Need some anti-recycling bumper stickers (vanity)

June 9, 2003

[ElkGroveDan]

Here's the deal. Out in Sacramento County where I live they provide each house with three of those big plastic trash cans, a brown one for garbage, a black one for lawn clippings and a green one for recycling products.

When I first moved in they showed up with all three and I told them to take away the recycling can because I was not going to use it. Family and friends suggested that I keep it and just fill it up with regular garbage. My problem is that I refuse to place it at the end of my driveway along with all the other sheeples advertising that I don't mind participating in socialist behavior modification.

My problem now is that when I moved in there were just my wife and two daughters and I and so I got by with the trash space we had. After the third baby I went to a trash compactor for all the plastic bottles and cartons and that saved a ton of room for a while. We had another baby this year and now with 6 people in the house the volume of trash has gone up and its getting diffuclt to deal with.

My choices were to either order another brown garbage can and pay through the nose for it; (apparently this is considered bad behavior for we lab rats, and when you order another one they need to apply a severe electric shock by way of some huge monthly charge.) or to order the green can for free and just throw garbage in it.

So I finally gave in and ordered the green "recycling" trash can. To set the message straight for my neighbors and other passers bye, I want to plaster it with anti-recycling bumper stickers.

I don't think the garbage-nazis care, since no one has objected yet to the DUMP DAVIS stickers we all still have on our cans on my block.

My request to my fellow freepers is this...Where can I get some good anti-environment anti-recycling bumper stickers?

[breakem]

Useless endeavor? Digging in the garbage? The way the lefties want you too AND some of your conservative neighbors. I recycled the last 15 years or so including in Elk Grove, you're one of the idiots I saw regularly. Guess it's afree country, trash on. Oh, and a hint, if you had to dig in your garbage to recycle, you were doing it wrong.

[rontorr]

if you had to dig in your garbage to recycle, you were doing it wrong.....................


EXACTLY

[ElkGroveDan]

Hold on there Clam. You're not recycling, you're getting back the nickel the libs were holding hostage. You're not even getting paid. Sure, get your deposit back. But that is not what is happening here. I get nothing for garbage at the end of the driveway.

[TheSpottedOwl]

I remember when you could have 7 or eight big old trash cans along the curb. Then came along this bright idea of limiting each residence to one garbage can and one recycling can, which the residents then got to pay for each month. Recently one of the kids threw a bag of household trash in the recycle can, and they sent me a letter saying that if it happened again they would fine me.

Don't stick garbage in your recycle can, it will cost you more money in the long run, and yes I can understand your frustration.

[Normal4me]

I agree with you. I don't recycle my cans though, I crush them and turn them in for the pocket money. I know, it's a waste of time and energy, but it's keeping them out of the land fill and I usually get a tank of gas out of it.

[Qwerty]

"I get nothing for garbage at the end of the driveway."

So is it about the nickel, or the PC conditioning, or the digging in the garbage? None of your reasons actually hold up, but I just want to make sure that I understand which falsehood you're clinging to.

[ElkGroveDan]

if you had to dig in your garbage to recycle, you were doing it wrong

No, I never did dig in my garbage. That's the point. I don't know how you are going to separate all the "goodies" from the rest of the garbage unless you set up an assembly line in your house. If you've done that then the libs have really gotten into your life.

But again, my point continues to be: If it is uselessand wasteful, why do it? No one has ever given me a compelling reason to recycle that doesn't involve the false claims of diminishsing resources or lack of landfill space.

[Qwerty]

"I agree with you. I don't recycle my cans though, I crush them and turn them in for the pocket money."

Win-win. :-)

[Petronski]

"Buy the Brown Can"

[ElkGroveDan]

So is it about the nickel, or the PC conditioning, or the digging in the garbage? None of your reasons actually hold up, but I just want to make sure that I understand which falsehood you're clinging to.

I'm not clinging to any falsehood. The nickel is the least of it. I'm not going to spend one extra second dealing with garbage than I have to. No one has yet to give me a reason why I should.

Sadly the left have been so effective in our schools for the past two decades equating recycling with some kind of civic or patriotic duty. It is an economic principle period. The left can't accept that most people would rather throw the can or bottle away than get .002 cents back, so they have tried to force it on us with arbitrary laws mandating recycling, deposits and fees -- for no good reason at all.

[ibbryn]

Here's a sticker for your can,
"If I have to recycle the terrorists win!"

Man, talk about choosing you battles...Throw your cans, bottles, paper and cardboard in one can, your trash in the other, and if you like to garden you can make a nice bit of compost with kitchen scraps.
I think you are spending far too much energy on this issue...but Onward! if you choose.

