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Vanity: Free Republic Priority One: Defending the Constitution
Free Republic | June 10, 2003 | Jim Robinson

Posted on 06/10/2003 4:17:50 AM PDT by Jim Robinson

One thing I've learned during the last six years or so of hanging around Free Republic is that politics is a dirty game. It may qualify as a runner-up for the understatement of the year, but it seems to me that one of the worst things about politics is that it is made up of politicians. These guys seem to be desperate to get into office and once they've had a taste of power they're even more desperate to hang onto it. Doesn't matter what the Founders had in mind for our Republic and or what they wrote into the Constitution, if the elected politicians feel that they can create or expand another give-away program or cater to the demands of one special interest group or another, and it will help them get re-elected next time, well, why not? Constitution be damned.

The House represents the people. Sure, the Congressmen are supposed to be sensitive to the wants, needs, desires and demands of their constituents and they are and should be swayed by popular opinion and they should be passionate in their representation of the people. That's the name of the game and that's what the Founders intended. But when the people demand more than the Constitution allows, then what? Well, for one, you've got to get by the Senate. Then by the President, and perhaps by any Supreme Court challenges.

It's my understanding, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe the Founders established the Senate as the senior body of the bicameral legislature and set higher qualifications, higher standards and longer terms for its members. The Senators were to be experienced, wizened senior statesmen, insulated from swaying popular opinion, and the Senate as a body was to serve as a check on the hotheads in the House.

I also believe that one of the primary responsibilities of the Senate was to defend the Constitution and to guard over the longevity and continuity of the Republic. To this end, the Senate was designed to confirm judicial and high level executive appointments, ratify treaties and conduct impeachment trials--all highly essential elements to the maintenance of our constitutional republic, our national sovereignty and our Liberty.

To ensure that the Senators were truly insulated from swaying public opinion the Founders intended them to be appointed by the state legislatures rather than elected by the populace. It was hoped that only the very best statesmen, men of unimpeachable personal character, would rise to the top of the state legislatures and be considered to serve as U.S. Senators. Hmmmm... Hillary Clinton? Well, so much for high hopes.

I also understand that the three branches of the federal government were established as co-equal partners, with checks and balances designed so that no branch could control another and none could subvert the Constitution. The terms of the members of each branch were varied and staggered and the methods of election or appointment were different for each branch. The only members elected by the populace were to be the members of the House of Representatives. The Senators were to be appointed by the state legislatures, the President elected by the Electoral College and the Judiciary and high officers appointed by the President with the advice and consent of the Senate.

The members of the House serve for two years, the President four years, the Senators six years and the Judiciary for life. The number of representatives for each state is determined by the number of people in each state, each state was guaranteed representation by two senators, and the number of electoral college members for each state determined by the number of congressional representatives, etc.

The state governments were intended to remain sovereign and all rights and powers not expressly delegated by the Constitution were to be left to the states and to the people. The central government was restricted to only about a dozen and a half enumerated powers and functions and was never intended to be the absolute ruling authority over the states or the people that it is today.

The primary functions of the federal government was to defend our national borders, maintain the federal judiciary, run the post office, the weights and standards office, the patent office, etc., and to preserve, protect and defend the Constitution and our individual rights.

Well, we all know that this is not how it ended up. What went wrong? For one thing, the balance of power was upset with the ratification of the seventeenth amendment. This amendment allowed for the popular election of the Senators instead of having them appointed by the state legislatures. At first glance, this looks like it would be more democratic. In fact, it is. However, as we conservatives love to point out, our Founders did not establish a democracy, they established a Republic.

With the popular election of both the House and the Senate, we are now one step closer to being a democracy where the mob rules rather than the rule of law. Also, the states essentially lost their representatives to the federal government and now, four-score and some odd years later, the result is that most of their states rights and powers have been eroded away. And we're now seeing where the democrats are wanting to do away with the electoral college. Al Gore won the popular vote in the last election, due mostly to the large highly populated liberal states, but President Bush obviously won in the electoral college. Thank God for the wisdom of the Founding Fathers! If Hillary and her mob have their way, the electoral college is history and so is the Republic. That's what happens when you allow mob rule and we're only one amendment and one step away from that sorry end now.

The liberals rule the land. They control the education systems. They control the media. They control the judiciary. Regardless of the party in executive or legislative power, the career liberals control the more or less permanent bureaucracy, the regulatory agencies and the courts. In defending the Constitution from all enemies foreign and domestic, I count the liberals (lumping in the greenies, the socialists, the anarchists, and other assorted un-American types, etc.) as our primary domestic enemy number one. I count the left-leaning moderates and RINOs as domestic enemy number two.

