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Lucianne Goldberg: Hillary's Book Sales 'Way Below 200,000'
NewsMax.com ^ | 6/14/03 | Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff

Posted on 06/14/2003 7:53:17 PM PDT by kattracks

According to renowned New York City literary agent Lucianne Goldberg, those fabulous book sale figures racked up by Hillary Clinton's "Living History" may turn out to be mere publishing industry hype.

Reacting to Tuesday's reports Mrs. Clinton sold 200,000 copies a day after her book's release, Goldberg told syndicated radio hosts John Batchelor and Paul Alexander, "I'm told you can't get those figures in one day."

Citing another publishing source, she added, "They do have a system for [tallying up early book sales] but they doubt that they were able to access it that swiftly."

While Goldberg said her sources didn't have an accurate sales figure for Hillary's book, she put the number at "way below 200,000."

What about Simon & Schuster's million copy initial press run? Goldberg said the figure is just public relations hype and that the first run printing was probably no more than 350,000 copies.

The longtime publishing maven explained there would be no need for Simon & Schuster to print a million books. If they needed more, "you push the button on the press and you can crank out another 50,000 in a 24-hour cycle and ship them out."

In fact, sources in the field are reporting disappointing sales for Mrs. Clinton's book, Goldberg contended. "I can tell you a store that gets a call from the New York Times best seller list, and they're looking over there at 50 copies that haven't been bought."

She agreed with the characterization of Mrs. Clinton's book as "a loss leader" and predicted, "If this book doesn't take off over the weekend [Simon & Schuster] is going to be eating a lot of these copies."

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KEYWORDS: booksales; livinghistory
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To: BlueNgold
The whole deal is a sham IMHO. S&S made a huge contribution to help finance the Clinton move to NY, which in effect was a campaign contribution....

I agree that the whole deal is a sham but I still don't understand what S&S's motivation is. What do they gain from giving campaign contribution? Are they so delusional that they actually think Hillary will become president some day? The influence of a junior minority-party senator does not seem like it's worth that much money.

Heck, even "Sheets" Byrd can't be charmed by Hillary, as Rush described on his program on last week.

41 posted on 06/14/2003 9:31:05 PM PDT by eeman
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To: eeman
Well that seems a little drastic in the printer's case:}

You know, I do wonder where these are being printed. Presumably somewhere in the US although Cuba would be more appropriate.

42 posted on 06/14/2003 9:32:25 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: 2 Kool 2 Be 4-Gotten
Just out of curiosity, if you saw a "pile" of her books, how did you figure they were 1/4 depleted? Did you see how big the pile was when it started out, and then later estimate that it was 1/4 gone? Did you see a before and after? Or did you just see a 'pile' and measure the size of that pile against the pile of other books on display and assume that all piles started out equal size? how would you know if one book had been sold, or 20? Just wondering how you arrived at that conclusion of 1/4 depeleted?
43 posted on 06/14/2003 9:33:37 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: Political Junkie Too
Somebody was sitting in for Rush the other day (only caught a brief excerpt as i had a quickie errand), and he said that a caller had reported that Ralph's Grocery Store had Hillary's book in the 40% off bin already.
44 posted on 06/14/2003 9:37:15 PM PDT by MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
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To: MightyMouseToSaveThe Day
When will we see them at half.com?
45 posted on 06/14/2003 9:48:34 PM PDT by eeman
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isn't it this way with every book?? (yes)
46 posted on 06/14/2003 9:49:43 PM PDT by KneelBeforeZod (I was happy in the haze of a drunken hour but heaven knows I'm miserable now)
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To: kattracks
Creative bookeeping for "Creative History," how surprising! The lies don't end on page 561??

Pray for GW and The Truth

47 posted on 06/14/2003 9:50:57 PM PDT by bray ( Old Glory Stands for Freedom)
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To: Liz; Mia T
Lemme see now, 200,000 times the price of the book --- hmm, comes out WAY less than the 8 million hilly received. Is the dNC going to be making up the difference?
48 posted on 06/14/2003 9:51:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: All
I don't know why anyone would buy her book...we know what happened and that she is still with Bill and what, she has "aspirations". OK.......we know that and don't need to pay full price for all that has been told. But I wold buy a first edition, first printing, signed for 2.99.....at my fav discount store. But not a PENNY more for Hill's Story Already Told !!!
49 posted on 06/14/2003 9:56:49 PM PDT by MissL
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To: kellynla
"I just checked the NY Slimes best seller list and Hitlery's book did not make the top 35"

