Posted on 06/11/2003 2:18:54 AM PDT by kattracks
And your lack of logic addresses what? That individual rights aren’t the 9th minus 10th amendments? Hehe
Yeah. And ownership of guns isn't a "right" in some states. You agree with that too?
More mentally ill logic, show me where sodomy is a right in the constitution?
Your concept of truth bears little to no resemblance to reality. Aside from that, truth CAN be ad hominem. You didn't know?
Maybe in the mentally ill mind that doesn’t want to know the reality of her pathology.
It addresses the fact that "society" is not recognized to have rights.
"More mentally ill logic, show me where sodomy is a right in the constitution?"
The 9th amendment is a hint. You're really prepared to give it all to the government, aren't you? You actually feel that government has a compelling interest to regulate private, adult, consensual behavior.
And you favor smaller government, how exactly?
So.. do you at least admit that truth can be an ad hominem? Or are you going to gloss over this glaring mistake?
If you want to discuss the de-listing of pedophilia, then post to me and I'll be glad to talk about it. If you want to argue (badly) about homosexuality, either mail me or keep it on a thread about homosexuality.
Why? Their "prophet" had a six-year-old girl as a wife (and definitely consumated that marriage by the time she was 9).
Such activities are evil, but it is an evil that has been with humanity for quite some time; and an evil that other cultures, especially Islamic ones, often refuse to recognize.
They are criminals all right. But I don't think criminals are sane.
Not as if it mattered much; it's a question of how you define "sane." Whatever definition you choose, though, it should be clear that no one must be forgiven his crimes just because he is considered a vegetable.
Oh please, society is a group of individuals and you know that’s who and what I was addressing. .. Nice try again at sophistry though.
The 9th amendment is a hint.
But it’s at the mercy of the 10th so your example is wrong in many cases, so AGAIN where is sodomy listed in the constitution like gun ownership?
You're really prepared to give it all to the government, aren't you?
I’m prepared to live by the constitution unlike you and if you live in one the states that has sodomy laws that would make you a felon.
You actually feel that government has a compelling interest to regulate private, adult, consensual behavior.
It does for the sake of society, like consensual pedophilia, bestiality, drug and euthanasia laws.
And you favor smaller government, how exactly?
Exactly how it’s been for the past couple hundred years.
So.. do you at least admit that truth can be an ad hominem? Or are you going to gloss over this glaring mistake?
Nope, the truth is not an attack on ones character, it’s simply the truth.
How is it that you manage to turn every thread into a discussion of homosexuality?
It’s gereally because the thread is about homosexuality.
If you want to discuss the de-listing of pedophilia, then post to me and I'll be glad to talk about it.
This thread is about paraphilic disorder so homosexuality, bestiality…are all included.
If you want to argue (badly) about homosexuality, either mail me or keep it on a thread about homosexuality.
No need, you’re here because you are a homosexual so why pretend otherwise?
America's dead and dying hand is on the threshold of the church while the spirit of Sodom and Gomorrah vex us all
When it gets to the point that people would rather come out of the closet than clean it, it's a sign that the judgment of God is gonna fall
Ah,but step follows step: When it is declared that XYZ is not a mental illness, that it stands to follow that it (like homosexuality) is either:
a) An inhert condition
or
b) An "orintation"
neither of which is a crime. Indeed, this could very easily be spun in this fashion:
"Yes, my client knows that XYZ is not a usual practice and is even condemned by many others in society. And, yes, he still does it. And we know now it's not a mental illness. We know he isn't 'crazy'. So the question is not 'Did he do it?' but 'Why did he do it?' Because it is his sexual orintation. Something he was born with. Something over which he has no control..."
Now there's a an abnormality. This nutcase is suffering from delusions of grandeur. Does he REALLY think that all of society stops and accepts what ever his so-called profession declares? Does he really think their opinions supersede the legal and electoral process in this country?
This is the problem, these whackos place too much self-importance in themselves.
What? Because she's the VP's daughter she can't be mentally ill? Mental illness, like multiple scierosis, respects no one.
Truer words were never spoken
Clearly labeling something as an illness does not always stigmatize it. In fact it can have to opposite effect. The focus out to be on whether or not pedophilia is an illness. Saying it's not is not the same thing as saying it's perfectly moral. And in fact I could see how removing it for the list of mental illnesses could highlight the moral issues.
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