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Charen: The Nazis, Again (WMD issue)
Townhall.com ^ | 6-9-03 | Mona Charen

Posted on 06/09/2003 9:32:55 PM PDT by cgk

The Nazis, again
Mona Charen (archive)

June 10, 2003 | printer friendly version Print | email to a friend Send

The whole world is focused on what we've failed to find in Iraq -- to the point of neglecting what we have found. In doing so, the press is missing the significance of what the United States and Britain have achieved.

The banned weapons will eventually be accounted for. Of that there can be no doubt. But the more important story is that the coalition overthrew a regime that can fairly be compared with Nazi Germany. Such a deed would be applauded by the world -- if we lived in a better world.

The absolute numbers of those tortured, maimed and killed by the Ba'ath government will never be known. But some estimates say 1 million Iraqis were butchered by Saddam. American and British forces are finding mass graves throughout the country. Corpses of men, women and children were found. Even some of the children had been tortured before being executed. A columnist for a Lebanese newspaper wrote: "This barbarism, unprecedented in human history, was committed by Arab hands, by hands that found such delight in death and murder that the death squads would send the heads of the victims to Saddam Hussein's two sons in cardboard boxes. . . . These plastic bags in the mass graves contained bullet-riddled skulls, bodies wrapped in rags, tied in ropes, or dressed in worn pieces of clothing. . . . Ropes still tied a mother's bones to her infant's, and a father's to his son . . . "

U.S. forces have reportedly captured millions of pages of meticulous documents from the files of the security forces, detailing tortures and murders by the regime. According to Insight magazine, "A single document dated August 1989 lists the names of 87 people who were executed and a summary of each case. The alleged crimes included trespassing into forbidden zones and teaching the Kurdish language." In one police station in Nasiriya, survivors showed U.S. Marines the electric shock prods, electric chair, and other torture implements, as well as tons of surveillance equipment. The station was filled with pictures of burned bodies.

The Saddam regime apparently used photos of its torture victims to intimidate others, particularly the victims' families.

Insight tells the story of Fatima Faraj, a Kurd whose nephews were arrested by the regime in 1986. After two years, they were executed. The Republican Guards demanded that their father pay a fee for their burial. When he demanded a receipt, the guards turned over the bodies. The father took the bodies of his sons home in boxes. "Their entire bodies other than (beneath) their underwear were places of burn," Fatima sobbed. "There were two black spots on their necks. They looked as though they were whipped and kicked throughout their bodies." Another nephew survived his torture. "He was kicked so bad," Fatima testified. "They took out all his fingernails and toenails. . . . He had a nervous breakdown."

Writing in the London-based Arabic newspaper Al-Sharq Al-Awsat, columnist Ahmed Al-Rab'i issued a "J'accuse" at fellow Arabs: "Is there not a single man of conscience who might be brought by these sights to . . . admit that he was mistaken, that he was unaware of the truth, that he was a victim of the misleading (Arab) media?" A Jordanian journalist declared the obvious: "The dictatorship of the Iraqi Ba'ath reached the level of Pol Pot and the Khmer Rouge in Cambodia . . . "

Any nation that marched into that torture chamber of a country and freed it deserves the world's gratitude. Instead, we have carping from all sides. Antiquities were stolen from the museum (by the way, only 47 unaccounted for out of the originally suggested 170,000), water and power supplies took more than a couple of weeks to stabilize, and we haven't yet laid hands on the well-hidden weapons of mass destruction. The weapons will be found. The rest is nonsense. The United States and Britain have done a magnificent thing. Even if nothing else follows from it -- no liberalization of the Arab world, no breakthrough between Israelis and Palestinians, no hobbling of the terror masters -- it will have been worth it.

©2003 Creators Syndicate, Inc.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Editorial; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; War on Terror
KEYWORDS: baathistregime; genocide; iraq; massmurders; monacharen; qusay; saddam; torture; uday; wmd

1 posted on 06/09/2003 9:32:55 PM PDT by cgk
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To: SpiderMBA; killjoy; prognostigaator; raybbr; Davis; sonofatpatcher2; laredo44; seamole; ...
Mona Charen ping.
2 posted on 06/09/2003 9:33:25 PM PDT by cgk (Rummy on WMD: We haven't found Saddam Hussein yet, but I don't see anyone saying HE didn't exist.)
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To: cgk
the coalition overthrew a regime that can fairly be compared with Nazi Germany.

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That was not the original stated purpose for the war. We are not to go to war and then find reasons for doing it afterward.

3 posted on 06/09/2003 9:44:39 PM PDT by RLK
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To: BartMan1
bump
4 posted on 06/09/2003 9:45:24 PM PDT by IncPen
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To: cgk
I think Mona Charen is one of the finest journalists around today. I've had some email exchanges with her in the past. She is always right on target. A good lady and a solid conservative too.