Pretty basic and simple so far, but here's where it gets tricky. Like it or not, we have a two party system. Our good friends, the Libertarians, Constitutionalists, Reformers, Buchananites, paleocons, and other right-wingers, etc., may have some pretty good ideas about constitutionality, freedom, Liberty, etc., however, they are weak numerically, and will probably never get much stronger. Let's face it. The general populace has been indoctrinated for decades (make that several generations) by the liberal state controlled education system, brain-washed by the liberal controlled media and conditioned by the liberal controlled judiciary to accept whatever mushy touchy-feely liberal policy or concept that comes down the pike.

Where are the libertarian, reformist or strict constructionist parties ever going to find enough voters to overcome the Democrats and Republicans? Answer is they can't. It's an impossibility. Perhaps they can draw from the conservatives or Republicans, but they can hope to draw almost no liberal or Democrat voters. So, even if they can draw away from the conservative parties, it will only serve to strengthen the liberals and we will only reinstall Democrats to the majority. Happens every time. We flop back and forth between the Democrats and the Republicans and we continue to make zero progress, but the head-long slide into socialism continues on.

My conclusion is we will never, ever regain constitutional government until we completely demolish the liberal stranglehold on the bureaucracy, the education institutions, the media and especially, the judiciary. How do we do that? The most straightforward way, IMHO, is to vote out the Democrats. Ensure that we maintain as large a Republican majority as we possibly can. Ensure that the most conservative judges as can be found are appointed by the Republican president and confirmed by the Republican Senate. Why do you think Daschle and the Democrats are fighting so hard to block Bush's judicial appointments? They see the handwriting on the wall. As we begin replacing the liberal judiciary. the socialist welfare state is going to fall. The socialist bureaucracy will begin to crumble. We will withdraw from the U.N. and begin rescinding international treaties not in our best interests. We will be defending America and America's interests first.

Who knows? We may even get to the point we can overturn Roe vs Wade, repeal the 16th and 17th amendments, abolish the slave tax, privatize social security and medicare, repeal the unconstitutional gun control laws, dismantle the welfare state and reestablish the American Republic. These are my dreams, my goals and my reasons for Free Republic. If sometimes my actions seem a bit odd, please remember that my ultimate goals are to restore constitutional government and I see the total destruction of the Democrat Party and liberalism in general as the only possible solution to the problem. I don't care if people call me a neo-con, a bushbot, a blind Republican, a statist or whatever. I've asked many times but there has been no Libertarian or Buchananite or Reformer or Rockwellian or paleocon who has documented and presented a better plan or one that has any prayer of success, so I'm committed to this one.

As we move forward into the next election cycle, the FR battle cry will be: Restore the Republic! Vote out the RATs!

See you at the Free Republic George Bush Second Inaugural Ball in January '05!

Jim



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To: Jim Robinson
Thanks Jim, we needed that!
We should all be focused and active. The liberal socialist machine must be defeated at any cost.

Restore the Constitution is a great battle cry!
261 posted on 06/11/2003 11:52:38 AM PDT by mugs99
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To: Jim Robinson
I'm not near as negative on the Republicans as you are though. In any case, if we are to make any progress at all toward our goals, the Democrat Party must not be allowed to retake control of any branch of the government (IMHO).

I guess I am pretty negative about Republicans these days, Jim -- at least those outside the Bush Administration. I have great confidence in and tremendous respect for the President and his close advisors, especially Mssrs. Cheney, Rumsfeld, Wolfowitz, and Dr. Rice. I just note there are quite a number of congressional Pubbies that seem to give him almost as much trouble as the Dims.... Instead of standing with their President on, say, tax cuts (e.g., Grassley, McCain, Snowe, Collins, Chafee, et al.), they find every "high-minded" excuse to stick to the stinky status quo...instead of letting their leader LEAD.... Heaven forfend that those mandarins should ever follow anyone or anything but their own narrowly-defined political self-interest.

But you're absolutely right -- the Party of the Dim must be systematically denied the resumption of control of any branch of the government. That is essential! And this is so because the Left systematically lies and cheats. (Pubbies tend not to do truly outrageous stuff like that.) But the Left obviously has no compunction about rigging/stealing elections, or outright, calculated, deliberate lying to the public. And the general public manages to remain either clueless or indifferent about the Left's active subversion of American institutions. They get sucked into the rhetoric, not realizing how very bad the reality is for them in terms of both liberty and national security.

