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At Nude Youth Camp, Skin Is Bare but Lust Is Verboten
NY Times ^ | June 18, 2003 | Kate Zernike

Posted on 06/18/2003 6:42:21 AM PDT by Constitution Day

The New York Times


June 18, 2003

At Nude Youth Camp, Skin Is Bare but Lust Is Verboten

By KATE ZERNIKE

LUTZ, Fla., June 12 — On the third-to-last day of summer camp, the temperature has risen to 98 degrees, and even the troupers have begun to whine.

"I don't want to play strip volleyball!" complained Jane Jeffries, 13, her sunburned shoulders sagging. "I want to play regular volleyball."

Halie Nelson, 14, agreed, "Yeah, I'd rather get all the clothes off, and keep all the clothes off."

Here at the Youth Leadership Camp run by the American Association for Nude Recreation, the dress code for regular volleyball — and for the pudding toss, mini-golf and campfire sing-alongs — is the same as it is for skinny dipping.

Basking in what nudist organizations say is a growing interest in nude recreation, the association has begun a nationwide expansion of summer camps for nudists age 11 to 18. The first began here 10 years ago, in a county north of Tampa known for its concentration of nudist resorts. In 2000, the association opened its second camp in Arizona.

A third is to open outside Richmond, Va., this month, and organizers in Texas are planning a fourth camp there for the summer of 2005.

Naked summer camp might strike non-nudists as illegal or prurient, or like striking a match to the gasoline of adolescent hormones.

Anti-nudity statutes in Florida and other states, however, say that nudity on private property is perfectly legal, even among minors, as long as there is no lewdness. And camp rules, drawn up by campers themselves a few years ago, guard against that. "Do not allow nudity and lust to mingle," they state. "No improper touch. Nudity must not be humiliating, degrading or promote ridicule." Even the occasional clothing, worn in the camp's shuttle van, must not be "sexually alluring."

Nude tourism has grown to a $400 million business this year from a $120 million business in 1992, reports the nudist association, with travel agencies noting a surge in nude cruises and, in May, the first nude charter flight. The association itself is growing, with 30 new clubs, for a total of 267, in the last two years.

There are still few places, however, for teenagers.

"I've spent my life around nudist resorts; this is the first time I've ever been around kids my own age," said Halie, who had been named Camper of the Day the previous night for participating fully despite a foot swollen by a bee sting. "It's either 45 and over or 10 and under."

The campers, many of them alumni of church or scout camps, say they like this better, but not for the reasons most people might expect.

"I learned to play tennis this morning," Amanda Williamson, 18, said. "I never did that at church camp. I'm getting better at volleyball, too."

Aside from the obvious, naked camp looks a lot like other camps: campers play Capture the Flag, catch frogs and leap up when the whistle blows signaling seconds for ice cream. They make s'mores and sing modified campfire songs ("This Land Is Your Land" ends, "This land was made nude and free.") Each camp team writes a song for the annual talent show, with hosts "Sunny and Bare."

Parents and campers say the camp promotes a healthy body image at an age when confidence can crumble, and better relations between the sexes when awkwardness normally prevails.

"In gym class, some of the girls will hide in their lockers to take off their shirts in front of other girls," Halie said. "Sometimes I'll say, `Why are you so insecure?' They all say, `I need to lose a few pounds.' I just don't care about that stuff. I accept my body the way it is."

The nudist association, the larger of two nationwide, sees this as a place to train "youth ambassadors" to what nudists call the "textile" world. (To the question posed by one after-dinner discussion, "I'm a Nudist; Am I a Nut?," the answer, not surprisingly, was no.)

There are things that set this camp apart. Mosquito bites are more irritating, the sunscreen police more vigilant. Campers pack lighter, but drag towels, Linus-like, because nudist etiquette dictates using one when sitting. And the discussion groups feature topics like "Is God Mad at Me Because I'm a Nudist?" (Again, no.)

And everyone is on guard against COG's — "creepy outside guys" — who try to sneak in past the tall fences and security gates, to peek. On Tuesday, when a suspicious-looking man arrived at the pool, counselors quickly herded campers away and guards escorted the unwelcome visitor from the premises.

"It makes me a bit freaked out that people would think of nudity as a sexual thing," said Michelle Jones, 15, a camper from Texas.

Pat Brown, president of the American Association for Nude Recreation, said the camps run extensive background and criminal checks on counselors, often college students who have been nude campers themselves.

