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Posted on 06/06/2003 4:02:25 PM PDT by 45Auto
The modern beginnings of the 10MM go back to the early 1970's with the creation of the .40 G&A. At the time, there were three semi-auto cartridges of any serious consequences available, the 9MM, the .38 Super, and the .45 ACP. The idea was to come up with a cartridge that combined the best qualities of the 9MM and .45 ACP. With the creation of the new .40 semi-auto cartridge, the statement was made that "...the .40 caliber was chosen because it can be shown mathematically that it takes about this size projectile to provide the cross-sectional area to achieve adequate stopping power at reasonable pistol velocities."
There are any number of experts, men who have first hand knowledge of bullet performance in both hunting and defensive situations, who would dispute that there is any such thing as stopping power. Penetration combined with hitting vital areas seem to be much more important and the .40 G&A would certainly offer excellent penetration capabilities by combining the speed of the 9MM with the bullet weight of the .45 ACP. The larger the caliber, the better the chance of hitting vital areas. The .40, while not as good as the .45 in this respect, is certainly better than the 9mm, speaking strictly from the standpoint of the cross sectional area offered by each cartridge.
The .40 G&A was wildcatted using cut down .224 Weatherby brass and 180 grain .38-40 bullets. Chambered in a Browning Hi-Power, maximum velocities were right at 1250 feet per second. The .40 G&A went nowhere but it opened the doors for the 10MM.
Now enters the Bren Ten. In 1984, Jeff Cooper put his stamp of approval on a new semi-automatic from Dornaus & Dixon, the offspring combining some of the best features of the Czech made CZ-75 9mm with the distinct advantage of a larger hole in the barrel. The amazing thing is that Chairman Jeff took to heart a semi-auto that was not chambered in .45 ACP and was a double action semi-automatic. The new caliber was the 10mm, and the new semi-auto, while a double action, could be carried cocked-and-locked.
Cooper named the new handgun the Bren Ten, BR for the BRNO factory in Czechoslovakia and EN for the British Enfield factory. Bren Ten made a catchy name for the new 10mm. Unfortunately, the name still exists and the Bren Ten itself is no more. By 1987, Dornaus & Dixon had gone into bankruptcy.
The gun died, but the cartridge did not. Colt rescued it by chambering the Government Model, renamed the Delta Elite, and 10mm handguns have been available from Springfield Armory, IAI, LAR, Thompson/Center, Glock, Smith & Wesson with the 1006 and 1016. I can think of no other instance in history whereby the original handgun died so quickly, and yet the cartridge lived on in so many persuasions most of which are now also gone.
Loading the 10mm proved to be sufficiently easy with the use of RCBS Carbide dies. I always like to leave about one-sixteenth of an inch of the shoulder of any semi-auto bullet exposed. This works with some bullets in the Colt 10mm but loads for the Javelina must be seated with the shoulder flush with the case mouth.
Four jacketed bullets were shot extensively in the Colt and Javelina 10mms. Those bullets were Sierra's 150 and 180 grain jacketed hollow cavities, Speer's 190 FMJ, and Hornady's 200 grain FMJ. A fifth jacketed bullet, Hornady's 170 grain jacketed hollow point was used in the Javelina alone.
The 10mm proves to be quite fussy about the jacketed bullets and load combinations it is being fed. The Speer 190 would not group at all with either of the Colts with any of the loads tried. Switching to the Javelina, the same Speer 190 would shoot into less than two inches with the right load. I called Speer and they related that they too had had problems in the Colt Delta Elite and others have related that the Delta Elite is no great shakes accuracy-wise with any loads tried. Both Colt Delta Elites I used for testing the 10mm had been worked over with slide tightening, trigger jobs, etc, but had stock barrels.
Many jacketed loads proved to be exceptionally accurate in the Colt Delta Elites and the Javelina with many loads grouping under two inches or less at 25 yards when fired using the Outer's Pistol Perch as a rest. A sandbag is placed in the barrel notch of the perch and another is placed on the platform that serves as a hand rest. This proved to be the best way of using the Pistol Perch for accuracy testing.