262 posted on 06/11/2003 12:13:20 PM PDT by betty boop (When people accept futility and the absurd as normal, the culture is decadent. -- Jacques Barzun)
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To: Jim Robinson
I like to dream...
263 posted on 06/11/2003 1:48:56 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (If you want to vote liberal, stay home!)
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To: MeeknMing
Thanks for the heads up!
264 posted on 06/11/2003 1:49:44 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: unspun
Thank you so much for sharing your views!
265 posted on 06/11/2003 1:59:23 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Jim Robinson
Vanity: Free Republic Priority One: Defending the Constitution

Mr. R.

As usual, your thread is thoughtful and sincere.

I agree 100% with your headline.

I can't share your confidence in the gop to Defend the Constitution.

Here in Ohio we have two pathetic senators and a putz governor.

All 3 are gop and all 3 need to be replaced.

Yet as incumbants, they will be up for re-election and once again I will be asked to hold my nose and support the lesser of two evils.

I have ONE vote. Thats my voice, thats the only way I have to express my dissatisfaction with the nature of our "leadership".

I refuse to support a candidate or a party that does not represent me.

From a cynical point of view, the "bb"s will tell me that my vote doesn't matter anyway...........something about 0.036%?

My vote matters to me, and it must be earned.
266 posted on 06/11/2003 2:22:19 PM PDT by WhiteGuy (MY VOTE IS FOR SALE)
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To: betty boop
Why fight and struggle for power and then not use it?

WE need to work hard to get a supermajority in the senate, 55 or 56 Republican senators, to me, isn't enough.

We need an overwhelming majority. It worked for the Raw New Deal democRats and we have been paying for their efforts for years in building a dependent system par non. A populace dependent on govt for anything and everything has to stop be the order of and fundamental social program changes and the day and eliminations and /or re-structuring thereof need to be made.

267 posted on 06/11/2003 2:41:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic..DemRats fear an informed populace..Spread the word;They're Done!!!)
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Oops. I have a sensitive damn Intellimouse. 8-\ I meant to say..

A populace dependent on govt for anything and everything has to stop being the order of the day and fundamental social/entitlements program changes and eliminations and / or re-structuring & adjustments need to be made.

268 posted on 06/11/2003 2:49:54 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic..DemRats fear an informed populace..Spread the word;They're Done!!!)
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To: NormsRevenge
Once you have that supermajority do you honestly think they will represent you?
269 posted on 06/11/2003 5:59:13 PM PDT by RockyMtnMan
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To: RockyMtnMan
Honestly? Not without putting spurs into their sides and a tether on their desires to satiate their appetites for OPM (other people's money).

We're talking about politicians here, after all, mere mortals aswim in a sea of money. Like ducks take to a pond, we will need to provide guidance as the oceans of money they handle these days have a tendency to make even good people lose sight of whose it is.

And frankly, the Constitution doesn't deal with fiscal structure to any serious degree.

No, that has been done by those who came long after the Founding Fathers were in their graves.

FRom the creation of the Federal Reserve to the imposition of the Income Tax, these acts too, were enacted in "good faith" to serve the greater good of all of us.

The side effect, intended or otherwise, has been to enslave rather then to serve the common good.

270 posted on 06/11/2003 6:20:31 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic..DemRats fear an informed populace..Spread the word;They're Done!!!)
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To: Jim Robinson
BUMP to that. Workin' to make it happen in these parts.....

(Been on vacation, be posting more later. Over an out)

271 posted on 06/11/2003 9:57:44 PM PDT by Cyber Liberty (© 2003, Ravin' Lunatic since 4/98)
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To: Copernicus
Thanks -- B A
272 posted on 06/12/2003 12:59:27 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: RockyMtnMan
<< Which is worse a sudden violent jerk or a slow removal of the bandage? >>

A slow removal of the bandage boils the FRog.
273 posted on 06/12/2003 3:12:27 AM PDT by Brian Allen ( Rebellion to tyrants is obedience to God - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: nanook
The Constitution Party is only three years old. Making a statement that they have no opinions on anything important is a little out there. They stand by the Constitution as their name implies, they are Pro_life, Pro Guns and anti-U.N. these issues may not seem important to you but they are to other conservatives.

