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***Operation Infinite Freedom - Situation Room - 12 JUN 03/Day 85***
Everywhere TexKat goes, or Ragtime Cowgirl transcribes... | 12 JUN 03 | null and void

Posted on 06/11/2003 9:32:56 PM PDT by null and void

Operation Infinite Freedom


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Good Morning.

Welcome to the daily thread of Operation Infinite Freedom - Situation Room.

It is designed for general conversation about the ongoing war on terror, and the related events of the day. In addition to the ongoing conversations related to terrorism and our place in it's ultimate defeat, this thread is a clearinghouse of links to War On Terrorism threads. This allows us to stay abreast of the situation in general, while also providing a means of obtaining specific information and mutual support.


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: freedom; iraq; saddam
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To: DollyCali
You do not give us alot to go on DC. All these OIF has something regarding WMDs. Did you post on that particular thread? If so check on your comments. Other than that we would need more info than what you are providing at the present.
21 posted on 06/12/2003 12:21:15 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
sorry for being so vague. I have been ill over a week & have done minimal posting. lots of lurking / reading. but that is a good idea. I still don't know all the in & outs of the FR. I recall it was about a week ago.

Between the screaming headache & all the meds to help(which aren't working) I am not too sharp

I know the dose has a listing of all the days.. but the pings should get me there...

Thanks Tex...common sense, but I didn't figure it out tonight
22 posted on 06/12/2003 12:37:10 AM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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Parmar not queried about test detonation

Vancouver — RCMP interviewed the suspected mastermind of the Air-India disaster shortly before the bombings killed 331 people but the police did not ask him what he knew about an explosion in the woods a week earlier, a recently released internal RCMP report shows.

RCMP officers, accompanied by U.S. Secret Service agents, spoke to Talwinder Singh Parmar and another Air-India suspect on June 12, 1985, 11 days before the Air-India disaster.

However, the Mounties believed that the target of Sikh extremists at that time was Rajiv Gandhi, who was then the prime minister of India, and not Air-India aircraft.

23 posted on 06/12/2003 12:37:33 AM PDT by TexKat
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Aust embassy a target, Thai police say

Thai police say a group conspiring to bomb a string of Western targets in Bangkok wanted to carry out the attack this month, in the hope of killing as many tourists as possible. Among the targets was the Australian Embassy. Three Muslim men arrested for suspected involvement in the conspiracy faced court today, as investigators declared they had broken a cell of the feared regional terror group, Jemaah Islamiah.

24 posted on 06/12/2003 12:47:19 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: null and void; All
Morning all. Just briefly checking in. Hope everybody is doing great!
25 posted on 06/12/2003 12:50:38 AM PDT by Kip Lange (Damn, it feels good to be the Kipster)
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The Russians may be ready to help

CAMBRIDGE, Massachusetts Iran's nuclear energy program will be at the top of the agenda when the International Atomic Energy Agency's board of governors meets in Vienna next week. This time, Russia may be more inclined to cooperate with efforts to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.

. For more than a decade, Washington has unsuccessfully worked to sway Moscow from its cooperation with Iran in areas that can help Tehran develop weapons of mass destruction. Recent revelations by Iranian leaders and officials, however, are prompting the Russians to reassess their cooperation with Iran.

. President Mohammed Khatami of Iran recently disclosed that Iran has been mining uranium and pursuing technologies to reprocess the spent nuclear fuel from its reactor in Bushehr. "We need to com- plete the circle from discovering uranium to man- aging remaining spent fuel," he said.

. Iran has also declared that the spent fuel, which can be used to make nuclear weapons, may not be returned to Russia. Tehran further confirmed the existence of an uranium enrichment facility and plutonium production plant, making fuel supply from Russia eventually unnecessary. The announcements suggest that Tehran is coming close to being able to make nuclear weapons, with or without outside help. These disclosures contradict Iranian commitments to Russia, as well as commitments made by Moscow to Washington.

