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1 posted on 06/15/2003 4:49:00 PM PDT by Marine Inspector
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To: JackelopeBreeder
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2 posted on 06/15/2003 4:50:33 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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To: Marine Inspector
I thank you for posting this.
3 posted on 06/15/2003 4:56:11 PM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the sunset...)
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To: Marine Inspector
Bump.
4 posted on 06/15/2003 4:57:26 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Marine Inspector
This is a very good article.
5 posted on 06/15/2003 5:00:57 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: Marine Inspector
Oh wow. Excellent post and the author absolutely nails it. This is an all-time great post on the illegal alien situation developing...which WILL lead to eventual revolution and then totalitarianism. Brilliantly put.

Mene Mene Tekel Upharsin

13 posted on 06/15/2003 5:52:57 PM PDT by MeneMeneTekelUpharsin (De tal palo, tal astilla.)
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To: Marine Inspector
For the second time today I say "california is really a sink hole, I feel sorry for those who live there"
15 posted on 06/15/2003 5:59:11 PM PDT by jocon307 (sorry if i'm spoiling the joke)
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To: Marine Inspector
Beware all you who would enter. Here are the rules: you are welcome to work hard between 20 and 40. But then please retire at 50 and return home. Stay young, healthy, single, sterile, and lawful - and we want you; get old or injured, marry, procreate, or break the law - and we don't

Does the author think it's much different for a white American in corporate America?

19 posted on 06/15/2003 6:08:42 PM PDT by SauronOfMordor (Java/C++/Unix/Web Developer looking for next gig)
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To: Marine Inspector
Like everything Hanson writes, brilliantly written, insightful, sympathetic. What a great guy.
24 posted on 06/15/2003 6:18:09 PM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: Marine Inspector
Thanks for the post. I too think this was generally a very good article. However, I think Hansen underplays several facts. First of all, I think a good number of the illegals do eventually manage to make it into the middle class, or even the upper middle class, or their kids eventually do. Secondly, they often become quite wealthy in Mexico. Not all of the money remitted to Mexico is spent on superfluidities like snakeskin boots. Much of it goes to buy nice houses, land and to start profitable businesses which thrive off of fellow Mexicans who are stuck in Mexico. Mexico in general is much more of a "land economy" rather than a "wage economy" as compared to the U.S. So when you have got your land you have "made it", so to speak.

Between his tendancy to minimize acquired U.S. wealth and acquired Mexican wealth, I think Hansen paints in general too bleak of a picture for the immigrant, although many do suffer tragically or even perish arriving to the U.S.

However the biggest mystery to me is why everyone turns a blind eye to problems with the Mexican government and civil society. The whole discussion about illegal immigration is all about problems in the U.S. or with the immigrants. There is such a dearth of discussion in all of this which seriously criticizes the enormous problems with Mexican civil society or their government. No one talks about that. Go figure.
29 posted on 06/15/2003 6:30:36 PM PDT by dano1
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To: Marine Inspector
BUMP
34 posted on 06/15/2003 6:50:55 PM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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36 posted on 06/15/2003 6:56:34 PM PDT by Marine Inspector (DHS BCBP II)
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42 posted on 06/15/2003 7:09:37 PM PDT by Cacique
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To: Marine Inspector
Bump!

Good read Marine Inspector.
46 posted on 06/15/2003 9:46:21 PM PDT by SAMWolf (If you can't make it good, make it big.)
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To: Marine Inspector
bump...thanks for the post.
69 posted on 06/16/2003 1:06:24 PM PDT by Lady Eileen
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