As a relatively new political party they do suffer weaknesses in administration and are still striving to be recognized. They are undermanned on the leadership side, which some may see as a strength since the party platform is the Constitution, there are fewer people in a position, to corrupt their message with personal interpretations. Being only three years old suggests that they have less to hide and fewer scandals to defend.

I understand your frustration with not receiving a response to your e-mails, and that does imply an inert leadership, but also suggests the party is ripe for development since they are still building a support staff.

My objection to the Libertarians is their stance on open borders and their weakness on National defense.

We have been told at our local Republican Committee meetings that they are "not interested in issues and are more concerned with fund raising". Republican issues seem to develop at the national level and are ignored when initiated on the local level, this is contrary to the principles of the Constitution. The local meetings are often a battle of egos fighting over leadership roles. This seems epidemic in the party. Republicans will often enter debate on Congressional issues without support from third parties, as the democrats encourage their pet causes to join in debate and offer suggestions the Republicans find themselves out gunned and are forced to defend their failures as "Compassionate Conservatism", which really means they compromised an important issue.

When attending Constitution Party meetings everyone participates in issue discussions and civil debate is openly engaged without malice towards opposing sides. Of course this is easily achieved because of the limited attendance.

Conservative theory demands we offer an alternative to the Democrats if we succeed in making them irrelevant, what alternative do you offer?
274 posted on 06/12/2003 4:16:01 AM PDT by Fearless Flyers
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To: NormsRevenge; Jim Robinson; tpaine
Why fight and struggle for power and then not use it?

Exactly, NormsRevenge. The Dims in power use their majority to make new policy happen; virtually everybody on that side of the aisle lines up in support: The Dims can summon a united front.

Even out of power they can unite to block changes in the status quo they dislike. Just look at the success the Dims have had in (unconstitutionally) blocking the President's judicial appointments. If President Bush could get his "constitutional constructivist" judges on the bench, it would likely be his most important and lasting legacy, and would do so much to restore constitutional jurisprudence and the rule of law (that has been so gutted in recent times).

Which is why he is being fought tooth and nail in the Senate: The Dims know very well that so-called "conservative judges" would be inclined to put the kerbosh on legislative innovations that do not meet constitutional tests -- and that would thereby reduce the power (actually, the usurpations) of Congress.

The Pubbies, on the other hand, are a pack of individualists. They'll "substitute their own judgment" in lieu of accepting direction from their leadership at the drop of a hat. Thus divided, they are helpless to stop the Dims even when the Dims are out of power.

I suspect in many cases the Pubbies are simply lacking in political courage. This President has plenty of that; but he often can't get his own people in Congress on-board and, thus isolated, his policy agenda is undermined. It really is a most discouraging state of affairs.

275 posted on 06/12/2003 7:15:49 AM PDT by betty boop (When people accept futility and the absurd as normal, the culture is decadent. -- Jacques Barzun)
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To: Uncle Fud
do you know of any Republicans on the national stage who are willing to endorse all the above policies?

Rep. Ron Paul (R-TX)

276 posted on 06/12/2003 4:09:24 PM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: Copernicus
Currently we are blessed with Bush43, a man who, with all his virtues, still cannot pronounce NUCLEAR as well as non-native speakers for whom English is a second language. What is up with that? I thought the Republican Party was the party where words had meaning and actions had consequences.

That's part of his strategery.

Hehehe... I think he does it on purpose, actually... Just to p!ss folks like my colleagues (noocular physicicists) off...

277 posted on 06/12/2003 4:15:55 PM PDT by maxwell (Well I'm sure I'd feel much worse if I weren't under such heavy sedation...)
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To: Budge
Ping!
278 posted on 06/12/2003 7:48:58 PM PDT by sweetliberty ("Having the right to do a thing is not at all the same thing as being right in doing it.")
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To: Jim Robinson
I count the liberals [...] as our primary domestic enemy number one. I count the [...] RINOs as domestic enemy number two.

So no RINOs are liberals?

279 posted on 06/13/2003 7:51:09 AM PDT by MrLeRoy (The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. - Jefferson)
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To: Jim Robinson
"The number of representatives for each state is determined by the number of people in each state,"

Yes and no. One wonders what the House and Electoral College would look like, and how they would function, if we stayed with the original one representative per 30,000 people.

We have added almost 200 million new Americans since the size of the House was frozen at its current 435. What kind of "peoples" representation is this?

280 posted on 06/13/2003 9:40:03 AM PDT by robertpaulsen
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