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Saliva Swab May Determine If Drivers Are Drug Impaired
salt lake city tribune ^ | 6.7.03 | Tasha Williams

Posted on 06/17/2003 12:22:19 PM PDT by freepatriot32

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1 posted on 06/17/2003 12:22:20 PM PDT by freepatriot32
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To: freepatriot32
All your fluids are belong to us.
2 posted on 06/17/2003 12:25:00 PM PDT by Lexington Green
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What they're not telling you is that this is an ideal method of collecting DNA samples for your dossier.
3 posted on 06/17/2003 12:34:02 PM PDT by agitator (Ok, mic check...line one...)
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To: Lexington Green
Hey! You are licensed by the government to drive on public roads, and you are bound by their terms if you wish to retain that permission. Now, if you would please move your seat a bit forward to make room for the brainwave monitor, tape recorder, eye movement sensor, speed measurement device, and inside driver-safety cam and outside traffic safety cam, they would be much obliged. And please do not forget to have your anal probe installed, and remember to hook it up to its machine each time you start your car. Remember, cops won't pull you over for a disconnected anal probe sensor, but if they pull you over for something else, they can cite you for an unbuckled sensor.

Thank you and drive safely.

4 posted on 06/17/2003 12:35:29 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: Lexington Green
I'll take a saliva test over a urine test anyday. The saliva test can only detect marijuana use up to 6 hours, 24 for other drugs. Beats them looking into my past up to 30 days. Assuming they'll only use this in situtations where they could have forced you to pee in a cup anyway, its a net win. Of course, once they figure this out, they'll stop using it and go back to the pee standard.
5 posted on 06/17/2003 12:36:32 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Lexington Green
For sure, all your fluids are belong to us!

Some commons foods and medications show up as illegal drugs in drug tests. GOOD LUCK!

Don't eat poppy seeds, don't take cold pills, they will nail your assss.
6 posted on 06/17/2003 12:39:07 PM PDT by buffyt (Don't Bother Me, I Am Living Happily Ever After!)
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To: Wolfie
I'll take a saliva test over a urine test anyday.

The lack of a test for impairment has been one of the claims used against legalization for years. One more reason to continue the war on pot falls by the wayside. Six hours seems a little long if it's testing for impairment, might need some fine tuning to comply with alcohol standards.
7 posted on 06/17/2003 12:52:40 PM PDT by steve50 (I don't know about being with "us", but I'm with the Constitution)
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To: *Wod_list; jmc813
Wod_list ping
8 posted on 06/17/2003 1:00:23 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: agitator
What they're not telling you is that this is an ideal method of collecting DNA samples for your dossier.

Dammit ag!!! Don't give them any ideas.

What am I saying?

9 posted on 06/17/2003 1:02:13 PM PDT by Focault's Pendulum
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To: Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; AUgrad; Xenalyte; Bill D. Berger; ..
WOD Ping
10 posted on 06/17/2003 1:08:14 PM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: Wolfie
I'll take a saliva test over a urine test anyday. The lack of a test for impairment has been one of the claims used against legalization for years. One more reason to continue the war on pot falls by the wayside. Six hours seems a little long if it's testing for impairment, might need some fine tuning to comply with alcohol standards.

I guess by this reasoning, the pee test is the "gold standard" of impairment tests?

11 posted on 06/17/2003 1:32:10 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine (South-south-west, south, south-east, east....)
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To: freepatriot32
detects drugs in a driver's system using a saliva swab

Why is this and other detection system not a violation of a citzens fifth amendment right to not be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself?

12 posted on 06/17/2003 1:38:15 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: Pearls Before Swine
LOL!
13 posted on 06/17/2003 1:59:19 PM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: coloradan
Don't forget the Anal probe which is activated upon sitting in the driver's seat. It will also read your temperature.
14 posted on 06/17/2003 2:14:14 PM PDT by justshutupandtakeit (RATS will use any means to denigrate George Bush's Victory.)
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To: MosesKnows
Why is this and other detection system not a violation of a citzens fifth amendment right to not be compelled in any criminal case to be a witness against himself?

Because the drug war is immune from the Constitution.

15 posted on 06/17/2003 2:16:13 PM PDT by JTN
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To: justshutupandtakeit
Put there by the IRS no doubt.
16 posted on 06/17/2003 2:20:04 PM PDT by weegee (NO BLOOD FOR RATINGS: CNN let human beings be tortured and killed to keep their Baghdad bureau open)
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To: MosesKnows
You sign away your right to medical privacy when applying for a driver's license, even when it comes to alcohol use: "implied consent" to be subject to a breathalyzer. You don't want to? Fine, don't get a driver's license. (At least, that's the government's take on the situation. And, it's why my premonitions in post #4 don't have any argument against them, unless something big changes in the way the government views its licensing powers.)
17 posted on 06/17/2003 2:38:30 PM PDT by coloradan
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To: JTN
Because the drug war is immune from the Constitution.

That was a curious assertion. Would you share with me what caused you to make such an assertion? Just give me a hint if that is all you have time for. I don't mind looking it up if you would just point me in the correct direction.

18 posted on 06/17/2003 3:28:33 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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Yes, I know that. Knowing that is what prompted my question. Why are some of what you listed not a violation of the 5th amendment right that you not be required to bear witness against yourself?
19 posted on 06/17/2003 3:35:01 PM PDT by MosesKnows
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To: MosesKnows
I was only describing the way the drug war is handled by the government. They don't let little things like the Bill of Rights stand in their way.
20 posted on 06/17/2003 3:35:17 PM PDT by JTN
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