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We the Women Know that Language Matters
NY Newsday ^ | June 10, 2003 | Suzanne Kelly

Posted on 06/10/2003 11:52:42 AM PDT by presidio9

Edited on 06/10/2003 11:57:39 AM PDT by Admin Moderator. [history]

When, in 2001, New York voters were asked to amend the state's 226-year-old constitution to make it gender-neutral there was, as would be expected, some fervent opposition.

Led by conservative and religious forces, they claimed there was already an implied inclusiveness to words like "man," "mankind," "he's" and "his," and that, if anything, such a change would be purely symbolic - a gesture that added up to little more than political correctness stretched to its limits. At its best, the move was pure "foolishness," as the Rev. Duane Motley of New Yorkers for Constitutional Freedoms put it, and at its worst it represented "the feminizing of our society."

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: New York
KEYWORDS: militantfeminism

1 posted on 06/10/2003 11:52:42 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: biblewonk
Isaiah 3:12 ping.
2 posted on 06/10/2003 12:15:14 PM PDT by newgeezer (fundamentalist, regarding the Constitution AND the Holy Bible)
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To: presidio9
Just a side note...there is no requirement for an end tag when using the < p> tag (i.e., </ p>)
3 posted on 06/10/2003 12:32:45 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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To: LiteKeeper
I didn't use it. Autoexerpt did.
4 posted on 06/10/2003 12:50:39 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: newgeezer
Youths oppress my people,
women rule over them.
O my people, your guides lead you astray;
they turn you from the path.
5 posted on 06/10/2003 12:52:06 PM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
I don't get why people would oppose gender neutral language.

What's the problem?

6 posted on 06/10/2003 3:25:07 PM PDT by Qwerty
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To: presidio9; LadyX
"the feminizing of our society."

No Reverend... You must refer to ours as "The Gelded Age!"

7 posted on 06/10/2003 5:25:44 PM PDT by SierraWasp (It's not SARS, it's SAMS!!! (Severe Acute Media Syndrome))
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To: Qwerty
I don't get why people would oppose gender neutral language.

Because it is unnessessary politically correct nonsense.

8 posted on 06/11/2003 6:28:15 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
"Because it is unnessessary politically correct nonsense."

Like naming french fries freedom fries?

I think it would be beneficial to have the wording changed to reflect today's language. I can't see a reason to oppose such a thing, anyway.

9 posted on 06/11/2003 7:29:28 AM PDT by Qwerty
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To: Qwerty
Like naming french fries freedom fries?

Why yes, it is as silly as that.

10 posted on 06/11/2003 7:41:41 AM PDT by edsheppa
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To: Qwerty
Like naming french fries freedom fries?

Exactly. Will changing "Mankind" to "Personkind" make women any more equal to men or make language any less confusing? Of course not. Most secure women that I know spend no time worrying about this.

11 posted on 06/11/2003 7:43:09 AM PDT by presidio9
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To: presidio9
Exactly. Will changing "Mankind" to "Personkind" make women any more equal to men or make language any less confusing? Of course not. Most secure women that I know spend no time worrying about this.

Some of the more radical feminists object to the "son" in person, because they believe it contains a subconscious bias.

12 posted on 06/11/2003 7:48:22 AM PDT by far sider
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To: presidio9
"Exactly. Will changing "Mankind" to "Personkind" make women any more equal to men or make language any less confusing?"

While it won't "increase equality", it is a message about the attitude of the state. I think it helps in some way to update the language, and even assuming it does not.. it doesn't hurt. I wouldn't waste time opposing such an effort.

"Most secure women that I know spend no time worrying about this."

Well then I hope most men spend no time worrying about the change.

13 posted on 06/11/2003 8:25:37 AM PDT by Qwerty
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To: edsheppa
"Why yes, it is as silly as that."

It's the message sent. That's why they wasted time on the "freedom fries" garbage. In this case, I think the message makes more sense and as such I don't oppose it.

14 posted on 06/11/2003 8:27:44 AM PDT by Qwerty
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