[Hodar]

We agree that the chemicals released in smoke are not healthy. We do disagree on the levels of how toxic they are, I think SHS is bad; you do not.

However, can you think of any reasons why everyone should be forced to expose themselves to chemicals (at any level) that are known to be harmful, other than the convenience of the minority who enjoy using them? That is what the entire discussion boils down to. You want to fill the air with harmful chemicals (at levels YOU feel are safe) despite the majority's wish not to be exposed.

[Protagoras]

That is what the entire discussion boils down to. You want to fill the air with harmful chemicals (at levels YOU feel are safe) despite the majority's wish not to be exposed.

Incorrect. The entire argument boils down to people like you asserting that they have rights which do not exist. Like the right to force people to do what you want them to do on their own property. That is the crux, and "conservatives" like you are fascists on the issue.

[Just another Joe]

You want to fill the air with harmful chemicals (at levels YOU feel are safe) despite the majority's wish not to be exposed.

Putting words in my mouth won't work.

I want a business owner to be able to decide whether or not to allow a legal activity to be engaged upon in their business unless, and if, it is scientifically shown that this activity harms a significant minority of the general public.

[Gabz]

However, can you think of any reasons why everyone should be forced to expose themselves to chemicals (at any level) that are known to be harmful, other than the convenience of the minority who enjoy using them? That is what the entire discussion boils down to. You want to fill the air with harmful chemicals (at levels YOU feel are safe) despite the majority's wish not to be exposed.

I hate to tell you - but the air inside of a smoke-free venue is only as clean as the air outside the door and every time that door is openned far more harmful substances enter the building.

Think car exhaust..........for example.

Spend an hour in a closed garage with the car running and I will spend an hour in the closed garage next door with a hundred of my smoking friends. We'll discuss it in an hour.

And most bars and restaurants probably have better ventilation systems than the garage.