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Push to deny flush toilets to world's poor smacks of hypocrisy
Jewish World Review ^ | June 19, 2003 | Tom Randall

Posted on 06/19/2003 8:19:34 AM PDT by DesignerChick

Push to deny flush toilets to world's poor smacks of hypocrisy Tom Randall- JWR

The environmental elitists who sip champagne and nibble on caviar at fund-raisers in their swank Gold Coast penthouses here often remind me of Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake" coterie in the waning days of Louis XVI. Friends of the earth, but not of mankind, they first denied developing countries the mosquito-killing benefits of DDT - and millions of Asians and Africans have died as a result. Then they joined forces with protectionists in Europe to persuade African leaders not to accept shipments of genetically modified corn from the United States that might have eased that continent's current widespread famine and saved additional millions from the ghastly prospect of slow death by starvation. Now, it seems, they're intent on stepping from the cruelly absurd into the utterly ridiculous. A growing number of environmentalists are pushing to deny several billion African and Asian poor people the hygienic benefits of Sir Thomas Crapper's most famous invention - the modern flush toilet. Although the industrialized nations of Europe and North America have enjoyed the convenience of the flush toilet for more than a hundred years, the elitists who lead the environmental movement prefer that the world's poor continued to be saddled with unsanitary outdoor toilets. Allowing the 2 billion or so people who subsist on $2 a day to exchange a compost toilet for a Kohler, they fret, would create an international water crisis. The environmentalists will push their latest cause celebre at the first annual International Dry Toilet Conference in Tampere, Finland, in late August. Flush toilets in developing nations like China, India and Nigeria "will just be an environmental disaster," warns Larry Warnberg, a featured speaker at the conference. "I think it is a mistake to inflict that costly convenience on a developing country without realizing what the consequences are." Eco-activists maintain that developing nations in Africa don't have the sewage infrastructure or the water supplies to sustain a sharp increase in flush toilets. Only 13 percent of Africa's 840 million people use flush toilets connected to a sewer system. That compares to 100 percent of the United States and Canada's 312 million people and 92 percent of Europe's 728 million residents. Warnberg, who will address his fellow anti-flushers on the topic "Reducing Regulatory Barriers to Compost Toilets," also - perhaps not so coincidentally - markets a manual on how to build a do-it-yourself "dry" toilet from his Nahcotta, Wash.,-based Web site. Dry toilets cost about $1,000 plus labor to build using Warnberg's plans. They cost about $2,000 to buy already manufactured. They operate by collecting human urine and feces in a container, but require emptying by humans on a periodic basis. Environmentalists claim they are wonderful device for poor people in Africa and Asia because the waste materials can be used as fertilizer to produce larger yields from soil that lacks rich nutrients. Gushes Tittina Repka, the secretary of the coming Finnish conference: "A proper dry toilet system that recycles urine and feces as a compost product brings more productivity to crops and improves the quality of the land. It literally can help people feed themselves." But critics like Dennis Avery, director of Global Food Issues for The Hudson Institute and a former agricultural expert at the State Department, says compost toilets are hazardous to humans - and especially so in hot, humid tropical areas. "It's dangerous, dangerous, dangerous," Avery asserts. "You're talking about all kinds of bacterial perils because human manure has pathogens in it. Those pathogens can be transferred to crops and the flies that compost toilets breed can spread them among the general population." Think of your own neighborhood, Avery suggests. "Can you imagine everyone on your block dumping their household's human waste in their backyard on a daily basis? Think for a moment about the odor, the swarms of flies, the public health risk." The idea that the world is in the midst of catastrophic water crisis is being promoted by environmental groups, Avery observes, but it is pure fiction, not fact. Modern sewage systems account for only 5 percent to 10 percent of the world's water usage, while agriculture accounts for about 70 percent and industrial uses take an additional 23 percent. There's more than enough water to go around. Huge amounts of rainfall like that occurring in the Midwestern and Eastern parts of the United States this year more than make up for occasional droughts. More and better reservoirs, pumping stations and pipelines to transport water can solve the needs of developing nations without denying them the advantage of modern sewage systems and flush toilets. Wealthy American and European environmentalists should be ashamed at suggesting that poor Africans and Asians handle composted feces and spread them on food crops every day. To do so is to condemn hundreds of millions of the world's underprivileged to the plagues of cholera, tuberculosis and malaria. Surely no one who professes to care about the environment could be so heartless.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; Government; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events; Philosophy
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Typical Liberal Elitist Attitude.
1 posted on 06/19/2003 8:19:35 AM PDT by DesignerChick
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To: DesignerChick
"A growing number of environmentalists are pushing to deny several billion African and Asian poor people the hygienic benefits of Sir Thomas Crapper's most famous invention - the modern flush toilet."

Just once I would like the libs to suffer the consequence of their arrogance. How 'bout we dump all this waste on their homesteads. If they want to affect the environment, ("affect" - Double Entendre Alert!) let them be the storehouse for this waste and let them eat the organically grown crops that are fertilized with human excrement.

Or as Forrest Gump would opine, "Poop is as Poop Does!

