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Boy, 12, arrested with gun at school
Tri-City Herald ^ | 14 MAY 03 | Tri City Herald Staff

Posted on 06/06/2003 8:53:27 AM PDT by tomakaze

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To: EggsAckley
I know for a fact some do. The guy who lived behind me had one big as a 44 and was shooting it (in the direction of my house at bottles he lined up on my fence) so it got my attention. Sounded like a .22, but the handgun was big for a pellet gun.
21 posted on 06/06/2003 9:28:57 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: tomakaze
......I skipped some school in my day to hunt pheasant with a (gasp!) shotgun, and no doubt there are other folks in this forum who've done the same......

Yep! Did it myself a few times in my day......

22 posted on 06/06/2003 9:29:52 AM PDT by Fiddlstix (http://www.ourgangnet.net)
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To: RogueIsland
re:Why do I have to read practically to the end of the article to find out it was a fricking pellet gun. Man, are we an emasculated nation or what?
 
That's exactly what I was thinking when I stumbled on it (but I posted the article exactly as printed in the paper for accuracy).
I'm just hoping there's a freeper in prosser who's got more news about how this is panning out.
23 posted on 06/06/2003 9:31:12 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
"I mentioned that. It's pretty much a non-issue as far as I'm concerned (who hasn't skipped school to hunt or plink birds? I knew town kids who skipped for less wholesome reasons at that age), and dont excuse any of this overreactive crap on behalf of the government."

I must have been a real goody-goody. I never skipped school and never lied about being sick to get out of it. And if my kids ever do it they'll be in big trouble. I don't consider this a non-issue at all. It's lying, pure and simple. Are you advocating kids lying to their parents??
24 posted on 06/06/2003 9:33:29 AM PDT by kegler4
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To: El Laton Caliente
I'd rather have the kid held back than dead. You are blaming the school for the parent's irresponsiblity. It's the parents' responsibility to make sure their children are in school. And if I were a teacher and I saw some kid outside with a gun you can bet I would call the police and lock down the school. That's has been one of the main problems with schools for the past forty years. Parents drop off their kids and expect the teachers to not only teach but to RAISE the children. People are having children that they fail, fail, fail to discipline and help with their education. It is not the schools' job to teach children resonsibility and morality. IT IS THE PARENTS' RESPONSIBILITY! If you don't like the system then homeschool like alot of people are doing. That's what I plan to do.
25 posted on 06/06/2003 9:44:14 AM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: kegler4
re:I must have been a real goody-goody. I never skipped school and never lied about being sick to get out of it.
Bully for you. I never had to lie to ditch, I just did it, and as long as my grades where in the 90's it wasnt an issue.
 
And if my kids ever do it they'll be in big trouble.
 
I'm with you on that one.
 
I don't consider this a non-issue at all. It's lying, pure and simple. Are you advocating kids lying to their parents??
Yes that's exactly what, to the exclusion of all else. I am "advocating" [/sarcasm]
On the scale of things here I'm more concerned with the government overreacting, and *misapplying the law* (a pellet gun is not a fire arm), and the general emsaculation of the the country crap like this is a symptom of, than I am about some internal family discipline matter.
26 posted on 06/06/2003 10:04:30 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: El Laton Caliente
Funny, I thought some on here are blaming the school - teachers - for not identifying the gun as being low caliber (pellet - harmless in some regards). Maybe they need further educating on guns so they can effectivley monitor children better, since obviously parents don't care. Is that what you want? Sounds like bigger Govt and more Govt control if you ask me.

Is it too much to ask that parents raise their children instead of defaulting to the schools?

27 posted on 06/06/2003 10:07:44 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: kellynla
re:It's the parents' responsibility to make sure their children are in school.
 