. A decision by Tehran actually to construct nuclear weapons, however, would be influenced by several strategic considerations. The prospect of losing Russia's support at the International Atomic Energy Agency and other international organizations, for example, could still have a major impact on Iran's next moves. There are also hundreds of Russian scientists and engineers in Iran whose withdrawal could seriously hamper the civil nuclear program - and who are in a position to know what equipment or technology Iran still lacks.

. Recent statements by President Vladimir Putin of Russia and the head of Russia's Ministry of Atomic Energy, Alexander Rumyantsev, indicate that Moscow is starting to view Iran's nuclear program with concern. "While Russia is helping Iran to build its nuclear power plant, it is not being informed by Iran of all the other projects that are currently under way," Rumyantsev said.

. Now Moscow is urging Tehran to sign the additional inspections protocol advocated by the IAEA, and it recently announced a decision to delay the signing of an agreement with Iran on spent nuclear fuel. Several articles in the Iranian press also suggest that Russia is beginning to give Iranian officials the cold shoulder on nuclear cooperation.

. All this indicates that Russia is re-examining its nuclear cooperation with Iran. It may be ready now, instead, to cooperate with Washington.

. Departing from previous lines of disagreement with the Putin announced following the summit meeting in St. Petersburg, that "The positions of Russia and the US on the issue are much closer than they seem." Putin has also taken a number of steps as president to take control of the various foreign policy and national security apparatuses that had a free reign in a number of fields during the Yeltsin era. Most important, Putin sacked Yevgeni Adamov in 2001 as head of the Russian Ministry of Atomic Energy and replaced him with own appointment. In his dealings with the United States, Putin bargains hard, but has generally shown that he know how to implement the agreements he makes.

. In order to succeed, the United States should work quietly with Putin and not give the impression that it is pressuring Moscow. Beyond demanding that Tehran sign the IAEA inspections protocol, Moscow must insist that Iran return the spent reactor fuel to Russia in accordance with its previous commitment. Russia should also join international efforts to demand that Iran halt its uranium enrichment and plutonium production programs, which are clearly beyond the requirements of a civil nuclear program, and condition further cooperation on this. Finally, Russia should encourage its scientists and engineers in Iran to provide information on their projects.

. Iran is at a critical juncture in its nuclear program, and the loss of Russian backing will influence its next steps as well as the actions of European states in international forums. We need Russia at this crucial stage.

. The writer is research director of the Caspian Studies Program at Harvard's John F. Kennedy School of Government.

26 posted on 06/12/2003 1:03:44 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: Kip Lange
Hi KL, hope you are fine. You have not checked in in a while.
27 posted on 06/12/2003 1:05:41 AM PDT by TexKat
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To: TexKat
Aye, that's because I drank my school, stayed in milk, and finally finagled myself some work. It's great, the only pitfall is the 70 mile commute both ways (I don't really mind the drive at all, it just hurts my lower back badly).
28 posted on 06/12/2003 1:20:48 AM PDT by Kip Lange (Damn, it feels good to be the Kipster)
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To: TexKat
(I'm also in a larger process of regrouping and remaking myself...so far, so good, one step at a time...)

Oh, and for kicks, go do a whois on conservativeartists.com. And then laugh at the people at liberalartists.com.

Anyone interested in helping me with c-a.com...I intend to get *something* up there fairly soon, for the moment just wanted it locked down.
29 posted on 06/12/2003 1:24:11 AM PDT by Kip Lange (Damn, it feels good to be the Kipster)
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To: TexKat; Kip Lange
found it Tex.. it was HatSteel & date was 6/4

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/922957/posts

Hey, Kip.. how goes it?

