THE SECRET KGB FO FILES [HOSTED BY ROGER MOORE] LIVE DISCUSSION THREAD CURRENT SCIFI CH PROG

SCI FI CABLE TV CHANNEL | 17 JUN 2003 | ROGER MOORE HOST

[Quix]

This is to invite dicussion of the program on currently just starting at the hour with the above title.

Tinfoil hat screamers can scream into their own hats, if they please.

If you are interested in the topic and fair minded, please offer your responses to the program and subject.

[Quix]

Ah well, happy to oblige.

[Quix]

Hmmmmm 5 miles in 1-1.5 sec = 9,000-14,000 mph.

Fascinating.

Sounds like, looks like a convincing witness, to me.

[Quix]

Soviet science . . . I don't know about it being second to none.

I also don't know the mentality of the vodka influenced military units involved; nor how much professionalism was characteristic of THOSE units; nor how much vodka had been involved at that time; nor how rattled they were by the subject . . . I don't know a host of things that might have influenced their professionalism.

The whole operation looked and sounded to me like our 1947 Roswell operation sounded.

They were a bit rattled, unsure exactly what to do with whatever it was they had etc. etc. etc.

Condemn me to idiocy all you wish. You haven't had the long list of primary and secondary sources I've had among my close relatives and close friends. Your lack of experiences allows a certain measure of cheeky arrogance.

You will be humbled in due course.

It might be interesting to see your face and attitude then.

[Quix]

Undoubtedly, God will WORK ALL THINGS TO HIS WILL AND ENDS.

But in the mid-term, I expect the Global Government Tyranny puppet masters to play both sides of the UFO issues to their own devious ends. They seem to have it set up so that if they need to play the UFO's as evil--they win. And if they need to play the UFO ET critters as saviors--they win.

They fail to believe that God wins on all sides in all cases and that HE keeps HIS cards remarkably close to His chest.

[Quix]

It's the first time I've seen Ike's man Corso go on record in color video etc. Very convincing.

Audio tape by Apollo 14 Astronaut Edgar Mitchel from contacts he had supporting Roswell realities.

[razorback-bert]

That it had been crashed long enought for the bitch trees to grow up around it.

[Quix]

I wondered about that--but it seemed to perhaps have come in from the right. There was a gap sufficient for it--it seemed to me.

On the other hand--it is conceivable that it had been there that long for a variety of reasons.

Neither one of us were there.

[plusone]

I've got the video at home. Pretty good stuff. My father in law was a Russian army commander. I asked my wife about the soldiers' uniforms, she says they look authentic. That much I can verify...

[razorback-bert]

The ground was smooth around the small craft too.

[Quix]

Will look more closely on the reruns.

Was convinced 35 years ago that the powers that be would be, over the next X years be conditioning the population to accept such in graduated steps--regardless of how rapidly the graduated steps followed one another in sequence.

They have done precisely that. This evening's programs are but two more in that sequence.

Yet again there were details, perspectives, witnesses, qualities and ranks of witnesses and the videos and audios presented which were significantly above what had been presented before. This pattern has been followed for 35+ years.

There has been an increasing degree of evidence to support specifics my relatives and other close friends told me 35+ years ago and since. I haven't heard nor seen anything to convince me what I have been told is remotely close to even 51% false.

I don't know how much is disinformation and how much is absolute fact. But the essence of the phenomenon is true regardless of what underlies it all.

Who knows but God what all the smoke, mirrors, disinformation, multi-dimensional realities etc. will turn out to disclose. But life as we know it will never be the same again.

I am waiting until I can see the whole thing in rerun. But my tentative impression is that this evening's program upped the disclosure much more than usual. I'd guess that there was a raising of the ante by 25-35% instead of the perhaps usual 5-15%.

[Quix]

Thanks. Interesting detail.

[tlb]

It's a cookbook !

[witnesstothefall]

So you need to string together a BUNCH of subjective suppositions to rationalize the possible legitimacy of the Soviet film(s)?! And you're persuaded further because of the film's Roswell-like (i.e. crappy) quality?

So a few Russian grifters put on some lab coats and make a grainy film to sell to American tv producers, who in turn hire washed up Roger Moore to read the script it took 15 minutes to make up, and you're ready to sign up. Sorry but it cracks me up.

And spare me the hearsay "primary and secondary" crap. If you or anyone had ANY evidence, you'd show it.

All this is not to say I'm dismissive of the SETI. But I'm extremely dismissive of kooks, who give serious scientific inquiries a bad name.

I don't mean to offend - my own beloved mother is the biggest sap of all. A theory only needs to spoken for her to believe it. Sound familiar??

[Quix]

I see YOU are enjoying

YOUR suppositions, assumptions and emotional hooks. You should continue to enjoy them as much as you can. You shant have them too many more years hence.

Interesting.

I'll trust my sources over your suppositions and assumptions any day.

The Disclosure project has 400+ quality sources including many high ranking sources in and out of the military. There's plenty of video and other records available. Some are being withheld until Congressional immunity is granted.

Again--you have not experienced anything close, evidently, to the quality and number of sources I have.

[witnesstothefall]

Yes I expected as much from your reply. Fair-minded means agreeing with you, huh?

The real mystery is why did I bother engaging in the first place? Cheap thrills I guess. Happy ET hunting to you. I hope you find them before they find you. ;)

[GodBlessRonaldReagan]

Roger Moore? Was Jonathan Frakes busy?

[UCANSEE2]

One thing I noticed. The more close-minded and uninformed a person is, the more willing they are to tell everyone else they are wrong.

[Quix]

Goodness no. I extend many ocean tankers full of grace, the benefit of the doubt, freedom to have other opinions etc. to one and all.

However, it's disappointing when people pontificate on this subject without seeming to have given the other side a reasonable chance and/or without having examined a fair amount of the better evidence available.

Given my sources and my proximity to them as well as my own Navy job . . .

Your rationalizations, assumptions etc. just come off as ill-informed, uninformed or incredibly narrow, rigid, biased and/or grossly ignorant.

I have a lot of respect for Poohbah. He is of a similar bent as you. And while I suspect he hasn't examined a sufficient amount of the better data closely enough--he at least makes a reasonable stab at checking our sources and thinking through things to a degree beyond average for those of his position.

I don't know what he'd do with the audio tape of Astronaut Mitchell played last night. I'd think it would be a bit hard to argue with.

But I've learned that on this subject, minds tend to be set in concrete akin to granite hard almost before the concrete truck has left the site. Amazing.

[Quix]

I have no idea who Jonathan F is.

Perhaps you could enlighten me.

[Quix]

That does seem to be a chronic human tendency on all sides of all issues . . . the more uninformed, the more rigid, 'agin it,' closed minded, narrow and stubborn some people are about the issues.

I freely admit I don't have a huge clue about what all the data means nor how much is fact, disinformation, fantasy, deception etc. However, I remain convinced at least the shadow government in the USA have at their disposal craft akin or equal to ET craft which do amazing things. I am convinced that there are ET's whether they are in cahoots with; parallel to; cloned physical shells for demons and/or some other combination of things is rather hard to determine at this point, IMHO. I am convinced that most of the ET races most visibly dinking around with our planet are not to be trusted and are likely bent on aiding the AntiChrist Global Government Tyranny folks.

I'm mostly convinced that there are other dimensional; extra dimensional; parallel universe shorts of things also going on which are even harder to guess about.

And, I believe that the wildest of all of the above will turn out to be fairly conservative compared to the basic, minimal freaky absolute reality stuff which all of us will have to confront before our lifetimes in this era are over.

OK, flame away.