It's a parents obligation to see to the education of their kids. Some delegate it- fob it off on the goverment and run their kids through the brainwashing centers called public schools, with all that entails - others, who care about their kids, and what kind of people they'll be when they grow up, make the domestic sacrifices neccesary to take care of that obligation themselves.
28 posted on 06/06/2003 10:09:32 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
Not sure about the law there, but here in this County, air powered weapons (co2, pump, etc) fall under the firearm category even if they are pellet or BB's.
29 posted on 06/06/2003 10:09:40 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: RedBloodedAmerican
re: Not sure about the law there, but here in this County
 
where you at Red? (i'm too lazy to look up your profile lol)
It wouldn't surprize me if they snaked something similar to that through around here at some point.
30 posted on 06/06/2003 10:11:53 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: kellynla
re:If you don't like the system then homeschool like alot of people are doing. That's what I plan to do
 
Amen to that sistah! :-)
31 posted on 06/06/2003 10:13:27 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
Volusia County, Florida. You can't even fire a slingshot in city limits (but I do anyhow). Killed a 24" coral snake in my yard Monday. We killed a cottonmouth at a friends house a few weeks ago. Sometimes you have to shoot!
32 posted on 06/06/2003 10:15:03 AM PDT by RedBloodedAmerican
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To: joesnuffy
"During deer hunting season..kids brought their rifles to school ..heck..we even got out of school early for deer hunting.. "

My father-in-law grew up west of Austin, Texas. He tells me the same thing. They took their hunging rifles to school when they were as young as 12 because they would go deer hunting after school. Of course this was over 50 years ago.
33 posted on 06/06/2003 10:17:05 AM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: tomakaze
"sistah?" Sorry but I have the wrong plumbing to be a "sistah"...ya might want to read my tagline...
34 posted on 06/06/2003 10:19:31 AM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: kellynla
re:"sistah?" Sorry but I have the wrong plumbing to be a "sistah"...ya might want to read my tagline...
 
hahahahahahaha - my bad. I was reading a peice of mail when I responded and got my people crossed.
35 posted on 06/06/2003 10:25:12 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: kellynla
...and just to show where my heads at right now I been bumbling around the house for the last 30 minutes looking for my copenhagen.
It eventually turned up in the front pocket of the shirt i'm wearing.
36 posted on 06/06/2003 10:29:40 AM PDT by tomakaze
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To: tomakaze
"Yes that's exactly what, to the exclusion of all else. I am "advocating" [/sarcasm]"

Hey, you're the one who said that part of it was no big deal. Maybe "advocating" lying wasn't the right word, though. How about condoning?

In the area where I live police were recently called when a man was seen carrying what turned out to be a gun in a field next to a high school. He was caught and arrested and it appears from all evdience he was indeed looking for somebody inside the school. Should the police not have been called so as not to "emasculate" our society? He wasn't on school property and had not overtly threatened anybody.

Paranoid about the above event, officials at another school a couple of weeks later called police when they saw a man walking in front of the school carrying what appeared to be a gun. It turned out it was a pellet gun or something similar. He was still taken in and questioned, but I don't think was ever charged with anything.

A couple of weeks later two teachers at my daughter's school reported what they thought were gunshots in the woods behind the school -- woods on a hill that overlook many classroom windows. Those rooms were cleared and police searched the woods, finding nothing.

Police in your incident seem to have overreacted, but by golly I'm glad they overreacted in the case at my daughter's school and in the first case I named. There are a lot of nuts out there.
37 posted on 06/06/2003 10:34:10 AM PDT by kegler4
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To: tomakaze
Now you know why God put your balls in a bag...ROFLMAO
38 posted on 06/06/2003 10:37:47 AM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: Fiddlstix
Before school sickness at 7:30 am.

Duck hunting by 10:30 am, I remmeber "suffering" from that sickness.

A miracle cure, nope just my first stumbling steps into the world of excuses for missing school, work, meetings, dinners at the in-laws, workshops, boring events of many types or _______. The list is long, the reader can fill in the blanks or just say all of the above and more.

Thank Heaven so far I have never been placed in the dilemma of the best duck ponds, fly fishing, skeet fields, squirrel hunting or __________, being located next to the school, church, office or ________.

When it happens, sub sonic shot shells, a little old lady disguse, pellet gun, bow & arrow or _________, should solve that problem nicely.

"My health is always better in November" by Havilah Babcock. A great reference book! .

39 posted on 06/06/2003 11:00:23 AM PDT by TYVets ("An armed society is a polite society." - Robert A. Heinlien & me)
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To: Onelifetogive
"This is verification that our emergency practices work just like they are supposed to."

What emergency??? Some kid with a pellet gun making no attempt to run into the school? Had it been Klebold and Harris, those kids in their classrooms would make great targets. I hope they don't hurt themselves as they pat themselves on the back for their response to a non-emergency.
40 posted on 06/06/2003 12:14:51 PM PDT by karatemom
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