Some excellent loads surfaced as the testing progressed. With jacketed bullets in the 180 to 200 grain category, 10.5 grains of AA#7 gave velocities in the 1100+ fps range and consistently grouped in two inches or less with both the Delta Elites and the Javelina. This same load gave the same excellent results with the RCBS #10mm-200 cast bullet in the Colt Delta Elites. Groups ran in the one and one-half inch range with velocities at 1200 feet per second. Switching to the Javelina, 11.0 grains of AA#7 gives 1281 feet per second and groups right at one-inch. An excellent practice or competition load for the 10mm with the RCBS cast bullet proved to be 5.5 grains of WW231. This load goes 1000 fps from the five-inch barrel of the Delta Elite and 1075 fps from the seven-inch barrel of the Javelina. Accuracy is so good, I would search no more. This load makes major with plenty to spare, is easy to handle and consistently groups under one and one-half inches. For a lighter cast bullet, I use the Bull-X 175 grain semi-wadcutter. The same 5.5 grains of WW231 gives velocities of 1050 in the Delta Elites and 1100 in the Javelina. Easy shooting and easily makes major for action shooting competition.
Is the 10mm a hunting pistol? With qualifications, yes it is . The qualifications are the proper ammunition and especially discretion. Pushed to the limit, the 10mm is better than the .357 Magnum but still quite a bit below the .41 Magnum. I have been using the 170 Hornady Jacketed Hollow Point and have developed a warm load of 13.0 grains of AA#7 for 1374 feet per second from the seven-inch Javelina. This should do the job on small deer without any problem. This load should also be worked up to carefully starting at around 11.0 grains.
Now that is great, you can BET I will use that in my book!!!!!
Glad to have made that small contribution; a few others are helpfully offered to go with it, should you require them
I didn't find any of the pics of feds with the things during the *Condition Orange* alerts in D.C., but a pic of an MP5/10 being carried slung by one of the FBI blackshirts searching for Eric Rudolph's hideout in North Carolina can be seen in the 09 June 2003 issue of Newsweak on page 35. The pic doesn't turn up in the online edition.
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Fairly modern, compared to the old greasegun I got into one of my first shootemups with. They make a poor rifle substitute.
I hope the orcs in your novel meet up with a crabby old leftover troop with one of Gordy Ingram's finest in his hot little hands. They will do the job just fine.
I see that John Ross' second effort will be coming out sometime next year as well. I hope your efforts don't directly compete with each other.
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I don't believe the two of you will be direct competition for each other, and I'd want to read and keep both offerings in any event. And his methods of distribution are sufficiently unique that neither of you should face any overload of the marketplace in that aspect either.
There's an interesting *new media* review aborning which is going to be suffering the distraction of having me for a staff movie reviewer and columnist, it seems, to hit the public awareness on or about 04 July 2003. I'd be glad to give your novel a plug and review there if you'd like, and if you'd like to check the site out in advance, that can be made to happen pretty easily. But there'll be a good deal more to it than *just* the website....
And if you've not seen the website that John Ross maintains, that too should be required homework for you.
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I have gone through J.R.'s website, do you know when he is going to the printer?
World Media Magazine website here; that'll give you some idea.
I have gone through J.R.'s website, do you know when he is going to the printer?
Sometime in 1994, or so he's said. But he's had health problems of late, so a delay is not out of the question.
BTW, if you need a name for a character of a grizzled, hardcore former soldier for this or some later work, and feel like slipping in an inside joke or two, *here's a possibility for you to consider.*
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World Media Magazine website here; that'll give you some idea.
I have gone through J.R.'s website, do you know when he is going to the printer?
Sometime in 1994, or so he's said. But he's had health problems of late, so a delay is not out of the question.
BTW, if you need a name for a character of a grizzled, hardcore former soldier for this or some later work, and feel like slipping in an inside joke or two, *here's a possibility for you to consider.*
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Watch out for the gorillas overhead throwing coconuts....
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Gordon Ingram passed away a few months back, and though I wasn't able to attend his services, I happened to be on a range with one of the products of his inventive mind, and near the time he'd have been being lowered into his final resting place, I let off a 21-round salute of my own in his memory. Seemed appropriate.
No suppressor, of course, though the Sionics can originally usually found on the front of the M10 and M11 Ingram guns was really more of a Mitch Werbel development than Gordons.
The derivitive M11/9 guns are okay too, [particularly the nifty new sidecocking versions] and a couple of Texas pals of mine make a living selling and demonstrating the things. If you ever escape your Kalifornia environs to a more civilized spot, we'll have you fixed right up.
Brrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrppppp!
Actually, the bolt carriers are the same, but the locking pieces are different.
Me too.
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