Catholic bishop of Phoenix arrested

FOXNEWS | 6/16/2003 | John Gibson

[sinkspur]

Roman Catholic bishop John O'Brien was arrested for leaving the scene of a fatal hit-and-run accident, and his car impounded.

[FITZ]

Maybe a few are guilty of some unfortunate Irish jokes,

My Irish grandfather told the best Irish jokes ---he knew every Pat and Mike joke ---jokes aren't hate no matter what political correctness says. I don't understand the defensiveness ----obviously this bishop doesn't represent the Church but the fact that he's still a bishop is a very bad reflection on the current hierarchy. The American Catholic Church has some serious problems and they need to fix them. The Church will survive this fool.

[Centurion2000]

They'd better not let this guy walk on bail. Flight risk as I'm sure the Vatican would protect him if he made it there.

[Catspaw]

Arizona does not go on daylight savings time. I can tell you that at 8:30PM in So Cal, the sun has set about 20 minutes prior and it is nearly dark. So, by that same time, I suspect it is completely dark in Phoenix.

That may well be so, but how could he not notice the damage to the car?

 

Rob Schumacher/The Arizona Republic Bishop O'Brien's car is towed from his north Phoenix home.

[Aloysius]

So, by that same time, I suspect it is completely dark in Phoenix.

OK. Thanks.

[Endeavor]

I agree wholeheartedly with each of your points. And so would my Irish grandmother.

[habs4ever]

That settles it.Nice pic..can't fudge this one now.

[tracer]

D. None of the above....

[sinkspur]

Sinkspur, I've appreciated your posts for some time, but lately you've taken an immoderate, even bitter tone.

Bitter tone? Because I've opposed bishops who've covered for pederasts, and even participated in moving them to new, fertile ground?

I have a bitter tone about this because I don't buy that a man of God is unaware that he hit a human being (there was windshield damage, for heaven's sake, and dogs don't cause windshield damage), and I'm curious as to why he had to be tracked down like a common criminal.

You're dreaming up excuses for the guy.

[CdMGuy]

I was just replying to someone who did not realize that Arizona does not go on DST. That person thought it was still light.

As for me, there is no question that the Bishop should have stopped, especially when I read in the article that his windshield was damaged, as you were so kind to post the picture for us.

Dark or light, when you hit a person or animal, unless it is a glancing blow, you know you hit or ran over something. It is apparent that the Bishop had something to hide. As a Catholic, it saddens me that a high church official would place his personal situation above an injured party. This man seems to have lost all sense of goodness.

[TBall]

Wow, I finally click on this thread and I'm surprised that the Bishop is not being charged with child molestation. Only hit and run what a relief

[autoresponder]

- "or Jimmy Swaggart, Jim Bakker, etc.

56 posted on 06/16/2003 6:01 PM EDT by Diddle E. Squat

- That's two Protestants involved in maritial infidelities, more can be found, but not countless hundreds of homosexual predators of young male teenagers that have been and are countueing to be covered up by their superiors, the church, politicians, and the judicial system.

- If you can find a list of hundreds of that criminally attacked minors boys thru NEXUS, feel free to post it here on FR.

- The Catholic church has an abiding cancer within and continues to cover up for priests and shuffle them around and even out of the country.

- "Suicide is painless,
- it brings on many changes..."

- Defending the indefenseable only indicts yourself; just as Islam has become a mockery and an instrument of insane savage subhumans operating on a level below that of early primates by cloning themselves into copies of their crazed founder, it is possible for any religion to throw itself into the sewers of denial and immorality.

- Face reality; demand change and clean out your septic tank or continue to lose membership and new moral prospects to lead your religion.

- Denial is a hideous joke...

[Catspaw]

I didn't know what the cops had when they arrested the Bishop, but the damage to the windshield is substantial and unmistakeable.

And this update. The Bishop was taken to the hospital for treatment for high blood pressure.

Shortly after 1:30 p.m., the bishop left in an unmarked police car. Authorities said he was under arrest and faces one count of leaving the scene of a fatal accident, a Class 4 felony. Before authorities could book him, O'Brien experienced high blood pressure and had to be transported from Madison Street Jail to St. Joseph's Hospital and Medical Center. http://www.azcentral.com/news/articles/0616obrien-fatality-ON.html

[B-Chan]

By what method do you tell fiction from non-fiction, "Honey"?

[FITZ]

lately you've taken an immoderate, even bitter tone.

Isn't that sort of the same immoderate tone many of us Americans took with Clinton? Just because he was an American president, what he did as president was out and out immoral and wrong. There was no defending him --- if a foreigner would say "your president is a very immoral man, he lies, commits perjury, rapes and should be removed from office", wouldn't we all have agreed? I know the bishop isn't as bad as Clinton but there is no way he can be defended. He's an insult to the religion.

[B-Chan]

Your grade:
F

The correct answer is C.

As in “See me after class”.

[Servant of the Nine]

That is Maricopa County, Sheriff Joe Arpaio.
The one with the tent city County Jail.

Mighty hot there in the summer.
Green Balony.
Pink Underwear.

Perhaps he will receive a call to minister to sweaty men in pink underwear.

This indictment is just a place holder till they sort out a Vehicular Homicide charge.

So9

[JoeFromCA]

This guy should be a poster boy for the failings of the roman catholic church. I was in Arizona last week and the local news was non-stop about this turkey and the DA's success in nailing him for harboring abusive priests. This bishop or whatever he calls himself had the gall to go on TV and specifically repudiate the agreement he had signed admitting his guilt!! He said he had gone to Washington and met with the pope' s US rep and the pope (speaking thru this rep) had told him to tell the DA he answered to the pope, not the DA.

It's no surprise to me, having seen the lying .... on TV, that he would continue his criminal career. Hopefully he'll be put away for the rest of his life.

[Endeavor]

Clearly, with more precision than you're used to.

[sinkspur]

This indictment is just a place holder till they sort out a Vehicular Homicide charge.

If O'Brien knew Reed, then I'd agree.

But it'll be tough to get anything more than manslaughter out of this.

[Servant of the Nine]

That may well be so, but how could he not notice the damage to the car?

The Shape of the impact in the glass and the bloody splotch on the roof above look like the guy was flipped head first into the windshield and then over the car.

So9