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'Iraqis did have Scuds' (Brit correspondent admits she "self-censored" her reports)
The UK Guardian ^ | June 11, 2003 | Ciar Byrne

Posted on 06/11/2003 4:00:27 PM PDT by veronica

Channel 4 News diplomatic correspondent Lindsey Hilsum has admitted that she "self-censored" her reports from Baghdad and did not tell viewers that Saddam Hussein's regime was hiding Scud missile launchers in residential areas, because she did not want to be thrown out of the city.

Hilsum saw a missile launcher in a back street of Baghdad after losing her way when driving to the scene of the first marketplace bombing in the city, in which 14 people were killed.

Although Channel 4 News was not censored by Saddam's secret police, the Mukhabarat, Hilsum decided not to report on what she had seen for fear of being ejected from the city.

"We were not censored. Some of the broadcasters had Mukhabarat with them all the time. Channel 4 News didn't have any problems like that. But there was one occasion when we did censor ourselves," she said.

"After the first marketplace bombing we heard there had been a hit and we were able to go there in our own vehicle. We got lost and a couple of blocks from where the two missiles had hit there was a Scud missile launcher with a Scud on top.

"We then realised the Iraqis were hiding Scuds in residential areas. If I'd said that I think we would have been thrown out the next day," she told a Media Society event last night.

Hilsum thought she had found a way round the problem when the American military issued a statement about the marketplace bombing, saying they had been aiming at eight or nine missile launchers in the area.

However, the Americans later retracted this statement.

"I put in my copy: 'They may have been aiming at missile launchers in the area'. Then the Americans realised that if people put two and two together and realised that if they'd hit one of those launchers a lot more than 14 people would have been killed. Then they changed their minds and said the Iraqis must have hit themselves," she said.

When covering future combats, Hilsum said broadcasters should ensure that if they hire security guards they should not be allowed to carry arms, as happened in Iraq.

The issue was highlighted when a CNN team accompanied by an armed bodyguard returned fire at an Iraqi manned checkpoint in Tikrit. The decision to carry arms was lambasted by international press watchdog Reporters Sans Frontieres, but a CNN spokeswoman denied the broadcaster had set a "dangerous precedent".

"I know this happened in Baghdad - that security officers hired by broadcasters carried weapons. I know it's still going on," said Hilsum.

"If we carry weapons we become combatants and have no right to ask any army or rebel group to respect our independence and we have to be clear as an industry that this is going on," she told an audience of fellow journalists.

Hilsum also said it was a "scandal" that three American networks pulled out of Baghdad before the war began. On top of that, the former Iraqi regime ejected Fox News and CNN, meaning American viewers had no home-grown account of what was going on in the city.

She blamed the withdrawal of the US networks on "pressure from the Pentagon", adding that even small American newspapers had reporters in Baghdad.

"The Atlanta Constitution had two correspondents but the American networks weren't there and that's very serious because it means the Americans don't know what happened," Hilsum said.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: battleofiraq; bushdoctrineunfold; iraq; marketbombing; missiles; scuds; warcrimes; warlist
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1 posted on 06/11/2003 4:00:27 PM PDT by veronica
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To: veronica; Carolina; TexKat; Ragtime Cowgirl; Timeout
Wasn't this reporter hanging out in front of our Baghdad cam with Pretty Chicken during the war??
2 posted on 06/11/2003 4:10:03 PM PDT by Dog
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To: Grampa Dave; Ernest_at_the_Beach
Media coming clean again..
3 posted on 06/11/2003 4:10:59 PM PDT by Dog
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To: veronica
"The Atlanta Constitution had two correspondents but the American networks weren't there and that's very serious because it means the Americans don't know what happened," Hilsum said.

And this person calls herself a reporter? I think Americans were getting reports from Baghdad regularly. Does she actually believe that reporting from Rather, Jennings or Brokaw would have been better than what we saw on Foxnews?

She claims to have self-censored amazing news. How were people served by her only reporting 'safe' facts.

4 posted on 06/11/2003 4:13:19 PM PDT by maica (Don't believe everything you read in the papers- Jayson Blair)
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To: Dog Gone; Howlin
I'll be damned she saw a SCUD near the first market "bombing"

Hilsum saw a missile launcher in a back street of Baghdad after losing her way when driving to the scene of the first marketplace bombing in the city, in which 14 people were killed.

Although Channel 4 News was not censored by Saddam's secret police, the Mukhabarat, Hilsum decided not to report on what she had seen for fear of being ejected from the city.

5 posted on 06/11/2003 4:13:23 PM PDT by Dog
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To: veronica
I saw the hole that missile hit made in the pavement, and it didn't look near big enough to have been one of ours. It looked the size of your average Philly pothole. And I also saw a photo of the Baghdad night sky, showing the SAMs going straight up.... and coming straight back down, having failed to find a target. To my layman's mind, case closed: Most of these errant missile hits were Iraqi SAMs being used improperly and launched way too close to civilian areas.
6 posted on 06/11/2003 4:14:30 PM PDT by redbaiter
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To: Dog
I wonder how many others "self censored" so they could stay in country.