Bernie McCabe, the state attorney for Pasco County, where the Lutz camp is, said he had never heard any complaints about it.

Parents seem to have no worries about pedophilia, speaking of nudist camps and resorts as safe, family-like environments.

"Everybody keeps an eye on the children," George Jeffries, Jane's father, said. "There are no transgressions by regular folks coming here, and newcomers are watched very closely."

Still, even parents who have sent their children here for several years do not necessarily tell their church friends or relatives about it.

"If I'm confronted I will not lie, but it's not something I want to have to explain," the father of two boys, an engineer for a telecommunications company, said. "I worry about my kids being ostracized. I believe in this, but a lot of people don't."

The father, like others, said the camp discourages some of the less attractive behavior of adolescents: "I don't have to worry about them sneaking around and seeing things their friends are, the girlie magazines and the porn movies."

Campers agree.

"It takes the mystery out of what the other person looks like, so sex becomes more something you know you're waiting to experience, rather than just a physical thing where you want to find out," said an 18-year-old who gave her name as Jeanene.

"At school, if you see a person, you just see their clothes," Jane said. "Here you have to actually get to know the people."

But some things about teenagers, nudist or not, remain true. Boys at 13 still find scatological humor far funnier than anyone else does. Eleven-year-old girls still fight about who gets to dance as J. Lo in the talent show. Even nudist campers coo at the "cute" swimsuits as they pull on clothing to get back in the van.

Pulling out of one resort during a field trip, a few campers ask the van driver to stop so they can check out the souvenirs. Inside, they finger sarongs and embroidered T-shirts. But they don't buy.

Too expensive.



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; Miscellaneous; US: Florida; US: Texas; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: holdmuhclothes; indoctrination; nudistcamp; publicnudity; summercamp
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To: TontoKowalski
Hey TK. xsmommy tipped me off.
61 posted on 06/18/2003 8:08:49 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: TontoKowalski
figgers you'd be here ; )

while i am fine with the bikini, i think this is a bit...much : )

62 posted on 06/18/2003 8:08:56 AM PDT by xsmommy
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To: dead; Constitution Day
I'm going to keep this in mind when people point out that NYC is a moral cesspool.

My guess is that the one "near Richmond" is at the nudist camp about an hour from here.

I always get a kick out of seeing their ads in the newspaper. Why? It's their name.

"White Tail Park."

63 posted on 06/18/2003 8:09:33 AM PDT by Corin Stormhands (http://wardsmythe.crimsonblog.com)
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To: Charles Martel
Broken minds work the same
64 posted on 06/18/2003 8:09:40 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Read Buddy's, (the labrador retriever), new book about the Clintons, "Living Hell")
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To: ewing
"Has the New York Times lost its freaking mind?"

Did they ever have a mind? Maybe they should check with the average man on the street.... I don't know... maybe...Greg Packer...and see what he thinks.

65 posted on 06/18/2003 8:09:57 AM PDT by DannyTN (Note left on my door by a pack of neighborhood dogs.)
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To: Constitution Day
"It makes me a bit freaked out that people would think of nudity as a sexual thing," said Michelle Jones, 15, a camper from Texas.

I see trouble in this young woman's future if she doesn't wise up.

66 posted on 06/18/2003 8:18:22 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Constitution Day
Isn't it almost a rule that people who are nudists tend to be people you'd rather not see naked?
67 posted on 06/18/2003 8:21:28 AM PDT by tdadams
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To: Van Jenerette
...for Sociology Class.
68 posted on 06/18/2003 8:26:18 AM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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To: Constitution Day
Facts and Statistics About Skin Cancer

The number of skin cancer cases has increased in the United States. More than 1 million cases of basal cell or squamous cell cancer will be diagnosed in 2002. The most serious form of skin cancer, malignant melanoma, is expected to be diagnosed in 53,600 persons in 2002.1 Since 1981, the incidence of melanoma has increased an average of 7 percent per year to a rate of 14.3 per 100,000 in 1997. Melanoma is the most common cancer among people 25 to 29 years old.

The three major types of skin cancer are basal cell carcinoma, squamous cell carcinoma, and melanoma.

Basal cell and squamous cell carcinomas can cause substantial illness and, if untreated, can cause considerable damage and disfigurement. If detected and treated early, however, these carcinomas have a cure rate of more than 95%

Malignant melanoma causes more than 75% of all deaths from skin cancer. This disease can spread to other organs, most commonly the lungs and liver. Malignant melanoma diagnosed at an early stage usually can be cured, but melanoma diagnosed at a late stage is more likely to spread and cause death.