[IYAS9YAS]

When my granparents and their parents were suffering through the wars, they were recycling. Any metal, rubber, or other thing that could be used in the war effort was recycled. How's that?

[breakem]

I'm doing it for my kids and grandkids. Have you been near a big city and seen the mountain rise where the dumps are. How about we put a dump behind Walmart. Whether or not you think we have enough trees, what's wrong with recycling paper? How much longer do you think we can not recycle before it's a problem?

My 6 year old grandkid learned to recycle in two minutes.

You keep referring to libs doing things to you and me and setting up an assembly line in my house. Only have two dumping spots one for recycle and one for the main can. What's the problem. It seems to me you dug your heels in because you don't give a sh!t and now you are using the excuse that it's too complicated.

[Sonny M]

What is so evil about recycling?

Actually, believe it or not, it depends. Recycling can also be very bad for the enviornment. When you recycle paper, logging companies don't cut trees down, sounds good, except, when they do cut trees down, they plant more younger trees in there place. (you need to cut them down again in the future, right?). Since the logging industry isn't cutting down trees, some of them get old, and you get brushfires. Thats fewer trees, loss of homes and lives, and all sorts of air pollution. Its far more effective to let the logging cut down trees to produce paper, so that they can keep planting new ones.

Recycling plastics and aluminum falls into a different category in that it depends on how they are being recycled. In some cases, including one country in europe, they found they were creating more air pollution by trying to recycle then they would if they just burned it. You also get all sorts of waste if the recycling is not done efficiently and more pollution.

Recycling doesn't have to be bad, but that does not mean its always good.

[breakem]

You keep blaming the left for the idea of recycling. Whatever became of the word conservation?

[ElkGroveDan]

 
Recycling Trendy, But Often Costly

New evidence suggests that sometimes simply throwing garbage away is more environmentally friendly, financially prudent and safer for human health than following the omnipresent fashion of recycling.

An article by John Tierny, "Recycling is Garbage," which appeared in the New York Times Magazine, challenges the current recycling wisdom. While recycling occasionally makes economic sense (aluminum cans, automobile tires), it is more often a pointless and costly exercise.

• Tierny calculates that it costs more than $3,000 to recycle one ton of scrap metal, glass and plastic in New York City.

• And one would have to use a ceramic coffee cup 1,000 times before it would be less environmentally expensive than a throw-away polystyrene cup.

• Today, about 25 percent of solid waste is recycled compared to about 10 percent 10 years ago, and far below the 50 percent to 70 percent goals originally set in many communities.

• At today's prices, curbside recycling programs typically add 15 percent to the cost of waste disposal.

A number of governments are starting to rethink recycling. New York City mayor Rudolph Giuliani recently called New York's recycling goals "absurd" and "impossible."

Sometimes mandates to recycle and use recycled products create worse environmental and health hazards than the problems they were meant to solve.

• Government-mandated recycling of newsprint requires de-inking -- involving the use of toxic chemicals that create worse disposal problems.

• A road in Washington state built with recycled tires had to be closed after it began smoking and eventually burst into flames.

Critics charge that legislated mandates for the use and purchase of recycled products have wasted taxpayers' money, cost consumers more, both at the point of purchase and by limiting product options, dampened the development of resource-saving technological innovations and on occasion harmed the environment.

Technology, they contend, has made it possible to use resources without danger of exhausting them. And as for the space necessary to dispose of solid waste by traditional methods, garbage generated at current rates for the next 1,000 years could be contained in a landfill just 100 yards deep and 35 miles square.<

Source: Former Gov. Pete du Pont (National Center for Policy Analysis), "Rubbish Bin of Recycling," Washington Times, July 20, 1996.

http://www.ncpa.org/pd/pdenv38.html

[Normal4me]

Your point is that you are paying for it already so you might as well do nothing to help the environment? Does this include dumping used motor oil on the ground because-- hey you already paid for it right?

BTW I recall New Jersey was shipping their trash to other lands by barge because they had run out of landfill space. Recycling is not mandated in Florida (yet) but if people do their part hopefully it never will be.

It's called being responsible for yourself and your surroundings.

[rwfromkansas]

Why the hell would you want to protest recycling?

Are you some kind of moron?

Forced recycling should be protested, but are you seriously just looking for "anti-recycling" bumper stickers? If so, that is despicable. You shoudln't have to recycle if you don't want to, but face it, it is good for the environment.

[breakem]

I think the fires can be fanned by the uncleared underbrush, not sure you can pin that on recycling. Source: Dr. Bill Wattenberg.

[Sonny M]

See post 54. Recycling is not always good, there are alot of variables. It can be good, but it depends on whats being recycled and how.