Disgusting.
7 posted on 06/11/2003 4:15:48 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: veronica
Channel 4 News diplomatic correspondent Lindsey Hilsum

If anyone can claim that it's likely a British female diplomatic correspondent can tell a "SCUD" from a SA-2, then I'm Saddam Hussein.

Even the military started using "SCUD" as a generic term for "missle" during the war.

The missile that people saw in the background on TV coverage in Baghdad was a SA-2, for example (a really big surface-to-AIR missle) and I suspect that's what she saw.

And we now know there were no SCUDs fired at Coalition forces during the war; there was a lot of misuse of "SCUD" as a generic term, particularly by Kuwaiti military sources.

8 posted on 06/11/2003 4:17:10 PM PDT by John H K
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To: redbaiter
She knew the truth of that market bombing and decided to hide the fact of the missile launcher until what 3 months later.....the %$#%^@!!!!!!!
9 posted on 06/11/2003 4:17:38 PM PDT by Dog
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To: veronica
Better late than never? In some sense, I suppose the answer is yes. In another however, they wonder why we don't trust the media? Always looking out for number one, and the safety of American and British forces, not to mention the civilians they cared so much about, be damned!
10 posted on 06/11/2003 4:20:42 PM PDT by ladyinred
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To: veronica

11 posted on 06/11/2003 4:21:33 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: John H K
John this isnt about the what size the missiles the Iraqis had .....this is about a reporter deciding her access to the story was more important than getting the real facts out.

She knew the Americans were being blamed for that market bombing yet she hid the fact of that missile launcher being parked near that market.

12 posted on 06/11/2003 4:22:01 PM PDT by Dog
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To: veronica
KEEP IN MIND: Just because this bimbo thinks the misile in question was a "Scud" DOES NOT MAKE IT SO. There are a lot of different surface-to-surface missiles, and nobody denies Saddam had these (I mean, he fired them at coalition forces), but "Scud" refers to a specific type of missile that is especially notable because it was banned for Saddam after Operation Desert Storm.
13 posted on 06/11/2003 4:25:47 PM PDT by xm177e2 (Stalinists, Maoists, Ba'athists, Pacifists: Why are they always on the same side?)
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To: FreedomCalls
Barf. I prefer this gang...:)


14 posted on 06/11/2003 4:27:58 PM PDT by veronica (How's about a Palestinian state inside France? It could be called "Francenstine"...)
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To: John H K
The missile that people saw in the background on TV coverage in Baghdad was a SA-2, for example (a really big surface-to-AIR missle) and I suspect that's what she saw.

Quite possibly, but one of the illegal missles that Saddam did have, the one we saw in pairs in the back of trucks and so forth, was a derivitive of the SA-2, even though it was a surface to surface missle and not a SAM. They put on smaller control fins, since a SSM doesn't need to manuever as violently as a SAM does, the weight saved could then be used for a combination of more fuel and bigger warhead. The SSM, the Al Samoud used the same motors as the SA-2.

15 posted on 06/11/2003 4:29:15 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: veronica
Maybe she needs to apply for a position with CNN... Sounds like she would fit right in with their style of journalism/editing...
16 posted on 06/11/2003 4:41:27 PM PDT by cavtrooper21 ("..he's not heavy, sir. He's my brother...")
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To: FreedomCalls
What is it Mike Savage calls gals who look like her? Mean faced, clipped haired.....
17 posted on 06/11/2003 4:51:00 PM PDT by bigfootbob
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To: bigfootbob
Mean faced, clipped haired.....

And that is her official portrait from the Channel 4 web site!

18 posted on 06/11/2003 4:58:52 PM PDT by FreedomCalls (It's the "Statue of Liberty," not the "Statue of Security.")
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To: John H K
I'm skeptical of her assessment as well. I'm not sure what training she has had in missile/launcher identification.

And I also agree that SCUD, a prohibited missile family, had become a generic term for reporters.

Regardless, this missile would be a military target in a civilian area.

Also, I'm not aware of any reports on the missiles that were fired by Iraq, particulary at the beginning of the war (http://www.sacbee.com/24hour/special_reports/iraq/story/829513p-5850028c.html):

"Spokesman Jim Wilkinson told The Associated Press Thursday that Iraq had fired at least two missiles exceeding the 150-kilometer (93-mile) limit, one that flew 158 kilometers (about 99 miles) and one that flew 190 kilometers (about 119 miles), since the war started.

"Kuwait's U.N. Ambassador Mohammad Abulhasan also claimed in a letter to the Security Council that at least one of 11 missiles fired by Iraq into Kuwait between Thursday and Monday was a banned Scud missile."
19 posted on 06/11/2003 5:03:46 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: veronica
"The Atlanta Constitution had two correspondents but the American networks weren't there and that's very serious because it means the Americans don't know what happened"

The Americans don't know what happened because news sluts like this bimbo and CNN weren't telling us.

They didn't want to report the truth because they were afraid they would get thrown out of Iraq. If they aren't going to report the truth, what the hell is the point of their being there?

20 posted on 06/11/2003 5:05:47 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy
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