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DOCUMENT SHOWS CHURCH ROBBER SHOT IN THE BACK

Posted on 06/10/2003 3:21:43 PM PDT by skeptoid

Document shows church robber shot in back

The Associated Press

(Published: June 7, 2003) ANCHORAGE (AP) - At least one of the men killed by Big Lake pastor Phillip Mielke was shot in the back, according to his death certificate.

Mielke has said he shot Chris Palmer and Frank Jones just after 5 a.m. April 24 when he caught them robbing the Big Lake Community Chapel across the road from his house. He said he thought the men were coming toward him in the dark when he fired at them with a .44 Magnum pistol.

Palmer, 31, was found dead in a ditch just beyond the chapel. Jones, 23, died within hours at a house a few miles away where the two men lived with Palmer's girlfriend, family members said.

Palmer's cause of death is listed as "Penetrating Gunshot Wound of Back" on a death certificate signed April 30 by acting chief medical examiner Franc Fallico. The certificate was provided to the Anchorage Daily News by Renee Borello, Palmer's former girlfriend and the mother of his 8-year-old son, Anthony.

The death certificate says Palmer was shot and died at 5:30 a.m. It says the "place of injury" was "Church, Near Church."

So far, Alaska State Troopers have refused to say whether they think men were shot inside or outside the church, or even to answer questions about the location or the number of their gunshot wounds.

The pastor told his side of the story in a written statement released by his attorneys Thursday.

Borello, Palmer's former girlfriend, said she called Mielke on Friday morning after reading a newspaper account of the pastor's statement, which includes an apology to the families of the two men who were shot.

"I called him a coward," she said by phone Friday from her home in Rohnert Park, Calif., where she runs a day care center. "If they had been armed and he had shot them, he would have nothing but my deepest sympathies for what he went through. But that didn't happen."

No evidence revealed to date has suggested either Palmer or Jones was armed. They apparently were planning to steal food, small appliances, and some old tools.

The death certificate for Jones lists his cause of death as "multiple gunshot wounds." It doesn't specify where he was wounded.

Jones' mother, Rachael Pigott, said she visited the chapel and the pastor last month. On Friday, she said she doesn't think the men were running at Mielke but rather were trying to run away.

"The reason they were coming toward him is that's where the door is -they were running out the door," Pigott said.

Asked to respond Thursday to a report that Palmer might have been shot in the back, Mielke's attorney, Jerry Wade, said his firm had requested but not received copies of the autopsy reports.

Wade said Mielke shot the men at close range, but it's possible he didn't know exactly where he hit them.

"The shots were fired in the dark," he said.

Investigators with the Alaska State Troopers expected to file their final reports with the Palmer district attorney on Friday afternoon, according to trooper Capt. Dennis Casanovas.

District Attorney Roman Kalytiak said Friday the case could go to grand jurors on Tuesday if he has enough time to review the reports.

Kalytiak said he probably will not ask the grand jury to hand up a specific indictment. Rather, he said, he'll give them a series of options: second-degree murder, manslaughter or criminally negligent homicide. The grand jury also could choose not to indict.

Copyright © 2003 The Anchorage Daily News (www.adn.com)


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1 posted on 06/10/2003 3:21:43 PM PDT by skeptoid
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To: skeptoid
"I called him a coward," she said by phone Friday from her home in Rohnert Park, Calif., where she runs a day care center. "If they had been armed and he had shot them, he would have nothing but my deepest sympathies for what he went through. But that didn't happen."

Who is the coward? The thief stealing from others in the cover of night? OR the man willing to stand up against those who would steal from them, without knowing whether they were armed and possibly dangerous?

2 posted on 06/10/2003 3:27:46 PM PDT by IYAS9YAS (Go Fast, Turn Left!)
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To: skeptoid
This could still be a good shoot. It's not unusual for people to hit a goblin in the back, even though they thought that he was coming towards them. The first shot, even if it's a miss, will cause most people to turn and run. Subsequent shots then hit them in the back. In the heat of the moment, the shooter doesn't realize that the target has turned to run and continues to shoot until the threat has been eliminated; or until the gun is empty.
3 posted on 06/10/2003 3:28:57 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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To: skeptoid
Personally, the ONLY way I'd have any sympathy for a dead burglar is IF he was found with his hands tied behind his back, and a gunshot in the back of his head.

These people weren't framed, they weren't innocently wandering about ... they were caught committing a crime, and justice was dispensed on the spot. I'd like to see more stories end like this, because these people won't be out in 24 hours and committing more crimes.
4 posted on 06/10/2003 3:29:20 PM PDT by Hodar (With Rights, comes Responsibilities. Don't assume one, without assuming the other.)
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To: IYAS9YAS
As long as the Pastor said, "It's coming right for us" first, it was ok.
5 posted on 06/10/2003 3:30:03 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: skeptoid
The grand jury also could choose not to indict.

