[Hodar]

What is unreasonable is for you to assert some right which does not exist.

I think you are missing a key fact. The champions of the Smoke Ban in Austin are band members and waitstaff.

As a customer, I agree with you 100%. I have a choice on what resturant/bar I go to. I am free to go in, or leave. My choice.

However, the waitstaff and band does not. This is their job, they have no choice but to go to work. They are claiming the same protection at the bar, as is given 'at the office'. From THEIR perspective, I think they are correct. My argument has been (and continues to be, in this instance) from the waitstaff's point of view.

[Protagoras]

The employees have no rights which you do not have. Despite your incorrect assertion that they "must" work there.

The employees can choose to work elsewhere. That is the key fact that you are missing/purposly ignoring.

[Gabz]

My argument has been (and continues to be, in this instance) from the waitstaff's point of view.

But you are ignoring the view point of the waitstaff that chooses to smoke.

As to office workers, many places still permit smoking in private offices or designated smoking lounges in order to accomodate both.

When Delaware instituted it's smoking ban that right was taken away from not only the employees but the business owners as well.

[Proud_texan]

"The champions of the Smoke Ban in Austin are band members and waitstaff."

Hardly conclusive but all the interviews I've seen of workers said they'd rather not see the ban, they're much more concerned about patrons that "refund" on them after popping a dozen dollar jello shots.

Of course it is Austin, the only city (as far as I know) that provides city funded, no questions asked, on the spot abortions. Of course is you exist outside of the womb you're to be protected. Don't ride a bike without a helmet in Austin.

Lesee now. If you're not born yet the city will pay to suck your brains out but if you're born and ride a bike they don't want you to bump your head. Yep, makes perfect sense to me.

And of course, if smoking is really that dangerous they should just make it illegal. I assume that it's illegal to go into a restaurant and spray DDT on workers. If smoke is all that toxic make it illegal and stop restricting what legal activities people can perform on private property.

Of course it's not toxic, some nanny state types don't approve, it's just, well, you know, so common and underclass, so, well, *redneck* and not at all compatible with crystals and Birkenstocks. Pit hair, piercings and tatoos good. Smoking and the Broken Spoke, bad.

Anybody doubts that's what this is really about, well, ya don't know Austin and the mush heads, uh, students at UT get elected every year.