I am a "guest" at John's computer.. no IM, I guess..
30 posted on 06/12/2003 1:27:53 AM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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To: TexKat
I agree.I know it is a shock to them.They have not grown up hating and wanting to kill.I pray for them and am grateful to your son and all who serve.I was glad to hear of the arrests of the 400 or so Iraqis who threaten our troops.
31 posted on 06/12/2003 1:33:33 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: DollyCali
It goes very very well! Had a doctor's appointment today, fairly boring, wunderbar, things are starting to fall apart, heh, but it's cleared up. Feeling good. Weary, but good. :-)
32 posted on 06/12/2003 1:33:38 AM PDT by Kip Lange (Damn, it feels good to be the Kipster)
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To: Kip Lange
You are definitely a "night critter" .. I recall that from the first posts I noted between you & Umbagi during the war.

Good luck with all at job & the long commute. As one with life long chronic back pain, I understand. Almost all the things I enjoy doing, hurt (except biking, the stretching over the handle bars, seems to help)..

Think I will try to catch some Zzzzsss...
33 posted on 06/12/2003 1:42:33 AM PDT by DollyCali (Authenticity: To have Arrived !)
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To: MEG33
You look at that 18year old and realize someone did not love and value his life....therefore he is turned into a murderer of innocents.This a a terrible culture.

Agreed. I see an impressionable, idealistic, adolescent who was easy pickings for hardened Hamas leadership. Convenient that the higher-ups in Hamas have teenagers to do the dirty work, eh?

"Until Palestinians decide they love their children more than they hate the Israeli's, the violence will continue."--Golda Mier

Prairie

34 posted on 06/12/2003 4:33:41 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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To: prairiebreeze
I recall that statement.Very wise.
35 posted on 06/12/2003 4:35:30 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: MEG33
It is an awful culture MEG. Their religion demands it.

Good Morning everyone.

Prairie
36 posted on 06/12/2003 4:40:59 AM PDT by prairiebreeze (Middle East terrorists to the world: " We don't want no STINKING PEACE!!")
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To: prairiebreeze
I'll ping you to a David Warren post.
37 posted on 06/12/2003 4:42:11 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: prairiebreeze; MEG33
Good morning, y'all.

U.S. jets bomb terrorist training camp in northern Iraq: military

BAGHDAD, Iraq (AP) U.S. jets bombed what the military called ''a terrorist training camp'' in central Iraq on Thursday, while ground forces pressed forward with a massive sweep north of Baghdad aimed at finding militants organizing attacks on occupation forces.

U.S. planes attacked the site 95 miles north of Baghdad at about 1:45 a.m., U.S. Central Command said. A firefight then broke out, and one coalition soldier was slightly injured. It did specify the location of the camp, or say if there were Iraqi casualties.

Meanwhile, a combined sweep, dubbed ''Operation Peninsula Strike,'' continued for a third day, sending thousands of American troops through an area near the Tigris River town of Duluiyah, 45 miles north of Baghdad, U.S. Central Command spokesman Lt. Ryan Fitzgerald said.

Ground troops were backed up by fighter jets, attack helicopters and unmanned aerial drones. About 400 people were detained.


38 posted on 06/12/2003 5:51:04 AM PDT by Carolina
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UK wants cash cut off to Palestinian militants
LONDON, June 12 — Britain called on Thursday for greater international efforts to cut off funds for militant Palestinian groups after a suicide bomber killed 16 Israelis and wounded more than 100 on a Jerusalem bus.

Foreign Secretary Jack Straw also called for unspecified sanctions against supporters of the militants.

''One of the things that has to come out of this appalling outrage is a greater determination by the international community to clamp down on funding and support for terrorist organisations like Hamas,'' Straw told BBC radio.

''We have got to look at exactly what sanctions can be brought to bear -- and to do so with our European colleagues.''


39 posted on 06/12/2003 5:53:32 AM PDT by Carolina
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To: Carolina
Wonder if this is when one apache was shot down with no deaths..pilots recovered.
40 posted on 06/12/2003 5:54:43 AM PDT by MEG33
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