PLease place me on your Mona Charen PING list. Thanks

5 posted on 06/09/2003 9:51:42 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man; TexKat
I have chills even though there are no surprises.
6 posted on 06/09/2003 10:00:18 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: RLK
>>>That was not the original stated purpose for the war. We are not to go to war and then find reasons for doing it afterward.

What's your problem?

Mona Charen is a writer on varied topics that cover politics, social and cultural issues. She is offering her opinion about something. Her statement was, "The banned weapons will eventually be accounted for. Of that there can be no doubt. But the more important story is that the coalition overthrew a regime that can fairly be compared with Nazi Germany".

That's a pretty fair statement and true.

But since you mentioned it, lets spell it out clearly. While the Bush adminstration is having its problems finding Saddam's WMD, --- fact is, they've been hidden, destroyed or moved --- the truth is, Saddam ran his country in Hitler-like fashion. That's pretty obvious. And many in the Bush administartion compared Saddam's regime to the Third Reich before Operation Iraqi Freedom started.

7 posted on 06/09/2003 10:04:02 PM PDT by Reagan Man
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To: Reagan Man
My pleasure! ;)
8 posted on 06/09/2003 10:24:23 PM PDT by cgk (Rummy on WMD: We haven't found Saddam Hussein yet, but I don't see anyone saying HE didn't exist.)
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To: RLK
Oh, put a sock in it, loser. The WMD's were one of several reasons, another one of which was the Saddam regime.
9 posted on 06/09/2003 11:33:49 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const KayEyeDoubleDee& otherKIDD)
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To: cgk
If I were President, I would decree that this article be placed on the front page, above the crease, of every newspaper in America.

Or better yet, I would personally have it broadcast over the airwaves, and end by telling all the naysayers that they could kiss my fanny.
10 posted on 06/09/2003 11:36:58 PM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee (const KayEyeDoubleDee& otherKIDD)
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To: RLK
Yes- I agree. Sadaam's brutality has been fully known to us and our political leaders for years. The war was sold on the immediate threat of WMD's to the United States- not that Sadaam was a bad guy. If Sadaam's terror were the only reason to go in we wouldn't have gone.

The comparison to Hitler is laughable. Hitler was the maniacal leader of the most technologically advanced nation on Earth with a large and best trained military on Earth. Sadaam is the leader of a backwater 2nd world nation whose army has always been 5th rate. And this country didn't fight Hitler becasue of his crimes against minorities or the Death camps.

As for the WMD's being found- they still might be and it might be a little embarassing for all those screaming for an investigation these days. However- I think Sadaam gave away as much WMD's as terrorists could carry or cart away and then destroyed the rest before the war. And in that case- we hardly "safer" as a result of this war.

11 posted on 06/10/2003 8:17:30 AM PDT by Burkeman1
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To: RLK
Quote:

"That was not the original stated purpose for the war. We are not to go to war and then find reasons for doing it afterward."

The reasons for this war were laid out clearly in the 1441 (and the previous 16 UN resolutions)...requiring Saddam to present his WMDs to the inspectors, or to at least show he disposed of them. He did neither, and in fact, obstructed ever effort to find the truth. As someone also mentioned, Saddam was himself, a weapon of mass destruction. Even if we assume he didn't possess WMD's at that very moment, the UN...and even Scott Ritter, made claims that he could reconstitute these weapons within 6 weeks. His prior actions, coupled with his support of terrorism, made him a distabalizing factor in that region.

What is amazing to me is the level to which others are going to discredit this war effort when the danger that Saddam posed has been made for more than a decade by so many others...including those who now oppose the war. NOBODY ever said Saddam never had these weapons. I find some huge hypocrisy by those who said Bush should've foresaw 9/11 based on loose intelligence...and acted, while these same people are now condemning Bush for attacking Iraq based on a general consensus (Saddam's possession of WMDs) and better intelligence.

The brutality and inhumanity of Saddam's regime is just icing on the cake as far as I'm concerned. Those who can't see the threat Saddam posed, not only to this country, but for peace in the Mid-East, are just ignoring the obvious. This is still a war on terrorism and Saddam's support for terrorists was well documented. His financial support for Palestinian homicide bombers was enough for me. You add to that the discovery of retired and active terrorists found in Baghdad and you have a regime that is harboring terrorists, which the US clearly stated, will not be tolerated. Get a life...or at least be thankful that someone else is looking out for yours.
12 posted on 06/10/2003 8:55:22 AM PDT by cwb
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To: cgk
Nail, meet Hammer!
13 posted on 06/10/2003 9:54:01 AM PDT by hnorris (Deserve Victory)
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