Lets hope the Alaskan jury is sharper than most, uses common sense and selects the last option.

6 posted on 06/10/2003 3:30:09 PM PDT by roderick
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To: IYAS9YAS
Note to robbers: If caught stealing, don't run toward the person that caught you.

2 more for the Darwin award.

7 posted on 06/10/2003 3:31:35 PM PDT by #3Fan
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To: skeptoid
If they were committing a crime and startred running toward the Pastor in the dark, even though it was also toward the door, he has the right to shoot them.

Shot in the back does not mean the perp was running away from the Pastor, it just means that he turned around in search of cover just before the shot was fired.

8 posted on 06/10/2003 3:34:13 PM PDT by CurlyDave
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To: Hodar
#4: You've got that right.
9 posted on 06/10/2003 3:35:25 PM PDT by onedoug
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To: onedoug
If this happened in Massachusetts,my state, the pastor would be jailed and the offenders would be treated like celebrities.

10 posted on 06/10/2003 3:39:28 PM PDT by Mears (.)
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To: skeptoid
They apparently were planning to steal food, small appliances, and some old tools.

Looks like the 'journalist' is using the tired, old liberal trick of making it look like it was just a 'little bit of theft' and is OK.

11 posted on 06/10/2003 3:43:01 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Laws do not prevent crime, laws only punish behavior (if they are enforced).)
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To: CurlyDave
Shot in the back does not mean the perp was running away from the Pastor, it just means that he turned around in search of cover just before the shot was fired.

10-4. When facing robbers in the dark its prudent to fire in self defense and continue shooting until you perceive there is no further threat.

There was no way for this Pastor to know whether the men were or were not armed. Also, facing more than one adversary IS clearly a justification of use of lethal force (assiming the men did not stop and have their hands straight up in the air.)

My prediction is the grand jury will choose not to indict.

12 posted on 06/10/2003 3:44:16 PM PDT by toddst
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To: CPOSharky
Well, inasmuch as they're dead, you have to wonder how the reporter figured out what they were intending to do. Ouija board?
13 posted on 06/10/2003 3:45:42 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: CurlyDave
Shot in the back does not mean the perp was running away from the Pastor, it just means that he turned around in search of cover just before the shot was fired.

The gas station near my old office had a shooting in which the perp was shot in the back. He came into the gas station to rob it, shot off a round into the ceiling, the attendant grabbed the gun and got off a shot as the perp was going out the door (it was a small, non-convenience store gas station). He hit the perp in the back & he dropped a few feet outside the door (I know this because I saw his body crumbled in a heap as I drove to work.) The DA ruled it was justifiable homicide.

14 posted on 06/10/2003 3:49:04 PM PDT by Catspaw
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To: IYAS9YAS
I guess you are supposed to wait until someone points a gun at you before you can defend your church?
15 posted on 06/10/2003 3:50:12 PM PDT by ItisaReligionofPeace ((the original))
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To: IYAS9YAS
AT least he didn't jabber at 'em in Latin and try to cornhole 'em. Hell, my preacher don't pack heat but I may just switch congregations if this is how the other aisle lives.
16 posted on 06/10/2003 3:57:10 PM PDT by tupac
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To: skeptoid
"Penetrating Gunshot Wound of Back"

Is not the same thing as "Gunshot wound in the Back". .44 magnum will go right through in many cases, leaving a larger exit wound than the entrance wound, which will still be plenty big. (.44 inches).

At least the good pastor used enough gun.

17 posted on 06/10/2003 3:57:23 PM PDT by El Gato
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To: Billthedrill
"Tired, old liberal trick"

No facts, no reason to suppose, toss in in gratis, just make it look like gun play was not necessary.

Tired, old, liberal, anti-gun trick.

18 posted on 06/10/2003 3:59:43 PM PDT by CPOSharky (Laws do not prevent crime, laws only punish behavior (if they are enforced).)
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To: tupac
AT least he didn't jabber at 'em in Latin and try to cornhole 'em.

ROFLMAO...been a long time since I passed milk through my nose.
19 posted on 06/10/2003 4:03:12 PM PDT by oh8eleven
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To: CPOSharky
I like the way that the writer added "stealing food"---now that REALLY gets my sympathy/sarcasm. Poor hungry buggers!
20 posted on 06/10/2003 4:07:50 PM PDT by basil
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