2 posted on 06/19/2003 8:27:18 AM PDT by Young Werther
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To: DesignerChick
Absolute Madness!
3 posted on 06/19/2003 8:28:34 AM PDT by Don Corleone
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To: DesignerChick
The environmental elitists who sip champagne and nibble on caviar at fund-raisers in their swank Gold Coast penthouses here often remind me of Marie Antoinette's "let them eat cake"...

Except here, the liberals are basically saying, "Let them eat sh*t!" ;-)

4 posted on 06/19/2003 8:29:41 AM PDT by TheEngineer
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To: DesignerChick
You're preaching to the choir. But please, please break the ariticle up into paragraphs.
5 posted on 06/19/2003 8:33:13 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: DesignerChick
ariticle = article
6 posted on 06/19/2003 8:33:51 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: DesignerChick
Typical Liberal Elitist Attitude.

Typical Only Interest Liberal Elitist Turds. TOILET, for short.

7 posted on 06/19/2003 8:36:01 AM PDT by TruthShallSetYouFree
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To: DesignerChick
Not only that, but they are denying paragraph breaks to the poor as well!

The bastards!
8 posted on 06/19/2003 8:40:14 AM PDT by sharktrager (There are 2 kids of people in this world: people with loaded guns and people who dig.)
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To: DesignerChick
Whoa! Just a minute here. The world IS in a water crisis, contrary to what Mr. Avery says. Governments subsidize water use very heavily, as they do sanitary sewers. As a result, we tend to think of water (and sewage disposal) as free. In fact, less than one-half of one percent of the world's water is in a drinkable form.

Mr. Avery is either stupid or mendacious (or both). To catch the rainfall during floods is a nice idea, but is simply not feasible (it's too expensive because government subsidizes the alternatives). I just returned from West Texas, which God apparently didn't design to hold millions of people. When the lakes go dry, as Texans have conveniently forgotten, people can die.

Composting toilets COMPOST, so that pathogens are KILLED. The science of it is very simple. Which of us would like to drink a solution of ammonium nitrate? Yet that is exactly what commercial farmers use on the crops we buy in stores. Why is inert manure any worse as a fertilizer? Who is paying Mr. Avery? I'd wager he has a big research grant funded by someone with a vested interest in continuing our current big farming practices.

Of course, some big farming is probably optimal, and helps to feed alot of people who would otherwise starve. But when we have population growing faster than our ability to find alternative resources (including fresh water), then Malthus will have been right, after all. Ironically, it's because of big government, not private markets, that this may occur.

Unfortunately, we've all been deluded into thinking that capitalism means government subsidies of certain activities, such as water. We may all be using composting toilets sooner than we think, particularly if the users have to pay the true costs of wastewater treatment.
9 posted on 06/19/2003 8:46:31 AM PDT by mywholebodyisaweapon
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To: DesignerChick
Tam Ky, Vietnam, could use more flush toilets.
10 posted on 06/19/2003 8:49:34 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: DesignerChick
>> they first denied developing countries the mosquito-killing benefits of DDT - and millions of Asians and Africans have died as a result......

The author missed a big one. For years the Left waged relentless war against the Nestle company for selling a highly nutritious, life-saving infant formula powder in the third world. All the busybodies got into it -- the UN, international agencies, every freak in Berkeley. The rap was that Nestle was poisoning babies -- not because there was anything wrong with the formula, but because local water supplies MIGHT be poor and third-world mothers were too stupid to refrigerate or discard unused formula.

This went on unremittingly for years. Nestle finally got the message and bought them off with generous donations to all the leftist causes. Then, by magic, all the "problems" with infant formula in the third world disappeared.

Once again we learn what the Left is really about -- money. They SAY they fight for social justice and the working class, but their idea of justice turns out to be the almighty dollar -- and almost always dollars taxed away from real workers.

11 posted on 06/19/2003 8:50:45 AM PDT by T'wit
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To: DesignerChick
Environmentalists claim they are wonderful device for poor people in Africa and Asia because the waste materials can be used as fertilizer to produce larger yields from soil that lacks rich nutrients.

Fertilizing with human waste will cause even more health problems. These people are idiots. We have crap in our crap that just ain't fit to use on the crops.

12 posted on 06/19/2003 8:50:48 AM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: mywholebodyisaweapon
Governments subsidize water use very heavily, as they do sanitary sewers. As a result, we tend to think of water (and sewage disposal) as free.

This is most of the problem right here. If water were treated like any other commodity that was hard to get in some places and abundant in others- a lot of these problems would work themselves out.

13 posted on 06/19/2003 9:51:24 AM PDT by Prodigal Son
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To: DesignerChick
This mostly represents a "happy darkies" view of the third world. They're better off without our modern conveniences you see.
14 posted on 06/19/2003 11:37:06 AM PDT by MattAMiller (Down with the Mullahs! Peace, freedom, and prosperity for Iran.)
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To: DesignerChick

dry toilets

15 posted on 06/19/2003 11:53:45 AM PDT by razorback-bert (White Devils for Al-Sharpton 2004... Texas Chapter)
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To: Yehuda
The Left wishes we all lived like medieval peasants did so they can live high on the hog lording their "superior" wisdom over their lessers.
17 posted on 07/22/2003 11:12:47 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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