Posted on 06/08/2003 6:16:24 AM PDT by Israel Insider
I have a copy of the Koran on my PC. A text search for "bears" does not com up with your quote
What kind of religion murders children for calling someone dirty?
Can you cite the verses there? If that is from the Koran, its a loose copy of an account from the Bible in II Kings 2:23-24 about the Hebrew prophet Elisha:
From there Elisha went up to Bethel. As he was walking along the road, some youths came out of the town and jeered at him. "Go on up, you baldhead!" they said. "Go on up, you baldhead!" He turned around, looked at them and called down a curse on them in the name of the LORD . Then two bears came out of the woods and mauled forty-two of the youths.
Apparently baldness was quite rare in the ancient near-east, and associated with disease and actually moral failure--seen as a judgement of God. These youths were not little kids (probably older teens) so they were of accountable age, and they were greatly (greatly) insulting God's prophet, hence the severe judgement (42 killed by 2 bears!!!).
I must admit, I don't find even that explanation satisfactory--so I plead an "I don't understand." But its in your Bible.... If the Koran copied it, well, that's par for the course. Still there's lots of things in our own religion that we don't understand...let alone other's.
Ummm, no, they don't, Mr Lewis.
In 1892, islam was declared to NOT come under the purview of the 1st Ammendment of the U.S. Constitution by the New York State Supreme Court.
That ruling has never been overruled, overturned nor vacated.
Time for a dope slap. I took the time to read the article and didn't see what the defense was. Because he has Muslim friends, Islam is defensible? That's his argument? Why aren't his Muslim friends in the streets protesting terroists? Why aren't Muslim majority countries rounding up terroists? They round up everybody else they don't like.
Also, does being a Jew and a Zionist give him special insight into Islam? To me this is a false credential. Islam does not discriminate between Christians and Jews. They depise both equally.
These "Muslims" he prattles on and on about "interacting" with are probably laughing at him when he walks out, and wishing they could slit his throat and get away with it, since you're a Jew.
Please. Spare me.
Islam is an evil, barbaric, religion that was initially spread by violence, and continues to use violence as the primary means to spread its twisted message to this day. It is a violent, murder cult. Of the major conflicts on planet Earth today, almost all of them involve Islamic populations trying to conquer their neighbors and impose Islamic law upon them.
So, as I said at the beginning, go f- yourself, buddy.
Islam's goal is to dominate the world, as it has been from the beginning - the Koran tells you so. The writings of the Koran are the ravings of an Arab madman; a drunk and a demon possessed pedophile named Mohammad (piss be upon him), and this vile so-called "religion" has brought misery, slavery, and tyranny in every nation it has taken over. It suppresses women and turns them into chattle and slaves who have no rights whatsoever. It's a barbaric religion.
Dumbasses like this guy better wake up. They better make sure Islam doesn't secure a foothold here, because America is all that stands between Islamofascism, and Western culture and civilization.
Europe already has so many Muslims that they're done for. It's too late for Europe. Watch what begins to happen to France in the next few years. They're the canary in the mine of Western Civilization. France will be the first to fall, and it won't be pretty (regardless of what you think about the French).
You make some good points, there are many Muslims that do not support terrorism. However, it doesn't stop the religion from being "evil", even if everyone who practices it is not "murderously evil", as they are being characterized.
You see, what makes Islam evil, is that it rejects Jesus. Oh, it accepts Jesus as a prophet, but not as the Son of God. It rejects the redemptive work of the cross.
At this point, you no doubt are asking, "but wait, I'm a Jew and Jews reject Jesus, does that make Jews evil?". I hate to be the one to break it to you, but yes. It's why Jerusalem was destroyed in AD70. It's why you have suffered 2000 years of exile. It is what ushered in the prophesized "times of the gentiles".
God who was opposed to any images, had Moses hang the image of a serpent on a tree. And when bitten by the serpents Israel had to look to it if they wanted to be healed. Think about how absurd that is that God would have Israel look to a statue of a serpent, of all things. What was He trying to teach you? That Jesus would come and become the symbol of sin (the serpent) and hang on a tree (the cross) if you are going to be healed (saved) when you are bitten by the serpent (sin).
When God asked Abraham to sacrifice his son and then provided a substitutionary sacrifice, He was telling you what He was going to do. The whole animal sacrifice system was to teach you that "atonement is in the blood". Jesus was the ultimate substitutionary sacrifice. God Himself paying the price.
The Jewish prophets told you when the Messiah would come, where he would be born, His lineage, and many other things. That the Jews didn't listen, that they didn't recognize when the Lord walked among them, was a great evil. Some did recognize it and they were the first Christians.
So why do we support Israel if it suffers from the same evil that Islam suffers from? Several reasons.
1) The Jews are kind of viewed like our older brothers that didn't quite listen to everything God said. Whereas the Muslims are viewed as a cult which turns everything on it's head in favor of their new prophet Mohammed, which doesn't pass the test of a prophet that Moses laid down. They acknowedge Jesus but then reject Him anyway.
2) God told us to bless the descendants of Abraham and that would include both Israel and Arabs. We are after all supposed to love everyone the way He does.
3) God loves Israel. Jesus wept over the coming destruction of Jerusalem. God honored Israel by having Jesus come through the Davidic line. And it's clear from Exekiel and Revelations that God is not through with Israel yet. Although there is still more judgement coming your way too.
4) The scriptures in Exekiel of God's judgement on the nations which divide Israel are certainly cause for concern. As well as the promise to Israel that the land would be yours for all time.
We support Israel, whether or not Israel deserves it, because we seek to honor God and do as He commands.
It contains many surrahs that call for the death of "infidels". The only thing worse than an "infidel" (one who rejects Islam) is a Muslim hypocrite (a Muslim who does not follow the teachings of the Koran - or violates them - hmmmmm, would this be the so-called "moderate" Muslims?...or a Muslim who rejects the Koran).
What kind of religion, other than a cult, states that anyone who rejects Islam should be put to death? Because that's the penalty for any Muslim who leaves the faith. They are to be put to death, according to Muslim Shari'a Law.
What the New York courts have to say about it is irrelevant outside of NY. And a 110-year-old ruling is almost certainly also irrelevant in NY in the face of subsequent Supreme Court cases.
Islam is a religion whose 'holy book', the Koran, teaches violence and hatred against Christians and Jews, (specifically). While there are definately many Muslims who prefer peace to violence, their very religion encourages them to violence against those who will not convert. Islam kills Christians in the Sudan, Indonesia, Somalia, Rwanda, the Philippines, the U.S. and elsewhere. Islam kills Jews in Israel and in embassies abroad. Islam kills Buddhists in Afghanstan and it murders Hindus in Kashmir. In Rwanda there are programs going on to buy back Christian slaves who were captured and brutalized by Muslims. Where there aren't many Christians, Jews, Hindus or Buddhists to kill, Islamists kill each other, (Afghanistan, Pakistan, Iran-Iraq, Turkey-Kurdistan, etc). Islam is evil to the core, and was surely hatched in the sulphery bowels of Hades.
Sounds like something from Mother Goose's Fairy Tales" to me. LOL
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