter)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: lelio
'Objectivism' ...

rugged individual evolutionalism vs socisl marxist - evolutionalism ---

same results // different means !

Capitalistic atheist cult vs communist atheist cult ---

both whacks !
12 posted on 06/19/2003 4:35:41 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm going to rechristen evolution, in honor of f.Christian, "shlockology"... HumanaeVitae ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
So...are you a computer program...or what?
13 posted on 06/19/2003 4:38:26 PM PDT by dark_lord (The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II
My possibly less than highly proficient mind wonders if you've seen Jim Peron's take on this old topic?
14 posted on 06/19/2003 4:39:51 PM PDT by decimon
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: AAABEST
LOL
15 posted on 06/19/2003 4:44:53 PM PDT by Teacher317
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: f.Christian
"If Patrick Henry hasn't fully learned this lesson, its liberal detractors are worse off: Their view of freedom has produced intellectual chaos. As Reformation leader Martin Luther once put it, sinful man is like a drunken fellow who falls off one side of his horse, only to get back up and fall off the other side. Luther's drunken man is looking more and more like an Ivy League professor."

"In a 1992 essay for Time, Robert Hughes excoriated intellectuals for empty theorizing while Soviet Communism disintegrated and Chinese Communism was bloodied by the Tiananmen Square massacre. "The world changes more deeply, widely, thrillingly than at any moment since 1917. . . and the American academic left keeps fretting about how phallocentricity is inscribed in Dickens' portrayal of Little Nell."13 Hughes shouldn't have been surprised. Much of the academy—discarding both moral and scholarly ideals—has been hobbled by intellectual vertigo for decades. Before Allan Bloom's Closing of the American Mind came Robert Nisbet's The Degradation of the Academic Dogma, and before that the 1945 Harvard Report, an attempt by a group of professors to envision a new purpose for the university in light of wartime threats to democracy. The committee came close to recommending a return to classical education. "The goal of education," it said, "is not in conflict with but largely includes the goals of religious education, education in the Western tradition, and education in modern democracy."14

"Not even the heartless evil of September 11, however, could produce a similar statement among today's academic gatekeepers. The war on terrorism, in fact, has stirred little serious reflection on the nature of religious conflict or America's political and spiritual resources to counter it. Instead, university-bred élites have treated us to lines like this: "We all know that one man's terrorist is another man's freedom fighter."15 That suggests not merely an intellectual crisis in the academy, but a moral one."

"Indeed, Allan Bloom argued poignantly that students were being denied access to the foundations of republican virtue—having in mind the Bible no less than The Republic or The Federalist. "A life based on the Book is closer to the truth, [because] it provides the material for deeper research in and access to the real nature of things," he wrote. "Without the great revelations, epics, and philosophies as part of our natural vision, there is nothing to see out there, and eventually little left inside."16 More recently, Bruce Cole, chairman of the National Endowment for the Humanities, cautioned against neglecting the deepest sources of democratic values. "Defending our democracy demands more than successful military campaigns," he told an audience at New York University. "It also requires an understanding of the ideals, ideas and institutions that have shaped our country."

"In this sense, the Western moral tradition represents a much deeper rebuke to secular liberals than to religious fundamentalists."

"As Cole warns: "A nation that does not know ... why it exists, or what it stands for --- cannot be expected to long endure."

"The purpose of an open mind, G.K. Chesterton once advised, is the same as that of an open mouth: to shut it on something solid. By being forever open on nearly all questions, the secular academy has severed the link between real intellectual inquiry and moral conviction. Schools dedicated to the liberal arts tradition, especially those upholding Christian orthodoxy, are in the best position to mend the breach."

Joseph Loconte is the William E. Simon Fellow in Religion and a Free Society at the Heritage Foundation and a regular commentator on religion for National Public Radio.

Copyright © 2003 by the author or Christianity Today International/Books & Culture magazine.

Click ... here --- for reprint information on Books & Culture. May/June 2003, Vol. 9, No. 3, Page 30

16 posted on 06/19/2003 4:48:12 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm going to rechristen evolution, in honor of f.Christian, "shlockology"... HumanaeVitae ))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: Prodigal Son

No, but you are expected to recite the Moral-Liberal pledge to turn a blind eye to evil.

17 posted on 06/19/2003 4:50:53 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: G. Stolyarov II; Admin Moderator
Is this all you do here, post screeds from your own vanity GeoCities webpage?
18 posted on 06/19/2003 4:53:25 PM PDT by Cultural Jihad
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Cultural Jihad
Not sure I follow you there.
19 posted on 06/19/2003 4:56:35 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 17 | View Replies]

To: dark_lord
So...are you a computer program...or what?

LOL! You're braver than me. f.Christian is the only Freeper I am afraid of. I just can't work up the nerve to post to him/her/it.

20 posted on 06/19/2003 4:59:45 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-2021-4041-6061-77 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
News/Activism
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson