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Police approve Mexican ID cards
The Fresno Bee ^ | June 6, 2003 | Louis Galvan

Posted on 06/06/2003 6:06:28 AM PDT by runningbear

Police approve Mexican ID cards

Police approve Mexican ID cards
Fresno officials hope decision will improve link with crime victims.

By Louis Galvan
The Fresno Bee
(Published Friday, June 6, 2003, 5:35 AM)

Fresno police now will accept a Mexican national identification card from Mexican citizens who come into contact with officers.

Police Chief Jerry Dyer and Mexican Consul Jaime Paz y Puente took turns Thursday endorsing a "memorandum of understanding" between the two agencies.

They called the agreement, a year in the making, a major step toward better communication with Mexican nationals -- especially crime victims.

Two days ago, the Fresno City Council voted 7-0 to urge acceptance of the matricula consular cards and to support AB 522, which would allow the cards to be used for city and county services.

In February, Fresno County Sheriff Richard Pierce said his department would begin formally recognizing the cards.

The Fresno County Board of Supervisors also adopted a resolution urging county and city agencies, and businesses within the county, to accept the identification.

Dyer said a number of other counties and cities throughout the country recognize the matricula cards, including San Francisco, Los Angeles, Sacramento and Santa Ana.

Among other cities in the Valley that now accept the cards are Orange Cove and Parlier.

The Mexican government has issued the card since 1871 as an official identification card for all Mexican citizens who travel outside their country.

The cards are issued by each Mexican consulate after seeing:

Proof of identity.

A birth certificate.

Military service records.

Passports.

Proof of residency.

For years, however, few people sought to obtain the card.

That changed in 2001 when the Mexican consulates began pushing it, saying they were spurred by banks seeking new customers and the need to provide proper identification after the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks.

Paz y Puente said more than

1 million of the cards were issued last year to Mexican nationals in this country.

And, he said, since June of last year, about 75,000 cards have been issued in the eight Central California counties that his office serves.

"That's about 200 to 300 cards each day," he said.

Dyer said that by accepting the card as a valid form of identification, officers in misdemeanor cases will be able to confirm a suspect's identity in the field, instead of transporting the suspect to headquarters to be photographed and fingerprinted before being turned loose, a task that takes about two hours.

Dyer also said he believes the level of trust and cooperation from Mexican nationals will be enhanced by the department's acceptance of the cards, making it easier for police to tackle crimes targeting Mexican nationals......

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: idcards
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so much fraud..
1 posted on 06/06/2003 6:06:29 AM PDT by runningbear
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To: jdontom
latest on ID cards from Fresno.....
2 posted on 06/06/2003 6:06:51 AM PDT by runningbear (Lurkers beware, Freeping is public opinions based on facts, theories, and news online.......)
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To: runningbear
OH COME ON!!!!!!!!!!

The Inmates are now running the asylum.

3 posted on 06/06/2003 6:08:45 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: runningbear
"Police Chief Jerry Dyer and Mexican Consul Jaime Paz y Puente took turns Thursday endorsing a "memorandum of understanding" between the two agencies."

Not that it would make much difference but I thought foreign relations and agreements were a fedgov function.
4 posted on 06/06/2003 6:10:50 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: runningbear
Bag 'em, Tag 'em and Send 'em back to Mejico.
5 posted on 06/06/2003 6:10:56 AM PDT by StatesEnemy
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To: runningbear
Dyer said that by accepting the card as a valid form of identification, officers in misdemeanor cases will be able to confirm a suspect's identity in the field, instead of transporting the suspect to headquarters to be photographed and fingerprinted before being turned loose, a task that takes about two hours.

OK 1st off this,valid form of identification , Says who? It sure is not proof the citizenship.

2nd, how about just taking them to the INS for deportation instead of turning them loose.

6 posted on 06/06/2003 6:16:34 AM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: runningbear

7 posted on 06/06/2003 6:17:44 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: runningbear
we are gonna trust the corrupt mexican govt to OK IDs...then accept them as being true???
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Why dont we just put out a big neon "welcome terrorists" sign
Homieland Security ...keep nailing those blue hairs and searching the artifical limbs of US war heros...
Meanwhile the terrs just walk on by
8 posted on 06/06/2003 6:28:09 AM PDT by joesnuffy (Moderate Islam Is For Dilettantes)
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To: Puppage
We're giving up our sovereignty but what is the reason?
9 posted on 06/06/2003 6:28:55 AM PDT by FITZ
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To: FITZ
We're giving up our sovereignty but what is the reason?

Why, to please the minority voting populace of course.

10 posted on 06/06/2003 6:32:49 AM PDT by Puppage (You may disagree with what I have to say, but I will defend to your death my right to say it)
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To: runningbear
The cards are issued by each Mexican consulate after seeing:
Proof of identity.
A birth certificate.
Military service records.
Passports.
Proof of residency.
For years, however, few people sought to obtain the card.

Total line of B$ .... no illegal alien is going to get that well documented. Of course, considering the corruption factor in Mexico these would be a EXCELLENT way for someone that can speak spanish to gain a second ID for the purposes of starting a new life. You just have to bribe the right people.

11 posted on 06/06/2003 6:41:22 AM PDT by Centurion2000 (We are crushing our enemies, seeing him driven before us and hearing the lamentations of the liberal)
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To: runningbear
Hidalgo del Norte stink alert, Level "Brown".
12 posted on 06/06/2003 6:42:43 AM PDT by gitmogrunt (fenceline veteran)
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To: FITZ
The reason, GW and the Democrats are in league to form a "New World Order" global govt. There is nothing as dangerous as a true believer, and our betters believe the poppycock of a global nation.
13 posted on 06/06/2003 6:43:02 AM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: runningbear
It's becoming pretty obvious at this point that the people are going to have to do what the POS politicians will not. These idiots think they don't have to obey them while we, The American public,do. Time to make these Anti-American's do their jobs.
14 posted on 06/06/2003 7:10:26 AM PDT by JustAnAmerican
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To: Texas_Jarhead
And note the way the article refers to the "two agencies" as if they happen to be co-equal. Oh Sure. The Mexican Consulate is just another American govenment institution, happily passing out orders, making policy for the States. No difference between the two at all.
15 posted on 06/06/2003 7:36:22 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: runningbear
For years, however, few people sought to obtain the card.>>>>>>>>>>>>

And the REASON "few mexicans" have obtained this card for years. ????

Because...very few places IN MEXICO WILL ACCEPT THIS CARD AS A LEGAL I.D. !!!!!

Yet mexico continues to demand the USA to accept it.....ANYONE living in the USA should be identified by the US gov't, just as all US citizens are.

16 posted on 06/06/2003 7:43:24 AM PDT by txdoda ("Navy-brat")
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To: runningbear
The cards are issued by each Mexican consulate after seeing:

Proof of identity.

A birth certificate.

Military service records.

Passports.

Proof of residency.

For years, however, few people sought to obtain the card.

...Or a $50 dollar bribe. This totally screws up all the plans put into place to secure the Mexican border.

The fact that no 'human rights' activists are protesting this proves it's a terrible idea.

17 posted on 06/06/2003 7:51:30 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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To: runningbear
"Police Chief Jerry Dyer and Mexican Consul Jaime Paz y Puente took turns Thursday endorsing a "memorandum of understanding" between the two agencies."

Since when can anyone but Congress approve a treaty?
18 posted on 06/06/2003 8:16:11 AM PDT by PatrioticAmerican (If the only way an American can get elected is through Mexican votes, we have a war to be waged.)
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To: runningbear
In February, Fresno County Sheriff Richard Pierce said his department would begin formally recognizing the cards.


I guess the Sheriff is now FORMALLY violating Homeland Security and Immigration laws. Where are the Fed's when ya need them?
19 posted on 06/06/2003 8:25:30 AM PDT by Terridan (God, help us deliver these Islamic savage animals BACK into hell where they belong...)
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To: jeremiah
"The reason, GW and the Democrats are in league to form a 'New World Order' global govt."

Of joy, the '04 election cycle is truly opun us now. The 'New World Order' crowd is back, to lie and give us another Clintonista in the White House.

Clinton's Third Way is the New World Order, If you believe that either GW or his father are a part of it, you know nothing of the members. With the exception of about three, Clinton's Third Way buddies have done nothing but obstruct, rumormonger and outright lie in order to destroy GW as they did his father.

GW AND his father are innocent of that charge, and I'm not letting the left or their third party, useful idiots, get away with it again.

20 posted on 06/06/2003 8:30:47 AM PDT by cake_crumb (UN Resolutions=Very Expensive, Very SCRATCHY Toilet Paper)
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