Exposure to the sun's ultraviolet (UV) rays appears to be the most important environmental factor in developing skin cancer. This makes skin cancer a largely preventable disease when sun protective practices and behaviors are consistently applied and utilized. UV radiation is also a factor in the development of lip cancer, making sun protection even more important. UV rays from artificial sources of light, such as tanning beds and sun lamps are just as dangerous as those from the sun, and should also be avoided. Unfortunately, despite the fact that both tanning and burning can increase one's risk of skin cancer, most Americans do not protect themselves from UV rays.

Who Is at Risk?
Although anyone can get skin cancer, individuals with certain risk factors are particularly at risk. Some risk factors for skin cancer are ---


69 posted on 06/18/2003 8:29:50 AM PDT by occam's chainsaw
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To: PBRSTREETGANG
I see trouble in this young woman's future if she doesn't wise up.

Big trouble.

70 posted on 06/18/2003 8:36:31 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: tdadams
Isn't it almost a rule that people who are nudists tend to be people you'd rather not see naked?

Sort of like the rule that says militant feminists who are obsessed with claiming victimization as "sex objects" are butt ugly?

71 posted on 06/18/2003 8:37:27 AM PDT by TontoKowalski
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To: Lefty-NiceGuy
Try proof reading...
72 posted on 06/18/2003 9:10:29 AM PDT by bruin66 (Free Martha!)
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To: Constitution Day
did I send you a "private post". If so, I meant it to be posted to the thread. Otherwise, I inadvertently deleted it before it was posted.
73 posted on 06/18/2003 9:16:08 AM PDT by awgie2
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To: kegler4
"Teenagers in some European countries do the nude beach thing all the time. I'm not saying there's never any woodies but when you grow up with it you don't think that much of it. "

I think you are right.. once you see stuff like that so much you'd likely get use to it and not even think of it in a sexual way. And if you grew up around that being the norm then the nudity and sex stuff wouldn't automatically be connected in your mind. You probably see whichever family members you live with naked all the time but you don't relate it to sex (except with your hubby/wife.) You just get use to it and it's no big deal. As long as this place is keeping the kids safely away from the pervs who would just want to watch them running around nude and keeping them from messing around with each other (which non-nude camps don't seem to be very good at), then I don't think it's a big deal.
74 posted on 06/18/2003 9:18:19 AM PDT by honeygrl ("Sometimes I think war is God's way of teaching us geography." - Paul Rodriguez)
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To: awgie2
No, I didn't get any private replies.
75 posted on 06/18/2003 9:20:08 AM PDT by Constitution Day
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To: occam's chainsaw
In the article it said they were more religious about the sunblock and sunscreen than most other camps so they probably protect against the skin cancer.
76 posted on 06/18/2003 9:29:34 AM PDT by honeygrl ("Sometimes I think war is God's way of teaching us geography." - Paul Rodriguez)
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To: honeygrl
I posted on another thread awhile back about my experience as a newspaper reporter at one of these Rainbow Family gatherings where many people go nude. This is the only time I've been around a large group of nekkid people, except in the gym shower (and those were all guys). For the first hour or so I nearly gave myself whiplash. After that, it was "Oh, there's another pair of breasts. Big deal."

I stayed there for 2 1/2 days and eventually joined in the nudity when I needed a bath at the creek. Once again, no big deal and not sexy at all, even though there were women I would have considered quite sexy under other circumstances.
77 posted on 06/18/2003 10:00:14 AM PDT by kegler4
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To: Constitution Day
At Nude Youth Camp, Skin Is Bare but Lust Is Verboten

ROTFLMAO

Oh, New York Times. That explains it.

Shalom.

78 posted on 06/18/2003 10:03:34 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: Capriole
This may be one of the most stupid ideas in the history of left-liberal thinking.

No, electing Bill Clinton president was.

This is a close second.

If Hillary gets the nomination, all bets are off.

Shalom.

79 posted on 06/18/2003 10:04:44 AM PDT by ArGee (I did not come through fire and death to bandy crooked words with a serving-man... - Gandalf)
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To: TontoKowalski
Men are visually stimulated, so obviously a teen nude camp puts an adolescent boy's sexual feelers on overload. The idea that this is somehow better than than watching porn is ludicrous. This is a virtual live peep show for a teen boy.
80 posted on 06/18/2003 10:24:44 AM PDT by Abe Froman
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