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Couple Among Five Victims of Crash
lattimes.com ^ | June 10th 2003 | Eric Malnic

Posted on 06/11/2003 11:27:28 AM PDT by nyconse

A couple from Marina del Rey were among the five people who died Friday when a light plane crashed into an apartment building in the Fairfax district, relatives said Monday.

Tony Vinatieri, 42, and Bonnie Vinatieri, 41, had joined the flight to Sun Valley, Idaho, because the pilot, Jeffrey T. Siegel, was a contractor who wanted to show them houses he had built there, John Vinatieri of Napa said.

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: apartment; be36; bonanza; california; fairfax; five; hollywood; plane; victims
It seems it was indeed an accident-not terrorism. I am very relieved. If I contacted you asking for more information, I am sorry. It was right there all the time!
1 posted on 06/11/2003 11:27:28 AM PDT by nyconse
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To: nyconse
FAA Registry Name Inquiry Results

JEFFREY THOMAS SIEGEL

Street 2837 GRANVILLE AVE

City LOS ANGELES State CALIFORNIA

County LOS ANGELES Zip Code 90064-3605

Country UNITED STATES

Medical

Medical Class : Third Medical Date: 08/2001

Certificates

DOI : 07/03/1996

Certificate: PRIVATE PILOT

Rating(s):

PRIVATE PILOT AIRPLANE SINGLE ENGINE LAND

2 posted on 06/11/2003 11:34:34 AM PDT by pabianice
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To: pabianice
No instrument rating.
3 posted on 06/11/2003 11:34:52 AM PDT by pabianice
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DOI : 07/03/1996

It's possible that he got the rating more recently and the database hasn't been updated. Most insurers wouldn't write a Bonanza owner that didn't have an instrument rating.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

4 posted on 06/11/2003 11:40:26 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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To: nyconse
It seems it was indeed an accident-not terrorism. I am very relieved. If I contacted you asking for more information, I am sorry. It was right there all the time!

ReligionOfMassDestruction will be along any time now to theorize that the plane was filled with Arabs and the US Government killed these people and placed their bodies in the building as part of the plan to cover up Muslim terrorism in the US.

5 posted on 06/11/2003 1:14:31 PM PDT by John H K
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Unfortunately, it appeared that he was not instrument rated. I posted in the original breaking thread (link's around here somewhere) that he was not instrument rated. A friend of mine is a CFI in SMO, and that's what she told me... I'm unsure of the insurance requirements here ... he bought the plane about a year and a half ago. Very sad...
6 posted on 06/12/2003 12:48:01 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: Criminal Number 18F
Found it:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/924606/posts

7 posted on 06/12/2003 12:50:07 AM PDT by bootless (Never Forget)
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To: nyconse
What a horrible accident. I can only hope that somehow, for some reason, none of the victims were "aware" during their last seconds/minutes.

I wonder if there's any connection to Adam Vinatieri.
8 posted on 06/12/2003 1:08:36 AM PDT by hmmmmm
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To: nyconse; All
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9 posted on 06/12/2003 2:01:50 AM PDT by stlnative
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To: bootless
Unfortunately, it appeared that he was not instrument rated.

Awww. What a damned shame. It's not only tragic, it's downright cruel to risk others' lives. VFR into IMC, hundreds of lives a year, the sheer repetitive stupidity of it angers me. Irresponsibility.

For every prrang where the pilots have no chance, there's hundreds of these where it was what the pilots did or failed to do that made the difference. This is one case where I can't hold to my preferred standard of de mortuis nil nisi bonum.

Thanks for informing me, anyway. Sigh.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F

10 posted on 06/14/2003 8:18:39 PM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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