Good thing Mullah Sheikh Abdullah-ziz Howell Raines is not running the Times, otherwise the Times would be inflating the numbers of "Hysterical Mythologies" just like Sheister and Schubert are...
50 posted on 06/14/2003 10:13:58 PM PDT by Pubbie (Bill Owens for Prez and Jeb as VP in '08.)
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To: Mo1
Have you seen this?
51 posted on 06/14/2003 10:18:58 PM PDT by Brad’s Gramma (Pray for America & Israel AND become a monthly donor to Free Republic. Or ELSE!)
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To: Brad's Gramma
I'm not suprised ..
52 posted on 06/14/2003 10:26:19 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: kattracks
According to renowned New York City literary agent Lucianne Goldberg

Sorry, kat, but the first ten words shot the credibility of anything that might follow. Trixie hasn't been a literary agent in YEARS. What I'd like to know, is what the sales figures are on the book Trixie promised she'd get published for Linda Tripp.

As much as I hate the Clintons ... that's how much I hate Trixie (and no, I don't know her personally). She used FR to steal a following, and what was much worse, destroyed Linda Tripp's life, without ever planning to help her, for political advantage. If I could tolerate Trixie, I could just as well be a socialist.

53 posted on 06/14/2003 10:27:45 PM PDT by mrustow (no tag)
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To: All
I live in a small town in Texas.(Pick-up trucks with gun racks) We went to the bookstore today and the Hillary books were everywhere. Guess they over ordered...or forgot who there customer is. I set my Americano on a copy as my husband and I checked out.
54 posted on 06/14/2003 10:31:48 PM PDT by DUDLEY
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To: Brad's Gramma; PJ-Comix
Hey Grammie ... Did you see PJ's Thread?

Weird Amazon Stats For Hillary's Book (Little Or NO Ratings In Individual States)

55 posted on 06/14/2003 10:37:07 PM PDT by Mo1 (I'm a monthly Donor .. You can be one too!)
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To: SkyPilot
These are more like it:


56 posted on 06/14/2003 10:39:08 PM PDT by Slyfox
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To: upchuck
The logistics of 3500 stores contacting S&S and reporting sales is hard to believe.

Maybe, maybe not. [Not to deny a motive to stretch the truth here.] When I was involved in sourcing reengineering for a F500 in the early '90s, we studied the Wal-Mart "Just-in-Time" process. In brief, every time a barcode was swiped that information was transmitted directly to a vendor. Materials management software, such as MIMS, have the capability to establish reorder points, reorder quantity, delivery timeframes, payment release, and so on. The Wal-Mart JiT model at that time required the vendor to make a timely delivery and actually stock the shelf at each unit. I would suspect any of the large book publishers, when profit is on the line via a reseller demanding continually increased levels of performance, have the capabilities to review inventory quantities in each market and respond appropriately. The huge resellers likely have the leverage to base their payments on actual sales rather than delivered inventory. It just depends on how close a relationship is established.

Mom and pop stores seldom have the wherewithal to participate at the highest technological level, but my local sole-proprietor bookstore has inventory management software that is connected to her vendors.

Consequently, I'd suggest that it is possible to gather and consolidate this data at any moment in time, especially if a publisher wants to get paid in a timely fashion. And, if you use your credit card at a vendor that has level 3 data capabilities - like Wal-Mart - Admiral Poindexter will add your purchase of Lying History to his TIA files.

57 posted on 06/14/2003 10:53:56 PM PDT by kitchen
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To: kellynla
I just checked the NY Slimes best seller list and Hitlery's book did not make the top 35...

From the NY Times online Bestseller List:

" Rankings reflect sales, for the week ending June 7..."

So her book would not be listed there yet.

58 posted on 06/14/2003 10:55:54 PM PDT by zeebee
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To: kattracks
I heard she only got 1.5 million not 2.85 I thinks it was on her tax return. Mike Mooron was on the NY top ten for a year and only sold 1 million copies.
59 posted on 06/14/2003 10:56:08 PM PDT by Brimack34
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To: kitchen
I spent ten years in the book business and even did some small publishing. Normal royalty is 8% for a beginner, 12% for a hot author. Give your heinousness 20% on a $20 average retail price (hard to hold up for long), that means she get a highly optimistic $4 per book. That would require 2 million books to be sold to equate to an $8 million advance. It will be a cold day in hell.

As far as selling 200,000 in one day, I suspect Harry Potter, or maybe a Stephen King, have more audience and would be hard pressed to come close to that figure. So 200000 for the first day is likely bunkum, or at dishonest best with presales tossed in.

60 posted on 06/14/2003 11:15:32 PM PDT by FastCoyote
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